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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #105 on: October 11, 2009, 10:31:58 PM »

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Funny, I realized today that Lester Hudson has gotten more burn than JR Giddens did all last year (preseason) and this year combined after only 3 preseason games. What has he done to get Danny/Doc's attention? He has already been complimented by several of the veteran players without any prompting during inerviews. This kid is catching someones eye in practice and is earning some court time. He clearly is doing something right so far.

Too early to get overly excited, but still fun to watch. I wonder how much time he will see against the Cavaliers? That could be telling.....

Against the Cavs?  No time at all.  The Cavs game is going to be like a playoff game, both clubs very serious about making an early statement.  Barring major injuries to either team, we're going to see them in the playoffs.

Don't see the 4th preseason game having a playoff feel.

I think the truth will be somewhere in between. Probably the first half will be somewhat 'serious' and then both teams will look to the bench to figure a few things out in the 2nd half. How deep they go and how early, will be what I want to watch.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2009, 10:34:18 PM »

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Funny, I realized today that Lester Hudson has gotten more burn than JR Giddens did all last year (preseason) and this year combined after only 3 preseason games. What has he done to get Danny/Doc's attention? He has already been complimented by several of the veteran players without any prompting during inerviews. This kid is catching someones eye in practice and is earning some court time. He clearly is doing something right so far.

Too early to get overly excited, but still fun to watch. I wonder how much time he will see against the Cavaliers? That could be telling.....

Against the Cavs?  No time at all.  The Cavs game is going to be like a playoff game, both clubs very serious about making an early statement.  Barring major injuries to either team, we're going to see them in the playoffs.

Don't see the 4th preseason game having a playoff feel.

I think the truth will be somewhere in between. Probably the first half will be somewhat 'serious' and then both teams will look to the bench to figure a few things out in the 2nd half. How deep they go and how early, will be what I want to watch.

I just don't see Doc as the kind of coach who will looking to make a statement in a preseason game, especially with KG's rehab.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #107 on: October 11, 2009, 10:55:31 PM »

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I have been pleasantly surprised by Hudson like the majority of us, but the "keeper" talk is silly because he most likely will not see the light of day in the regular season.

That said, I have been almost shocked at how little "rookie treatment" he's been getting from the refs so far, given his defensive tenacity (knock on wood...).  I remember Pruitt's rookie year, especially in the preseason, he would get phantom calls against him left and right.

Time will tell, I suppose.  I'd still feel better if we had a veteran backup legitimate PG.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2009, 11:03:06 PM »

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Funny, I realized today that Lester Hudson has gotten more burn than JR Giddens did all last year (preseason) and this year combined after only 3 preseason games. What has he done to get Danny/Doc's attention? He has already been complimented by several of the veteran players without any prompting during inerviews. This kid is catching someones eye in practice and is earning some court time. He clearly is doing something right so far.

Too early to get overly excited, but still fun to watch. I wonder how much time he will see against the Cavaliers? That could be telling.....

Against the Cavs?  No time at all.  The Cavs game is going to be like a playoff game, both clubs very serious about making an early statement.  Barring major injuries to either team, we're going to see them in the playoffs.

Don't see the 4th preseason game having a playoff feel.

Oh, my mistake - I thought he meant the season opener.  I totally agree, they wouldn't make a huge deal out of a preseason game, although I do think they'll take it more seriously than some of the others.  I think we can agree Lester isn't going to play in the season opener.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2009, 11:08:37 PM »

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Funny, I realized today that Lester Hudson has gotten more burn than JR Giddens did all last year (preseason) and this year combined after only 3 preseason games. What has he done to get Danny/Doc's attention? He has already been complimented by several of the veteran players without any prompting during inerviews. This kid is catching someones eye in practice and is earning some court time. He clearly is doing something right so far.

Too early to get overly excited, but still fun to watch. I wonder how much time he will see against the Cavaliers? That could be telling.....

Against the Cavs?  No time at all.  The Cavs game is going to be like a playoff game, both clubs very serious about making an early statement.  Barring major injuries to either team, we're going to see them in the playoffs.

Don't see the 4th preseason game having a playoff feel.

Oh, my mistake - I thought he meant the season opener.  I totally agree, they wouldn't make a huge deal out of a preseason game, although I do think they'll take it more seriously than some of the others.  I think we can agree Lester isn't going to play in the season opener.

Nope, that was my mistake.  The way it was phrased I thought he was talking about a preseason game, but I guess I should have checked the schedule first. 

That being the case - yes, it will be a playoff atmosphere, and no Lester will not likely see much (if any) quality time.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2009, 09:17:00 PM »

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Well I stayed out of this as long as I could.
I just don't understand why someones opinion would be labeled SILLY.
It is painfully obvious that some of us have much better insight than others when evaluating players.
Just because someone gets over optimistic by your standards, does not make it Silly.
I have been on these threads for years and I can tell you one thing, those that post the most are not nessairly more knowledgeable about anything.
Then there are the guys that everyone bows to when they speak as if they were some BBall god or something.
I don't like Tommys points anyway.
Why in the hell would you give a tommy point for hustle, you make sick money for playing a game, you should be expected to play hard.
I would give them for smart plays.
On this board someone who knows nothing about this sport can get them just by being funny, or stupid, once again I would not give these, I would give them for good info, and good insight.
This thread was about Him being a keeper, you either agree or not, but to make the statment that it is silly is out of line, as the poster just might have more insight than you do.I have only seen clips of him playing college Ball, so I am on the fence, but with his skillset, and intangables with a smooth stroke the kid ought to be given time before we call people silly.
Orion Greene was cross eyed, and so to expect him to eventualy be a good shooter was a wish and a prayer. Wich it to bad as he had a good body and dedication to the game, but without the shot you can't develope the rest of your game properly and become one dimentional.The line about his quad double only being against lower lever competition, everyone that has ever played in these schools weree on the floor and could of done this against lower com, but none did until this little man.
* rebounds a game is sick for a 6 foot guard, and to do it for consecutive seasons means it was not a fluke. 45% shooting while scoring 26 plus a game is a fantastic percentage, for a guy that shoots the 3ball.
I am now going to sign up for the league pass so I can see him in person and throw my last cent in this pool.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2009, 09:50:01 PM »

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I have been pleasantly surprised by Hudson like the majority of us, but the "keeper" talk is silly because he most likely will not see the light of day in the regular season.

That said, I have been almost shocked at how little "rookie treatment" he's been getting from the refs so far, given his defensive tenacity (knock on wood...).  I remember Pruitt's rookie year, especially in the preseason, he would get phantom calls against him left and right.

Time will tell, I suppose.  I'd still feel better if we had a veteran backup legitimate PG.

Marquis can handle the ball, score, and defend better than any backup pg we could go to.

ALSO: if all this "keeper" talk is so silly then why did Hudson get time with the second unit while JR, and TA sat until the very end of the game.

Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2009, 10:10:58 PM »

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Oh, my mistake - I thought he meant the season opener.  I totally agree, they wouldn't make a huge deal out of a preseason game, although I do think they'll take it more seriously than some of the others.  I think we can agree Lester isn't going to play in the season opener.


For the sake of clarity, I meant the next preseason game which is I believe against the Cavaliers on Wednesday. Sorry for the confusion. :)

Certainly some (including players, Media, Bloggers, and Fans) will attach a playoff preview type of spin to the outcome of this game. I am trying to avoid it, but the temptation is still there.

I really am excited about seeing our new bench additions and hopefully Hudson play against them. I would like to see how he handles Delonte in particular but that probably wont happen this time around.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2009, 10:14:23 PM »

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ALSO: if all this "keeper" talk is so silly then why did Hudson get time with the second unit while JR, and TA sat until the very end of the game.
Because TA is still injured. Hudson will be behind a healthy TA in the depth chart.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2009, 10:23:32 PM »

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Wow.  So the lurkers come out of the woodwork at the word "silly"?  I actually already posted earlier in the thread, and I had more to my post than the word "silly". 

I was not labeling anyone's opinion.  Instead, I was trying to make the point that unless he's on some worldbeater status, which he isn't, he will most likely never play in the regular season and be off the team the subsequent year.

Like I said, time will tell.  Please grow some thicker skin, people.

XmgX is no lurker - but to rebuke your post.  PP can score, handle the ball, and defend better than other backup PGs too - that doesn't mean he should be the backup PG.  Daniels is a skilled player who, in my opinion, would be more effectively utilized strictly in a wing role.  I'll repeat; it would be nice to have a legitimate veteran backup point guard, not a wing in point-guard's clothing.

Double repeat: Hudson is skilled, pleasantly surprised, but chances are he will not play in the regular season (and if he did, better chances are that he will get rookie treatment and not be able to stay in the game, especially when the real refs come back).

To my initial point - why is there such a focus on (over)analyzing young prospect players on this blog?  We are a *winning* team now.  Developing youth is for losing teams and the NBDL. 

I can't wait for the season to start so we can critique actual basketball played by actual veteran professionals.  We'll see what the lurkers have to say then.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »

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ALSO: if all this "keeper" talk is so silly then why did Hudson get time with the second unit while JR, and TA sat until the very end of the game.
Because TA is still injured. Hudson will be behind a healthy TA in the depth chart.

Also because he's a rookie and it's the preseason.  They know what TA and JR can do.  Not so much with Lester.

He has impressed, but not enough to get actual playing time when it counts.  That was my point.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2009, 10:42:52 PM »

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2 games in a row Doc has used a lineup of Eddie, Marquis, Sheed, Big Baby and Lester for extended minutes and earlier than the scrub minutes.  This says experiment to me--it gives the lineup another ball handler, shooter and solid defender.  In my mind Lester is already ahead of TA (more poise, better ball handler)  and JR (better ball handler and better offense)--I believe Doc will sometimes use this as the 2nd line swapping Lester and Scal depending on the match-up.
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Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2009, 11:26:31 PM »

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2 games in a row Doc has used a lineup of Eddie, Marquis, Sheed, Big Baby and Lester for extended minutes and earlier than the scrub minutes.  This says experiment to me--it gives the lineup another ball handler, shooter and solid defender.  In my mind Lester is already ahead of TA (more poise, better ball handler)  and JR (better ball handler and better offense)--I believe Doc will sometimes use this as the 2nd line swapping Lester and Scal depending on the match-up.

That's how I see it too--as long as Lester keeps developing and delivering apace.

Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2009, 11:37:22 PM »

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  They know what TA and JR can do. 

i dont thing they have an accurate knowledge of what JR can do.  he has been in the d-league and every time he is on a nba floor, he looks too excited and tries too hard to make an impression.  he plays like a rookie bc he is too excited, is impatient, and desperately trying to contribute rather than playing within himself.  they know what he can do against d-league talent and in nba practices, but not games. 

lester has impressed me thus far, but keeping things in perspective, he likely isnt in the "plan" and wont play much at all this season, unless there are extenuating circumstances.

Re: Lester Hudson is a keeper
« Reply #119 on: October 13, 2009, 12:04:40 AM »

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We all know Doc likes having three guards on the floor if he can get away with it.

Since Lester can cover the quicker PG's that Eddie and Marquis have trouble with, he will get some action in those types of match-ups.