2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[JSD]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

[indeedproceed]

1.  Buffalo - Dwight + a well rounded team
2.  Houston - Can Monta adapt and distribute? Yup.
3.  Seattle - Timmy, will bring leadership and experience to his otherwise offensive team.
4.  Dallas - Not sold on Terry at the starting 2 spot but I like this team.
5.  Portland - Solid vet team.
6.  Phoenix - I really like this front court.
7.  Utah - If not for a hole at SG they'd be higher (Dunleavy is hurting bad)
8.  New Orleans - Kobe + high energy guys who want to win = playoffs.
9.  Golden St. - Dear Deng, will you ever remember how to play basketball again?
10. San Antonio - Solid Club. Who scores?
11. Memphis - Can I get the real Memphis instead?
12. Denver - T of A?
11. Sacramento - some nice pieces
13. Minnesota - some nice pieces
15. Las Vegas - T of A?

A) Can you explain why you have Dallas over Portland and Pho? B)why you have Golden State out of the Playoffs?

I will take my answer off the air (while I drive to work)

A - I like Dallas and their high powered transition offense to run and win more games during the regular season. Also, I'm a big fan of Smith and Lee at the 4 and 5. Jason Kidd is still playing at an extremely high level.

B - Deng forgot how to play basketball at a high level, Maggette doesn't play team basketball as good as Nash and Okur don't play D. Who's a "winner" on that team? Where is the playoff experience?

Amare, Nash, Richardson, Shaq. Why didn't Phoenix make the playoffs last year in the real NBA?

The real life Phoenix thing, wasn't it probably because Amare missed 30 games?

Dallas vs Phoenix:

Kidd vs Rondo
Jason Terry vs Roger Mason
Shawn Marion vs Josh Howard
Josh Smith vs Al Jefferson
David Lee vs Andris Biedrins

Dallas major players off the bench:
Al Harrington, Marquis Daniels, Sam Dalembert, Anthony Carter

Phoenix Major Players off the Bench:
Kyle Korver, Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, Nate Robinson

I don't see it, Jsaad. Of course, it is all opinion I guess.

[nickagneta]

For all the owners that are going on and on and on about stars and go to guys, it's fairly obvious to me that you haven't been paying attention to what your beloved Celtics and their front office and coach have been professing for the better part of the last 4 years.

Winning basketball, and when I coached youth ball I said and stressed the same thing, is about rebounding and defense. The Boston Celtics' 17th Banner was built on shutting down the other team and outrebounding the other team. Before KG and Ray Ray got here that's all we heard out of Doc. It's still all we hear out of Doc. How many times after a win did Doc say "Yeah, we won but we have to improve our defense and rebounding. We gave up too much and let them have too many second chances."

Rebounding and defense. Stop looking at your teams as a collection of fantasy stars. I have Tony Parker. Well I have Hedo and Roy. So what!! Can they rebound!! Can they play defense!!

My team had opinions on it vary from being placed everywhere from 5th to 14th. Know why? Because people ignored rebounding and defense. The Boxers are an excellent defensive and rebounding team. That's a winning formula. Every time. Take a look at your NBA history. See where the team's with the highest rebounding margin and best defenses finished every year. It's usually deep in the playoffs.

So before asking why teams like Dallas or Golden State or Sacramento or Memphis are slipping or don't measure up, take a look at that team. Do they have good to great night in and night out rebounders? Do they have a 5 man unit that will be on the floor most of the time that can guard anything better than a chair?

[indeedproceed]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

I just noticed that too. It seems so silly to me to rank Memphis last I wasn't looking for it I guess.

[nickagneta]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

Memphis, and I have said this in this thread and others, will get out rebounded on a nightly basis because they have one decent rebounder on the whole team. For that reason, they will not be a good team.

[indeedproceed]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

Memphis, and I have said this in this thread and others, will get out rebounded on a nightly basis because they have one decent rebounder on the whole team. For that reason, they will not be a good team.

I had them out of the playoffs, but in dead least?

[nickagneta]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

Memphis, and I have said this in this thread and others, will get out rebounded on a nightly basis because they have one decent rebounder on the whole team. For that reason, they will not be a good team.

I had them out of the playoffs, but in dead least?

I had them out of the playoffs and yeah, I could see where someone had them dead last. Where was the outcry, except from me, when the Boxers were placed 14th due to a vendetta? Memphis is not a good team.

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No comments in almost a half an hour? Are you kidding me? Where is the passion, western conference???

[Rondo2287]

Ya Im not gonna lie, for the west supposedly being the , "Stronger Conference," I cant say that im impressed with what we have seen thusfar

[nickagneta]

No comments in almost a half an hour? Are you kidding me? Where is the passion, western conference???

Coffee break at work for everyone.

[Rondo2287]

No comments in almost a half an hour? Are you kidding me? Where is the passion, western conference???

Coffee break AMP break at work for everyone.

Thats how I roll, as unhealthy as it may be

[Roy Hobbs]

Ya Im not gonna lie, for the west supposedly being the , "Stronger Conference," I cant say that im impressed with what we have seen thusfar

In what manner?

I think there are six teams (in no particular order) that could finish in the top-four in the East:  Phoenix, Golden State, Buffalo, Portland, Dallas, and Seattle.  No prediction on who they'd beat out, but I think the conference has a lot of excellent teams.

[Rondo2287]

Ya Im not gonna lie, for the west supposedly being the , "Stronger Conference," I cant say that im impressed with what we have seen thusfar

In what manner?

I think there are six teams (in no particular order) that could finish in the top-four in the East:  Phoenix, Golden State, Buffalo, Portland, Dallas, and Seattle.  No prediction on who they'd beat out, but I think the conference has a lot of excellent teams.

I just meant in overall activity this morning.  Not team talent, I was just agreeing with IP

[Roy Hobbs]

Ya Im not gonna lie, for the west supposedly being the , "Stronger Conference," I cant say that im impressed with what we have seen thusfar

In what manner?

I think there are six teams (in no particular order) that could finish in the top-four in the East:  Phoenix, Golden State, Buffalo, Portland, Dallas, and Seattle.  No prediction on who they'd beat out, but I think the conference has a lot of excellent teams.

I just meant in overall activity this morning.  Not team talent, I was just agreeing with IP

Ah, gotcha.

Well, maybe all the West Coast GMs are still sleeping. 

[nickagneta]

As for the West being stronger, I don't see it that way. I think the West might have 3 of the top 5 teams in the league but their true tough playoff depth is only 6 deep in my opinion whereas I see the East as being 9 deep in playoff teams that could do damage.

After these 6 teams:

1.) Buffalo
2.) Portland
3.) Houston
4.) Seattle
5.) Golden State
6.) Phoenix

I see a bunch of teams that are either older, offensively geared, poor rebounders, poor defenders or soft or young or bad.

Just one GM's opinion, for what it's worth.