2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[Roy Hobbs]

As for the West being stronger, I don't see it that way. I think the West might have 3 of the top 5 teams in the league but their true tough playoff depth is only 6 deep in my opinion whereas I see the East as being 9 deep in playoff teams that could do damage.

After these 6 teams:

1.) Buffalo
2.) Portland
3.) Houston
4.) Seattle
5.) Golden State
6.) Phoenix

I see a bunch of teams that are either older, offensively geared, poor rebounders, poor defenders or soft or young or bad.

Just one GM's opinion, for what it's worth.

Interesting.  You don't think Dallas could keep up with any of the top nine teams in the East?  Is it just their style?  I think they have talent, and they have depth.  I question their fit a little bit, but I think they're very solid.

[Rondo2287]

As for the West being stronger, I don't see it that way. I think the West might have 3 of the top 5 teams in the league but their true tough playoff depth is only 6 deep in my opinion whereas I see the East as being 9 deep in playoff teams that could do damage.

After these 6 teams:

1.) Buffalo
2.) Portland
3.) Houston
4.) Seattle
5.) Golden State
6.) Phoenix

I see a bunch of teams that are either older, offensively geared, poor rebounders, poor defenders or soft or young or bad.

Just one GM's opinion, for what it's worth.

Interesting.  You don't think Dallas could keep up with any of the top nine teams in the East?  Is it just their style?  I think they have talent, and they have depth.  I question their fit a little bit, but I think they're very solid.

I like Dallas, but what he was going for was the real life suns model wasnt it?  The uptempo little defense.  Which we have seen fizzle in the playoffs.  I mean i think he did a superb job building his team around the fast tempo model, im just not sure if im sold on it working deep in the playoffs.

[JSD]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

[indeedproceed]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

Well we're not debating who has a better all-star team, although we could debate that.

[Roy Hobbs]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

I'm not sure that starting all-stars determine which conference is better.  Also, is Nene really the best starting center in the East?  If so, that's a scary thought.

[Roy Hobbs]

As for the West being stronger, I don't see it that way. I think the West might have 3 of the top 5 teams in the league but their true tough playoff depth is only 6 deep in my opinion whereas I see the East as being 9 deep in playoff teams that could do damage.

After these 6 teams:

1.) Buffalo
2.) Portland
3.) Houston
4.) Seattle
5.) Golden State
6.) Phoenix

I see a bunch of teams that are either older, offensively geared, poor rebounders, poor defenders or soft or young or bad.

Just one GM's opinion, for what it's worth.

Interesting.  You don't think Dallas could keep up with any of the top nine teams in the East?  Is it just their style?  I think they have talent, and they have depth.  I question their fit a little bit, but I think they're very solid.

I like Dallas, but what he was going for was the real life suns model wasnt it?  The uptempo little defense.  Which we have seen fizzle in the playoffs.  I mean i think he did a superb job building his team around the fast tempo model, im just not sure if im sold on it working deep in the playoffs.

They're flawed, but I think they're a top-nine team in the East, without question.

In the playoffs, if they're forced to slow down, they can throw out a front line of Dalembert and Lee.  That's not terrible.  In fact, it's probably one of the more physical front lines in the league. 

[JSD]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

I'm not sure that starting all-stars determine which conference is better.  Also, is Nene really the best starting center in the East?  If so, that's a scary thought.

Yes it is, although Nene is pretty darn good. No Center in the east had a better season than him last year.

[Rondo2287]

Ya I know, I do like the Dallas team alot, Im just saying Im always critical of those Uptempo teams in the playoffs due to what we have seen happen.  

[Roy Hobbs]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

I'm not sure that starting all-stars determine which conference is better.  Also, is Nene really the best starting center in the East?  If so, that's a scary thought.

Yes it is, although Nene is pretty darn good. No Center in the east had a better season than him last year.

No disrespect to Nene; if healthy, he's a good player.  He just doesn't scream "all star starter" to me.

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

1 Buffalo
2 Portland
3 Dallas
4 Seattle
5 Phoenix
6 Golden State
7 Utah
8 Houston
9 Memphis
10 Sacramento
11 San Antonio
12 Denver
13 Minnesota
14 Las Vegas
15 New Orleans

I understand voting Seattle ahead of Portland in the division by all means... If I'm being honest I like Portland's depth in a regular season setting, but Seattle matches up REALLY well in a 7 game series with the Crotonats... That's when the Sonics will get them. And they will get them.

Like the Spurs, just get to the playoffs, because I guarantee no one wants to face us in May/June.

[nickagneta]

I'm kinda surprised anyone would.

Kidd and Terry are old and well past their prime and now, very poor defenders. Marion is a headcase and after being taken out of Phoenix has proven to be very mediocre to not good. Josh Smith is another head case who is a great weak side defender but can't defend a chair if it's one on one or if he's being posted. Lee is a garbage man and not a great defender, though very good rebounder. Harrington is a ball hogging player all for himself and not a team player. Daniels and Dalembert and Carter I like but they aren't going to see a lot of minutes on this team

And when things start going wrong the finger pointing will start as the me first personalities that litter this team blow it up from the inside out. Washington, Detroit and Cleveland would all have little trouble beating that Dallas team.

[JSD]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

I'm not sure that starting all-stars determine which conference is better.  Also, is Nene really the best starting center in the East?  If so, that's a scary thought.

Yes it is, although Nene is pretty darn good. No Center in the east had a better season than him last year.

No disrespect to Nene; if healthy, he's a good player.  He just doesn't scream "all star starter" to me.

It's by default really. The east has some solid 5's but no "All-star starters".

[Roy Hobbs]

1 Buffalo
2 Portland
3 Dallas
4 Seattle
5 Phoenix
6 Golden State
7 Utah
8 Houston
9 Memphis
10 Sacramento
11 San Antonio
12 Denver
13 Minnesota
14 Las Vegas
15 New Orleans

I understand voting Seattle ahead of Portland in the division by all means... If I'm being honest I like Portland's depth in a regular season setting, but Seattle matches up REALLY well in a 7 game series with the Crotonats... That's when the Sonics will get them. And they will get them.

Like the Spurs, just get to the playoffs, because I guarantee no one wants to face us in May/June.

If we meet in the playoffs, Hoyo, it very well may be in the WCF.  Looks like Portland is going to get a #2 seed, and I'd project you at #4.

So, to get there, we'd have: 

2 beats 7
4 beats 5

2 beats 3
4 beats 1

2 meets 4

(In no way am I predicting those results, lest anybody get offended.  It would be a fun series, though.)

[Roy Hobbs]

And when things start going wrong the finger pointing will start as the me first personalities that litter this team blow it up from the inside out. Washington, Detroit and Cleveland would all have little trouble beating that Dallas team.

Devil's advocate, but doesn't Detroit have the exact same flaws (if you only look at worst case scenario) that you've pointed out with Dallas?

[Rondo2287]

I think the East is stronger.

Our starting allstars:

C  - Nene
PF - Garnett
SF - James
SG - Wade
PG - Chris Paul

Vs

C - Dwight
PF- Duncan
Sf- Rashard Lewis?
Sg - Kobe Bryant
Pg - Chauncey Billups

I'm not sure that starting all-stars determine which conference is better.  Also, is Nene really the best starting center in the East?  If so, that's a scary thought.

Yes it is, although Nene is pretty darn good. No Center in the east had a better season than him last year.

No disrespect to Nene; if healthy, he's a good player.  He just doesn't scream "all star starter" to me.

It's by default really. The east has some solid 5's but no "All-star starters".

I dunno, I would Say between Bynum(If Healthy), Horford, Perk Might be better options for Allstar center