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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1320 on: August 14, 2009, 11:50:37 AM »

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1) I absolutely respect all people oppinions.

2) Man how Buffalo is that loved without a bench is beyond reality, Kleizas name shouldnt be with the players list.

just my 2 centavos
anyway we will kill them coming playoffs


3) Is people really considering division weakness, buffalo division is tougher so i can easily imagine them losing more games durin regular seasson.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1321 on: August 14, 2009, 11:53:34 AM »

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1) I absolutely respect all people oppinions.

2) Man how Buffalo is that loved without a bench is beyond reality, Kleizas name shouldnt be with the players list.

just my 2 centavos
anyway we will kill them coming playoffs


3) Is people really considering division weakness, buffalo division is tougher so i can easily imagine them losing more games durin regular seasson.

I see Buffalo with Howard leading pushing hard for the best record.


I see a team like Portland resting both O'Neal's and Manu during the season.  I see a team (much like the real SA) not worried about the number 1 seed with the belief that their vets can win a series on the road. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1322 on: August 14, 2009, 11:55:00 AM »

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p.s. even rebus knows his record wont be as good  during regular season.Tp for rebus honstly
and by the way I love Buffalos team, but his bench, suffer more than imagine with losing leinas
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1323 on: August 14, 2009, 11:57:32 AM »

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My bench isn't as bad as people think.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1324 on: August 14, 2009, 12:00:26 PM »

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My bench isn't as bad as people think.
I give u two mroe tps, for team luving.
but youre now very very very shorthanded.
with ray getting older , unreliable zero offense skinner and mr 8 teams Qrich.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1325 on: August 14, 2009, 12:01:09 PM »

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My bench isn't as bad as people think.

I don't think it's as bad as some have suggested.  I do think it's a weakness, though.  If we meet in the playoffs, the matchup could be epic.  (Of course, the Phoenix/Seattle matchup against you could be epic, as well.)

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1326 on: August 14, 2009, 12:02:31 PM »

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My bench isn't as bad as people think.


Did your 6th man just get traded for Mark Blount?


(I know, cheap shot)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1327 on: August 14, 2009, 12:02:49 PM »

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Hey Dont understand How you guys have a team with roy, and hedo as low as you do.....Flynn will be started for minnesota this year and Thabeet should get a ton of minutes in memphis. I dont see how you guys cant see how good thompson really is. Try comparing him to other pf's and the numbers will be similar but a little less cause he didnt play a lot the first 2 months.
Maybe you should head back and read what I wrote about defense and rebounding and the overevaluation of stars. Stars don't win games. Defense and rebounding does.

Sorry, riah, you're a good guy but your team is bad.

Blake is pretty good. Roy is a player. But you are putting huge amounts of stock in players like Hedo(a poor defender who can disappear for quarters at a time but will demand the ball in his hands at the end even if he doesn't deserve to have it or if it's at the detriment to his team), Thompson(a second year player who went mostly unguarded due to the need to stop other players on his team), Thabeet(a rookie who has shown that he can be bullied around), Johnny Flynn(an undersized rookie PG), Sam Young(another rook), Desmond Mason(god knows when he'll be going to jail again), and Craig Smith( a tough but extremely undersized PF).

It's a very bad collection of talent around one good player.

I liken your team to the Knicks in the East. Yeah, a heck of a great player but surround by bad, ill-fitting or inexperienced parts.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1328 on: August 14, 2009, 12:15:26 PM »

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1) I absolutely respect all people oppinions.

2) Man how Buffalo is that loved without a bench is beyond reality, Kleizas name shouldnt be with the players list.

just my 2 centavos
anyway we will kill them coming playoffs


3) Is people really considering division weakness, buffalo division is tougher so i can easily imagine them losing more games durin regular seasson.
Really pushing the dis-information envelope, huh, Edgar? No bench in Buffalo?

Zaza Pachulia - 6-11 275 lbs. 6 PPG, 6 RPG, in 19 MPG(that puts his per40 numbers in the 13/13 range), tough, physical defender.

Quinton Richardson - 6-6 SG that put up 10 PPG last year and is a 37% 3 point shooter. Good scoring spark that can play some SF.

Sergio Rodriguez - good young prospect backing up the PG position that is a very good passer and player in pick and roll situations. Excellent PG instincts.

James Jones - really good 3 point shooter who can stick some defense.

That's four really good young complimentary pieces tht will need to just search out their roles and given the starters enough breath to excel.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1329 on: August 14, 2009, 12:17:32 PM »

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Yeah, I like the first 4 off in Buffalo. I do think you're overrating Sergio though, and I'm a huge fan of him. His offense is good although he gets panicky, but his defense is pretty bad.

Nate Robinson is 5'9 and plays better defense.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1330 on: August 14, 2009, 12:20:41 PM »

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Yeah, I like the first 4 off in Buffalo. I do think you're overrating Sergio though, and I'm a huge fan of him. His offense is good although he gets panicky, but his defense is pretty bad.

Nate Robinson is 5'9 and plays better defense.
Yeah his defense isn't good but I like his offensive game and think with playing time, he will evolve into in good player. He is only 23.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1331 on: August 14, 2009, 12:23:18 PM »

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1) I absolutely respect all people oppinions.

2) Man how Buffalo is that loved without a bench is beyond reality, Kleizas name shouldnt be with the players list.

just my 2 centavos
anyway we will kill them coming playoffs


3) Is people really considering division weakness, buffalo division is tougher so i can easily imagine them losing more games durin regular seasson.
Really pushing the dis-information envelope, huh, Edgar? No bench in Buffalo?

Zaza Pachulia - 6-11 275 lbs. 6 PPG, 6 RPG, in 19 MPG(that puts his per40 numbers in the 13/13 range), tough, physical defender.

Quinton Richardson - 6-6 SG that put up 10 PPG last year and is a 37% 3 point shooter. Good scoring spark that can play some SF.

Sergio Rodriguez - good young prospect backing up the PG position that is a very good passer and player in pick and roll situations. Excellent PG instincts.

James Jones - really good 3 point shooter who can stick some defense.

That's four really good young complimentary pieces tht will need to just search out their roles and given the starters enough breath to excel.

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Really pushing the dis-information envelope, huh, Edgar? No bench in Buffalo?


oh nick oh nick oh nick
I am not even answering this one.


Now about the players


Za Za I have nothing bad to say about him
hes good in his role

Qrich, he hurts more than  helps, no defense AT ALL
u need D backing up Ray Ray

Sergio rodriguez have ceiling but who knows..dont overrate him

the other guy...good for a 12th roster spot in any team ??


Are u going to run a full season and tough playoffs with 8 usefull players??? thats imposible
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1332 on: August 14, 2009, 12:24:57 PM »

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1) I absolutely respect all people oppinions.

2) Man how Buffalo is that loved without a bench is beyond reality, Kleizas name shouldnt be with the players list.

just my 2 centavos
anyway we will kill them coming playoffs


3) Is people really considering division weakness, buffalo division is tougher so i can easily imagine them losing more games durin regular seasson.
Really pushing the dis-information envelope, huh, Edgar? No bench in Buffalo?

Zaza Pachulia - 6-11 275 lbs. 6 PPG, 6 RPG, in 19 MPG(that puts his per40 numbers in the 13/13 range), tough, physical defender.

Quinton Richardson - 6-6 SG that put up 10 PPG last year and is a 37% 3 point shooter. Good scoring spark that can play some SF.

Sergio Rodriguez - good young prospect backing up the PG position that is a very good passer and player in pick and roll situations. Excellent PG instincts.

James Jones - really good 3 point shooter who can stick some defense.

That's four really good young complimentary pieces tht will need to just search out their roles and given the starters enough breath to excel.

I'll leave most of my opinion for a playoff matchup, but I think most folks would admit that QRich sucks (192nd in terms of points per minute, and he shot below 40% from the field.  Plus, he plays no defense).  Also, of course, Zaza isn't the defender you're saying he is.  He rebounds, but that's about it.

No disrespect meant to Buffalo; I really like their team.  The bench is a weakness, though.  They're not as thin as Chicago, but they're not by any means deep, either, and lack a true sixth (or even seventh) man.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1333 on: August 14, 2009, 12:26:23 PM »

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New Orleans-undersized at the bigs more than me and have no bench
No offense to these teams but how are these teams better than mine.....


Utah- has no bench and dunleavy might not even hold up this season

Minnesota- only has mediocre players at best besides jameer nelson and jefferson. There bench has as many questions as mine.

Denver-Yao is out for the year and they have more young guys then me

Houston....who doesnt have a center snf or pf depending on where bosh goes and a bench that has as many or more question marks than mine

New Orleans- doesnt have any depth or talent outside of Kobe Bryant

Memphis- doesnt have a go to guy in the cluth unless you count tony parker as that guy. I dont see a big there either
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« Reply #1334 on: August 14, 2009, 12:29:09 PM »

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New Orleans-undersized at the bigs more than me and have no bench
No offense to these teams but how are these teams better than mine.....


Utah- has no bench and dunleavy might not even hold up this season

Minnesota- only has mediocre players at best besides jameer nelson and jefferson. There bench has as many questions as mine.

Denver-Yao is out for the year and they have more young guys then me

Houston....who doesnt have a center snf or pf depending on where bosh goes and a bench that has as many or more question marks than mine

New Orleans- doesnt have any depth or talent outside of Kobe Bryant

Memphis- doesnt have a go to guy in the cluth unless you count tony parker as that guy. I dont see a big there either

Brook Lopez is better than all your bigs put together right now IMONevermind thats not fair Thompson is good, im sorry, And you really think that your team is better than a team with Bosh, JJ, and Monta?
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