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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1380 on: August 14, 2009, 01:43:18 PM »

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I said im not taking anything away from smith, Nobody is a bigger BC fan and Smith fan than I am and as a clippers fan as well I was thrilled that they got him.  But that being said since he is undersized and you have a good PF he wont be that great a fit for your team. You needed a 7 footer with his stats

Didnt say you where taking anything against him just provding a little stats
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1381 on: August 14, 2009, 01:44:22 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1382 on: August 14, 2009, 01:44:44 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Its not a weight issue, its a talent issue.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1383 on: August 14, 2009, 01:44:53 PM »

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As God as my witness I cannot see a scenario in which . . . I'm the 13th best team.

Apparently, Tony Parker caught some of the stink from Mo Williams.  Parker is a fabulous player, a Finals MVP and a 50 point scorer.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1384 on: August 14, 2009, 01:45:35 PM »

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As God as my witness I cannot see a scenario in which . . . I'm the 13th best team.

Apparently, Tony Parker caught some of the stink from Mo Williams.  Parker is a fabulous player, a Finals MVP and a 50 point scorer.

Preach Reverend.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1385 on: August 14, 2009, 01:46:07 PM »

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Ok dude you have asked why people ranked you so low.  I have given countless explanations but now I really have to stop because I have a pounding headache.  But again I like your teams potential and hope to vote them higher at the halfway point

and also Craig smith is listed 6'7 which we know means hes 6'6 with shoes on
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1386 on: August 14, 2009, 01:51:05 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Big baby is stronger IMO, but he's an AWFUL rebounder. Just terrible.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1387 on: August 14, 2009, 01:54:43 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Big baby is stronger IMO, but he's an AWFUL rebounder. Just terrible.

he wont be asked to rebound on this team just score of the bench....sean marks and cunningham will do the rebounding and same with desmond mason.

How about this potential starting line-up then:
Blake
Roy
Mason
Thompson
Thabeet

I got hedo to come in off the bench similar to a posey or ginobili role
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1388 on: August 14, 2009, 01:57:47 PM »

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Poor KC. Tony Parker has Mo Juice all over him  There's no way you should be 13 or even out of the playoffs. As for San Antonio voting themselves to win the division, every voter voted the Bulls to win the division, except for three people who voted for themselves. I took no offense. They picked the players on their teams, so they're obviously going to like them a lot. I don't have a problem with S.A. voting for himself.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1389 on: August 14, 2009, 02:00:13 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Big baby is stronger IMO, but he's an AWFUL rebounder. Just terrible.
Wait Craig Smith is an awful rebounder? or Big Baby is?
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1390 on: August 14, 2009, 02:00:44 PM »

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K check out this articles on rookies if your unsure about my rookies...

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/08/14/rookiesurvey/index.html
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1391 on: August 14, 2009, 02:01:11 PM »

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K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Big baby is stronger IMO, but he's an AWFUL rebounder. Just terrible.

he wont be asked to rebound on this team just score of the bench....sean marks and cunningham will do the rebounding and same with desmond mason.

How about this potential starting line-up then:
Blake
Roy
Mason
Thompson
Thabeet

I got hedo to come in off the bench similar to a posey or ginobili role

Well I like that line of thinking, but Mason's a terrible 3pt shooter, and neither Thompson of Thabeet can spread the floor.

I do think that helps Hedo's effectiveness though.

K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:



my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.

He weighs 30lbs less than big baby and big baby doesnt have those problems so explain that now??

Big baby is stronger IMO, but he's an AWFUL rebounder. Just terrible.
Wait Craig Smith is an awful rebounder? or Big Baby is?
Craig Smith is a good back up in the league, anyone who thinks differently PM me, I watched him for four years at Boston College and I know his game real well.

They're both bad rebounders.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1392 on: August 14, 2009, 02:01:55 PM »

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riah with your insistence on calling out other teams and players that are clearly better than your's is starting to get me to seriously question your ability to judge basketball talent. Sacramento wouldn't crack the top 11 in the East, nevermind beat the Boxers.

The Boxers have:

-3 of the top 22 rebounders in the league
-The best three point shooter in the league shooting 47%.
-A PG that is top ton in the league in assists per minute and assists to turnover ratio
-A player that is one of only 4 players in the league, along with, Dwayne Wade, LeBron James and Chris Paul to average 20+ PPG, 6+ APG, and 5+ RPG.
-A center that had the third highest rebound per minute number and a top 20 shot blocker and shot blocker per minute as well as an excellent defender.
-A SF who is widely regarded as one of the best defensive SFs in the game and who has been in the top ten in steals per game for the past 5 years, top 6 the past 4 year and led the league in 2006.
- A back up PF?C that is a very good shot blocker(one of the highest block %'s in the league over the last 4-5 years) and who averages over 10 RP40M.
-A an up and coming SF in Julian Wright who has been given a starting nod in NO and who already has gone through a two year NBA learning curve that most of your young guys haven't.
-A veteran PG that can hit the three and be relied upon.
-One of the better PG prospects from last years draft who, when Tony Parker went down four games of 20 PPG and 5 APG and who averaged 10 PPG, 3.5APG and 3.5 RPG as a starter for SA.
-A PF who had 13PPG and 9 RPG and had even better numbers in the playoffs while playing CENTER because Yao Ming went down.

Sorry but one All-Star appearance by Roy and a bunch of inexperience can't beat that.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1393 on: August 14, 2009, 02:02:36 PM »

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All that article says is that the guy that you dont have starting is better equipped to make an impact right away than the guy that you do have starting.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1394 on: August 14, 2009, 02:06:31 PM »

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thompson has a decent jumpshot actually so he could space the floor. Nick I wasnt calling your team out.
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