2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[riah32]

He is not more ready than thabeet there stasing him over seas.....thabeet is playing in the NBA next year and hasnt played basketbll as many years as most of these guys have and U think based on that he will be really goood after about a month ir so of playing.

They brought Ibaka over this summer, signed him to a 2 yr contract.

And I think Thabeet will be worse this year because it takes big men longer to adapt to the NBA game, especially undersized big men. (muscle-wise. I know he's 10 ft tall)

Look, I think Thabeet will eventually be good, but you're counting on chicks that haven't hatched yet.

Ip who is your back-up 4 anyways?

I answered that like 10 pages ago. If I post it again, will you read it this time?

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=30775.msg563269#msg563269

Sorry missed that one earlier....I like craig smith better then any of those options...feel Jason Smith is more a center than a pf

[Rondo2287]

I think Baby does create more rebounding for others because of his boxing out, but at the same time.  Taking the guy our defending off the offensive boards isnt as good as having a guy that can go up there and get them himself IMO.  But I do see the value in what your saying and what BBD brings to the table. 

[Roy Hobbs]

Jason Williams Disappoints in Memphis Workout

On Thursday, Jason Williams held a rather disappointing workout with the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell RealGM's Alex Kennedy.

One witness described Williams as "a shadow of his former self" and said that while the point guard was in shape, he didn't perform well.

During a shooting drill in which each shot was charted, Williams shot an awful thirty percent from the field.

Link

[RebusRankin]

Oh and to answer Roy's question sure I admit my bench is a weakness. In some ways, we're the 86-88 Celtics in that regard.

[Roy Hobbs]

Oh and to answer Roy's question sure I admit my bench is a weakness. In some ways, we're the 86-88 Celtics in that regard.

Yeah, that's what I figured.  No team in this draft is perfect, including ours.  A lot would depend on health going into the playoffs, I imagine.

[indeedproceed]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

[indeedproceed]

Sorry missed that one earlier....I like craig smith better then any of those options...feel Jason Smith is more a center than a pf

Yeah, Jason Smith actually played more PF than Center his roookie year, but he's 7ft tall, and people don't remember how mobile he was. He hasn't played in a year, so out of sight, out of mind.

[nickagneta]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

What's so low about maybe 2 slots lower than you will probably finish IP? I finished 8th, got voted on to finish 6th and 7th most often but had a 14th vote, two 13th votes, and three 12th votes.

My guess is before it's all said and done you will get voted out of the playoffs once and 8th maybe one or two more times.

[jgod213]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

i don't really feel the need to justify all my votes, i have no vendettas against anyone.

what i will tell you is that i think your team will start off shaky as Big Al gets his act together.  Theres a ton of talent in the West, so a slow start is not an easy thing to overcome. That said i think your team puts it together enough to hold off the rest of the really good teams that didnt make it in.

i think you should relax, IP.  i had a bunch of tough decisions to make and that includes putting you in the playoffs and leaving out teams like San Antonio and Memphis.

Plus, i see my team as a top 4 seed in the West, yet some GMs are kicking me out of the playoffs entirely.  Whatever.  People see different things in different players, and i respect that.

[indeedproceed]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

i don't really feel the need to justify all my votes, i have no vendettas against anyone.

what i will tell you is that i think your team will start off shaky as Big Al gets his act together.  Theres a ton of talent in the West, so a slow start is not an easy thing to overcome. That said i think your team puts it together enough to hold off the rest of the really good teams that didnt make it in.

i think you should relax, IP.  i had a bunch of tough decisions to make and that includes putting you in the playoffs and leaving out teams like San Antonio and Memphis.

Plus, i see my team as a top 4 seed in the West, yet some GMs are kicking me out of the playoffs entirely.  Whatever.  People see different things in different players, and i respect that.

I understand that, the different strokes for different folks thing.

I was more wondering why you had me that low because of that exact reason. obviously you valued my players differently than a lot of other people. I was wondering where the differences were exactly, mostly so when I get into a playoff matchup I know what points are going to be seen as the biggest weaknesses.

[jgod213]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

i don't really feel the need to justify all my votes, i have no vendettas against anyone.

what i will tell you is that i think your team will start off shaky as Big Al gets his act together.  Theres a ton of talent in the West, so a slow start is not an easy thing to overcome. That said i think your team puts it together enough to hold off the rest of the really good teams that didnt make it in.

i think you should relax, IP.  i had a bunch of tough decisions to make and that includes putting you in the playoffs and leaving out teams like San Antonio and Memphis.

Plus, i see my team as a top 4 seed in the West, yet some GMs are kicking me out of the playoffs entirely.  Whatever.  People see different things in different players, and i respect that.

I understand that, the different strokes for different folks thing.

I was more wondering why you had me that low because of that exact reason. obviously you valued my players differently than a lot of other people. I was wondering where the differences were exactly, mostly so when I get into a playoff matchup I know what points are going to be seen as the biggest weaknesses.

well you touched upon the "experience thru reps" thing for your back-up big men - i agree that its a potential weakness but also could potentially be solved come playoff time.  I think your team is 2 or 3 seeds better then an 8th, but again, the talent is so deep from teams 1-13 in the West that a slow start is very dangerous.  i see the slow start as your team's hinderance in the regular season, but it will come together in time secure a playoff birth away from several other really good teams.

[indeedproceed]

JGod, Tradetime, BigAl...I would really like to hear why you rated teh Suns so low.

i don't really feel the need to justify all my votes, i have no vendettas against anyone.

what i will tell you is that i think your team will start off shaky as Big Al gets his act together.  Theres a ton of talent in the West, so a slow start is not an easy thing to overcome. That said i think your team puts it together enough to hold off the rest of the really good teams that didnt make it in.

i think you should relax, IP.  i had a bunch of tough decisions to make and that includes putting you in the playoffs and leaving out teams like San Antonio and Memphis.

Plus, i see my team as a top 4 seed in the West, yet some GMs are kicking me out of the playoffs entirely.  Whatever.  People see different things in different players, and i respect that.

I understand that, the different strokes for different folks thing.

I was more wondering why you had me that low because of that exact reason. obviously you valued my players differently than a lot of other people. I was wondering where the differences were exactly, mostly so when I get into a playoff matchup I know what points are going to be seen as the biggest weaknesses.

well you touched upon the "experience thru reps" thing for your back-up big men - i agree that its a potential weakness but also could potentially be solved come playoff time.  I think your team is 2 or 3 seeds better then an 8th, but again, the talent is so deep from teams 1-13 in the West that a slow start is very dangerous.  i see the slow start as your team's hinderance in the regular season, but it will come together in time secure a playoff birth away from several other really good teams.

That's exactly what I was looking for. Well that AND a top 4 big but you can't have everything.

[Gainesville Celtic]

Just posted my votes and, man, is the West difficult to rank. It's interesting to see how widely varied the rankings are --  a testament to the good GMing by the West...

I think its a lot like the real Western Conf. was a few years ago with 1-3 games separating Seeds #1-8.




I just looked in the draft rules thread but didn't see it there: any word on how the playoffs are gonna be run? it shoudl be interesting.... esp. in the West b/c I think 8 could beat 1, 7 beat 2, etc. It really will all depend on the matchups since the talent is deep enough.

[indeedproceed]

Just posted my votes and, man, is the West difficult to rank. It's interesting to see how widely varied the rankings are --  a testament to the good GMing by the West...

I think its a lot like the real Western Conf. was a few years ago with 1-3 games separating Seeds #1-8.




I just looked in the draft rules thread but didn't see it there: any word on how the playoffs are gonna be run? it shoudl be interesting.... esp. in the West b/c I think 8 could beat 1, 7 beat 2, etc. It really will all depend on the matchups since the talent is deep enough.

I don't think the talent is quite as deep as you say, but I think its close.

I think it goes in terms of tiers.

However, if the Eastern conference seeding votes hole up...what do you have to say about washington coming in 8th and a probably 1st round matchup for orlando? Is there any team that you would've liked to face LESS than Washington, who was clearly constructed with beating Orlando in mind?

[wdleehi]

The West must be deep considering how many voters are overlooking the Nuggets.