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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2145 on: July 23, 2009, 09:03:51 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2146 on: July 23, 2009, 09:06:16 PM »

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For those doing some late night shopping.


The Nuggets are happy to offer a 6th (4) and 7 (27) for a 5th and another pick (to be determined by the strength of the 5th)


Send all PM now, and as an added bonus, 1 TP for every offer and 10 TPs for the winning offer.


*you must act now as supply is limited and this is a time dependent offer.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2147 on: July 23, 2009, 09:06:27 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better

I don't see Shaq or Duncan in their prime on your squad.

Also, Camby and KG both had significant injuries last year. Who knows how they will be another year older and hurting. It'll be interesting to see how you fill out the rest of your roster. Head to head, Wade puts this roster over top as of right now.

Camby play 62 games last year no significant injuries.  Wade doesnt get to or finish at the rim against this team.

Camby had a pretty significant ankle injury last season. Wade has gotten to and finished against every team he's played against throughout his career. I'd rather not go back and forth with these type of arguments. Camby and KG are not 26 year olds.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2148 on: July 23, 2009, 09:09:40 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better

I don't see Shaq or Duncan in their prime on your squad.

Also, Camby and KG both had significant injuries last year. Who knows how they will be another year older and hurting. It'll be interesting to see how you fill out the rest of your roster. Head to head, Wade puts this roster over top as of right now.

Camby play 62 games last year no significant injuries.  Wade doesnt get to or finish at the rim against this team.

Camby had a pretty significant ankle injury last season. Wade has gotten to and finished against every team he's played against throughout his career. I'd rather not go back and forth with these type of arguments. Camby and KG are not 26 year olds.
With how week your frontcourt is this matchup isnt close. 
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2149 on: July 23, 2009, 09:10:35 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Thanks for the in depth analysis Wdleehi. What has Shaq ever done without an ace 2 gaurd?  This "what has he done without Shaq" argument was proven flawed. Did you watch that "06" playoff run?

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2150 on: July 23, 2009, 09:11:08 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better

I don't see Shaq or Duncan in their prime on your squad.

Also, Camby and KG both had significant injuries last year. Who knows how they will be another year older and hurting. It'll be interesting to see how you fill out the rest of your roster. Head to head, Wade puts this roster over top as of right now.

Camby play 62 games last year no significant injuries.  Wade doesnt get to or finish at the rim against this team.

Camby had a pretty significant ankle injury last season. Wade has gotten to and finished against every team he's played against throughout his career. I'd rather not go back and forth with these type of arguments. Camby and KG are not 26 year olds.
With how week your frontcourt is this matchup isnt close. 

Weak? where? In what aspect?

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2151 on: July 23, 2009, 09:11:11 PM »

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On the eve of a crucial fifth round of drafting, Braves GM is nowhere to be found. Rumours abound that he's off watching the Montreal Alouettes battle the Hamilton Tigercats instead of doing his job.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2152 on: July 23, 2009, 09:12:27 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Thanks for the in depth analysis Wdleehi. What has Shaq ever done without an ace 2 gaurd?  This "what has he done without Shaq" argument was proven flawed. Did you watch that "06" playoff run?

He has carried three of them to the finals.  Three.  


Shaq and Duncan combined for 8 titles in this era.  KG adds 1.  The two Wallaces add one.  

It is still the big mans game in the playoffs.  

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2153 on: July 23, 2009, 09:15:21 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Thanks for the in depth analysis Wdleehi. What has Shaq ever done without an ace 2 gaurd?  This "what has he done without Shaq" argument was proven flawed. Did you watch that "06" playoff run?

He has carried three of them to the finals.  Three.  


Shaq and Duncan combined for 8 titles in this era.  KG adds 1.  The two Wallaces add one.  

It is still the big mans game in the playoffs.  

Have you ever heard of Albert Pujols... I mean... Kobe Bryant?

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2154 on: July 23, 2009, 09:15:36 PM »

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Your front court is weak in that McDyess wouldnt start on any serious NBA contender this year.  

Odom has been about as consistent as John Kerry And didnt start most of the year.

Nene had a good year but with a good team around him and not as the 2nd scoring option which is what he would be here.  
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2155 on: July 23, 2009, 09:15:45 PM »

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I'm open to some constructive criticism. What do people think of the Bulls so far? Al Horford and Pau Gasol down low. Tayshaun at the 3 and CP3 at the point. TP's to decent reviews.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2156 on: July 23, 2009, 09:15:51 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Thanks for the in depth analysis Wdleehi. What has Shaq ever done without an ace 2 gaurd?  This "what has he done without Shaq" argument was proven flawed. Did you watch that "06" playoff run?

He has carried three of them to the finals.  Three.  


Shaq and Duncan combined for 8 titles in this era.  KG adds 1.  The two Wallaces add one.  

It is still the big mans game in the playoffs.  

Have you ever hear of Albert Pujols... I meant... Kobe Bryant?


I don't see Gasol on your team either.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2157 on: July 23, 2009, 09:18:34 PM »

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Your front court is weak in that McDyess wouldnt start on any serious NBA contender this year.
 
He's starting for the Spurs... A serious contender.

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Odom has been about as consistent as John Kerry And didnt start most of the year.

Was the Laker 6th Man and SHot over %50 from three point land throughout the playoffs along with 32 MPG.

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Nene had a good year but with a good team around him and not as the 2nd scoring option which is what he would be here.
 
No matter how you slice he is a better player than Camby. (hence the trade making him the starter.) And proved it last season.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2158 on: July 23, 2009, 09:20:07 PM »

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I'm open to some constructive criticism. What do people think of the Bulls so far? Al Horford and Pau Gasol down low. Tayshaun at the 3 and CP3 at the point. TP's to decent reviews.
I would say that the Miami Bulls are one of the strongest teams in the east right now.  Your frontcourt is good and pretty young.  You have one of the best players in the league running the show and a solid glue guy.  My only question mark is whether Horfords height and Pau's softness can be a weakness. But I would say if thats your biggest concern your on easy street to the division title
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2159 on: July 23, 2009, 09:20:34 PM »

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KG pushes the matchup in his favor.


I don't see a Shaq with Wade.  What has Wade done in the playoffs without Shaq?



KG and Camby are coming off injuries


While Nene had his first ever healthy season. 


Either way, I think Chicago, Orlando and Detroit are all ahead of them. 

Thanks for the in depth analysis Wdleehi. What has Shaq ever done without an ace 2 gaurd?  This "what has he done without Shaq" argument was proven flawed. Did you watch that "06" playoff run?

He has carried three of them to the finals.  Three.  


Shaq and Duncan combined for 8 titles in this era.  KG adds 1.  The two Wallaces add one.  

It is still the big mans game in the playoffs.  

Have you ever hear of Albert Pujols... I meant... Kobe Bryant?


I don't see Gasol on your team either.

Yeah, that was all Gasol last year.