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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2130 on: July 23, 2009, 08:17:37 PM »

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Don't use Gilbert as your PG.  


It was he they were talking about with the give and go offense.


"Just give me the ball and go to hell"


Make him the SG so your team has a better chance.

Shoot first PG?

Shoot first, second and third PG.


He is such a better player as a SG where he can shoot.  Get a PG that will get the ball to KG as well.

Sorry I didn't mean to quote that post I meant to quote about the shoot first PG leading a team to the title.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2131 on: July 23, 2009, 08:18:03 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2132 on: July 23, 2009, 08:18:43 PM »

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Wait is Toronto arguing Arenas is better than Wade?

No not saying he is as good as wade, Saying the difference between Wade being better than Arenas is as much as KG being better than McDyess
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2133 on: July 23, 2009, 08:19:59 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2134 on: July 23, 2009, 08:21:59 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

I would argue that Chauncey was better than Rasheed. Also, you didn't say "who the best player was" you said " When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title?". I may be crazy, but I think being the finals MVP is a good example of "leading a team to a title"

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2135 on: July 23, 2009, 08:24:56 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

I would argue that Chauncey was better than Rasheed. Also, you didn't say "who the best player was" you said " When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title?". I may be crazy, but I think being the finals MVP is a good example of "leading a team to a title"

 There is more to "leading a team to a title" than one series.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2136 on: July 23, 2009, 08:25:57 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

I would argue that Chauncey was better than Rasheed. Also, you didn't say "who the best player was" you said " When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title?". I may be crazy, but I think being the finals MVP is a good example of "leading a team to a title"

 There is more to "leading a team to a title" than one series.

Agreed having one of the best bigs in the history of the league on your team opens up a lot of things for you. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2137 on: July 23, 2009, 08:26:31 PM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2138 on: July 23, 2009, 08:29:25 PM »

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ORL sends: Emeka Okafor, 7th rounder (19), 9th rounder (19)

PHI sends: Jason Richardson, 7th rounder (10), 8th rounder (14)


I think this about fair, I think the Richardson Departure helps Phily alot.  I think Richardson took a huge step backwards in Phoenix and dont rate him very high at all anymore.  Emeka is what he is and is a very solid defender and rebounder.  The only problem is that once Bynum gets hurt again you will have to play Emeka at the 5 which isnt a great fit for him.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2139 on: July 23, 2009, 08:32:20 PM »

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I think the swapping of players benefits both teams.  One of the reasons we agreed.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2140 on: July 23, 2009, 08:38:01 PM »

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I think the swapping of players benefits both teams.  One of the reasons we agreed.

I agree.  I like the lineups better now for both.


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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2141 on: July 23, 2009, 08:42:45 PM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2142 on: July 23, 2009, 08:50:22 PM »

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Both teams played hard......Both teams played hard......Both teams played hard......Both teams played hard......


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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2143 on: July 23, 2009, 08:54:03 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better

I don't see Shaq or Duncan in their prime on your squad.

Also, Camby and KG both had significant injuries last year. Who knows how they will be another year older and hurting. It'll be interesting to see how you fill out the rest of your roster. Head to head, Wade puts this roster over top as of right now.  Good luck gonig forward. This is going to be fun regardless.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread
« Reply #2144 on: July 23, 2009, 08:55:35 PM »

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Right now you dont have one

When's the last time a PG lead a team to a title? To me, as evidence by the latest dynasties and champions; a solid, ball distributing PG is more than sufficient. There are still many available.

2004 and 2007

Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace.

I don't remember them winning the Finals MVP that year.

I didn't ask "who is the last PG to win the NBA finals MVP?"

The best player on both teams: Duncan and Rasheed. I don't think many would argue with that.

So then we are in agreement that Big men win Titles, and my front line is far and away better

I don't see Shaq or Duncan in their prime on your squad.

Also, Camby and KG both had significant injuries last year. Who knows how they will be another year older and hurting. It'll be interesting to see how you fill out the rest of your roster. Head to head, Wade puts this roster over top as of right now.

Camby play 62 games last year no significant injuries.  Wade doesnt get to or finish at the rim against this team.
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