Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

I felt bad for Glen Davis last night because he had 3 layups not fall.  I felt bad because I like Davis and want him to succeed, surprise people, etc.  And I expect him to recover and those shots to drop next game, and I expect that he'll be fine in the long run.  Baby, you're going to have a great career!

BUT:  I couldn't help thinking that with N.B.A. GM's watching last night's game, those missed layups might have rendered Glen about 2 million dollars less expensive next season.  Missed layups make a big impression, especially when you're vertically challenged. 

If a GM is smart, they won't spend huge money on Davis.  For as good as he's been at times, he's really not a starter on a contender unless the team is really, really good in other areas, and even then it's debatable since this team is really good at every other position and probably couldn't win a title with him starting at the 4.  For as talented as he can be, his inability to elevate combined with his lack of size is always going to make it tough for him to finish around the basket against teams with good interior defense. 

I don't get Glen. I've seen him dunk multiple times but he always chooses to lay the ball in either directly or via the reverse (in an effort to use the rim as a shield). Why doesn't he dunk every time?

[crownsy]

I felt bad for Glen Davis last night because he had 3 layups not fall.  I felt bad because I like Davis and want him to succeed, surprise people, etc.  And I expect him to recover and those shots to drop next game, and I expect that he'll be fine in the long run.  Baby, you're going to have a great career!

BUT:  I couldn't help thinking that with N.B.A. GM's watching last night's game, those missed layups might have rendered Glen about 2 million dollars less expensive next season.  Missed layups make a big impression, especially when you're vertically challenged. 

If a GM is smart, they won't spend huge money on Davis.  For as good as he's been at times, he's really not a starter on a contender unless the team is really, really good in other areas, and even then it's debatable since this team is really good at every other position and probably couldn't win a title with him starting at the 4.  For as talented as he can be, his inability to elevate combined with his lack of size is always going to make it tough for him to finish around the basket against teams with good interior defense. 

I don't get Glen. I've seen him dunk multiple times but he always chooses to lay the ball in either directly or via the reverse (in an effort to use the rim as a shield). Why doesn't he dunk every time?

Ive only seen him dunk with a good lane to run up and jump on a fast break, he cant standing dunk ala KG or perk and leon.

Yes, he can dunk if he gets a lane, but he works right under the basket, he rarley has the room to get a running start off a rebound.

[Chris]

I felt bad for Glen Davis last night because he had 3 layups not fall.  I felt bad because I like Davis and want him to succeed, surprise people, etc.  And I expect him to recover and those shots to drop next game, and I expect that he'll be fine in the long run.  Baby, you're going to have a great career!

BUT:  I couldn't help thinking that with N.B.A. GM's watching last night's game, those missed layups might have rendered Glen about 2 million dollars less expensive next season.  Missed layups make a big impression, especially when you're vertically challenged. 

If a GM is smart, they won't spend huge money on Davis.  For as good as he's been at times, he's really not a starter on a contender unless the team is really, really good in other areas, and even then it's debatable since this team is really good at every other position and probably couldn't win a title with him starting at the 4.  For as talented as he can be, his inability to elevate combined with his lack of size is always going to make it tough for him to finish around the basket against teams with good interior defense. 

I don't get Glen. I've seen him dunk multiple times but he always chooses to lay the ball in either directly or via the reverse (in an effort to use the rim as a shield). Why doesn't he dunk every time?

Because while he can dunk, he is not an explosive leaper.  In general, unless you are able to get up, well over the top of the rim (like Howard can), and dunk over a challenging hand, the much smarter (and easier) play is to lay it off the glass.  This makes it much harder to block without goaltending, and also gives the shooter more angles to use, in order to decieve the defender.  Its easier for a defender to defend a dunk, because they know they are going right for the rim.  If you are laying it in, you can use either side of the rim, and can also vary the distance you are from the rim. 

[Chris]

I felt bad for Glen Davis last night because he had 3 layups not fall.  I felt bad because I like Davis and want him to succeed, surprise people, etc.  And I expect him to recover and those shots to drop next game, and I expect that he'll be fine in the long run.  Baby, you're going to have a great career!

BUT:  I couldn't help thinking that with N.B.A. GM's watching last night's game, those missed layups might have rendered Glen about 2 million dollars less expensive next season.  Missed layups make a big impression, especially when you're vertically challenged. 

If a GM is smart, they won't spend huge money on Davis.  For as good as he's been at times, he's really not a starter on a contender unless the team is really, really good in other areas, and even then it's debatable since this team is really good at every other position and probably couldn't win a title with him starting at the 4.  For as talented as he can be, his inability to elevate combined with his lack of size is always going to make it tough for him to finish around the basket against teams with good interior defense. 

I don't get Glen. I've seen him dunk multiple times but he always chooses to lay the ball in either directly or via the reverse (in an effort to use the rim as a shield). Why doesn't he dunk every time?

Ive only seen him dunk with a good lane to run up and jump on a fast break, he cant standing dunk ala KG or perk and leon.

Yes, he can dunk if he gets a lane, but he works right under the basket, he rarley has the room to get a running start off a rebound.

I've seen him dunk from a standstill.  The problem is, he does not get well above the rim, which makes it tough for him to have much power, which in turn makes it easy to block.

[BudweiserCeltic]

He needs a bit of a windup, sometimes he dribbles the ball to get the leap needed. He's not a quick leaper, plus he exposes the ball for easy blocking. He simply needs to use the backboard better. As he currently is, going for the dunk doesn't seem like an appropiate play for him.

[acieEarl]

I felt bad for Glen Davis last night because he had 3 layups not fall.  I felt bad because I like Davis and want him to succeed, surprise people, etc.  And I expect him to recover and those shots to drop next game, and I expect that he'll be fine in the long run.  Baby, you're going to have a great career!

BUT:  I couldn't help thinking that with N.B.A. GM's watching last night's game, those missed layups might have rendered Glen about 2 million dollars less expensive next season.  Missed layups make a big impression, especially when you're vertically challenged. 

If a GM is smart, they won't spend huge money on Davis.  For as good as he's been at times, he's really not a starter on a contender unless the team is really, really good in other areas, and even then it's debatable since this team is really good at every other position and probably couldn't win a title with him starting at the 4.  For as talented as he can be, his inability to elevate combined with his lack of size is always going to make it tough for him to finish around the basket against teams with good interior defense. 

I don't get Glen. I've seen him dunk multiple times but he always chooses to lay the ball in either directly or via the reverse (in an effort to use the rim as a shield). Why doesn't he dunk every time?

Because while he can dunk, he is not an explosive leaper.  In general, unless you are able to get up, well over the top of the rim (like Howard can), and dunk over a challenging hand, the much smarter (and easier) play is to lay it off the glass.  This makes it much harder to block without goaltending, and also gives the shooter more angles to use, in order to decieve the defender.  Its easier for a defender to defend a dunk, because they know they are going right for the rim.  If you are laying it in, you can use either side of the rim, and can also vary the distance you are from the rim. 

He actually does the smart thing by not dunking and uses his massive frame to create room and avoid the block. He can dunk but would get blocked a lot as he's pretty short for a power forward. Similar move to an Anthony Mason.

[cordobes]

Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.

Yeah the C's can resign BBD this offseason. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. Hopefully he doesn't get a full MLE type of offer and we can get him for a little bit more reasonable price. But Turiaf got a big offer sheet, I expect baby will get a similar deal.

Perk's 4 years at around 4 per worked out for us well. Maybe Baby would too for that type of money...

Yeah, 4 years/$16 millions was more or less what Turiaf got and Davis may get something similar to that. I'm not sure if Baby is worth that for the C's though. We're already over the projected luxury tax threshold before any signings. Without knowing the budgetary restrictions, who else is going to be available and for what price and if we can dump some salaries or not it's hard to grasp how much should we offer Davis.

That is my thinking too. But with KG's and Powe's health issues I think that the C's won't be in a position to let BBD walk. Turiaf was going to be the Laker's third PF.

Of course a lot depends on who they can sign with the MLE.

I think as much as i love him and the way he plays, and feel for his bad luck, you have to consider leon very carefully.

All for signing him to a cheap 2 year deal and replacing the 12th man "project/rehab" spot with powe powe for 2010, but you can't rely on him for next year.

Yeah, I think we can afford to waste that roster spot with Leon, assuming he's willing to sign a contract with a team option for the 2nd year.

Davis, I don't know. What if the luxury tax threshold drops to $68 millions, as some have projected and Wyc says "okay, we're spending close to the max we can afford this season, so we can go till $10 million over the threshold and pay the additional $10 million in tax money" - that would mean, for all practical effects, a $88 million salary roll and a de facto increase in personnel expenses from this season.

That would also mean you'd only have $5 millions available to spend. Would you be willing to spend it almost entirely on Big Baby and fill out the rest of the roster with min. salary players? Or do you try to split those $5 millions for a couple of veterans who can produce? Do you try to make a trade later? Do you try to make a trade to clear salary or to acquire talent?

I think it's far from a given we keep Davis, even with the Powe and Garnett situations.

Anyway, we'll have time to talk about this issue.

[cordobes]

We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

He's going to have surgery on his knee, not a lobotomy.

[kenmaine]

We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

He's going to have surgery on his knee, not a lobotomy.

TP for possibly the best line ever on CB

[GLS]

We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

He's going to have surgery on his knee, not a lobotomy.

Slow clap, while rising to my feet.