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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2009, 12:09:33 PM »

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I'm just saying here, but other than those jumpers at the end of the game, he played like crap throughout the game.  His defense outside the paint is atrocious.  His D is pretty good in the post.  His moving screens are abundant, and he doesn't rebound well.  Personally I think he and Scal are the biggest beneficiaries of playing with three HOFs, and a borderline fourth all star.  Anyone who overpays him next year is seriously gonna regret it. 

he's not a premieter player. why on earth would a 280 pound guy be able to defend the 3 pt line?

you think perk can cover lebron out there?

Lewis is a problem without KG, who would normally gaurd him. He's a problem for the entire NBA, because he's an oddball. most 6'10 guys can't put the ball on the floor and shoot the 3 as well as he can, with his quickness.
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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2009, 05:05:00 PM »

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biggest shot of his life.  But there is a reason he was open for it.   

He makes the most of what he has.  I'll give him that.

Notice how LarBrd33 didn't call him Obese this time.  ;D  Scared he'll push you down like that kid? j/k  ;D
I called him "Obeast" in the game thread thanks to his late game heroics.

He's still a 3rd string big man on a good team, though. 

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2009, 06:26:20 PM »

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biggest shot of his life.  But there is a reason he was open for it.   

He makes the most of what he has.  I'll give him that.

Notice how LarBrd33 didn't call him Obese this time.  ;D  Scared he'll push you down like that kid? j/k  ;D
I called him "Obeast" in the game thread thanks to his late game heroics.

He's still a 3rd string big man on a good team, though. 

Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.  Glen Davis is not a third string big man.  He's definitely a sixth man type.  The kid is averaging 17-6, as a STARTER in the playoffs going against Howard and Lewis.  Those numbers aren't far off from KG's, of course he doesn't stack up defensively, but still..  Give it up, the kid has already proven you wrong, whether you admit it or not.
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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2009, 06:37:35 PM »

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Yeah the C's can resign BBD this offseason. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. Hopefully he doesn't get a full MLE type of offer and we can get him for a little bit more reasonable price. But Turiaf got a big offer sheet, I expect baby will get a similar deal.

Perk's 4 years at around 4 per worked out for us well. Maybe Baby would too for that type of money...

I think the thing going for the Cs in terms of resigning BBD is that at the end of the day, he is a 6'8" (and that is generous) big man.  In other words, he is undersized, and many execs will shy away from him for that reason alone.  They don't want to be the one to sign him to big money, have him turn out to be a bust, and then have the local media monday morning quarterback the signing and say of course BBD was going to be a bust, he is a short big man...

Another thing going for the Cs is that BBD is in a starting line up with arguably 4 all stars (I lump Perk and Rondo in the list b/c they will be all starts, sooner or later).  Not many other teams can boast that, and so there may be some worry that BBD's success in Boston is because of who he is surrounded by...

Because of those above two points, and because teams will try to save $$ for 2010, I bet the best offer for BBD comes in around $3.5M per year....
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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2009, 07:37:49 PM »

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Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.

Yeah the C's can resign BBD this offseason. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. Hopefully he doesn't get a full MLE type of offer and we can get him for a little bit more reasonable price. But Turiaf got a big offer sheet, I expect baby will get a similar deal.

Perk's 4 years at around 4 per worked out for us well. Maybe Baby would too for that type of money...

Yeah, 4 years/$16 millions was more or less what Turiaf got and Davis may get something similar to that. I'm not sure if Baby is worth that for the C's though. We're already over the projected luxury tax threshold before any signings. Without knowing the budgetary restrictions, who else is going to be available and for what price and if we can dump some salaries or not it's hard to grasp how much should we offer Davis.

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2009, 08:41:32 PM »

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where's the baby haters now? =)

also baby haters sounds like a wrong thing...quick google search = comedy gold:

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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2009, 08:44:53 PM »

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Now he can go from having one of everything, to two of everything!



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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »

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biggest shot of his life.  But there is a reason he was open for it.   

He makes the most of what he has.  I'll give him that.

Notice how LarBrd33 didn't call him Obese this time.  ;D  Scared he'll push you down like that kid? j/k  ;D
I called him "Obeast" in the game thread thanks to his late game heroics.

He's still a 3rd string big man on a good team, though. 

  So the Celts were a crap team all year?

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2009, 09:37:44 PM »

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Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.
a conditional 2nd? really? i know baby has his limits, but the guy has put 16/6 as a starting PF in the postseason...he put up pretty similar numbers as a starter during the regular season. that is worth MUCH more than a conditional 2nd round pick.

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2009, 09:51:19 AM »

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Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.

Yeah the C's can resign BBD this offseason. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. Hopefully he doesn't get a full MLE type of offer and we can get him for a little bit more reasonable price. But Turiaf got a big offer sheet, I expect baby will get a similar deal.

Perk's 4 years at around 4 per worked out for us well. Maybe Baby would too for that type of money...

Yeah, 4 years/$16 millions was more or less what Turiaf got and Davis may get something similar to that. I'm not sure if Baby is worth that for the C's though. We're already over the projected luxury tax threshold before any signings. Without knowing the budgetary restrictions, who else is going to be available and for what price and if we can dump some salaries or not it's hard to grasp how much should we offer Davis.
That is my thinking too. But with KG's and Powe's health issues I think that the C's won't be in a position to let BBD walk. Turiaf was going to be the Laker's third PF.

Of course a lot depends on who they can sign with the MLE.

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2009, 10:25:11 AM »

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Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.
a conditional 2nd? really? i know baby has his limits, but the guy has put 16/6 as a starting PF in the postseason...he put up pretty similar numbers as a starter during the regular season. that is worth MUCH more than a conditional 2nd round pick.

+1 cordobes, you got a lunker!

kidding aside, i think you'll find cor was being sarcastic. :D
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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2009, 10:26:55 AM »

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Doc is just showcasing him. Hopefully we'll be able to trade him for a conditional 2nd round pick.

Yeah the C's can resign BBD this offseason. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. Hopefully he doesn't get a full MLE type of offer and we can get him for a little bit more reasonable price. But Turiaf got a big offer sheet, I expect baby will get a similar deal.

Perk's 4 years at around 4 per worked out for us well. Maybe Baby would too for that type of money...

Yeah, 4 years/$16 millions was more or less what Turiaf got and Davis may get something similar to that. I'm not sure if Baby is worth that for the C's though. We're already over the projected luxury tax threshold before any signings. Without knowing the budgetary restrictions, who else is going to be available and for what price and if we can dump some salaries or not it's hard to grasp how much should we offer Davis.
That is my thinking too. But with KG's and Powe's health issues I think that the C's won't be in a position to let BBD walk. Turiaf was going to be the Laker's third PF.

Of course a lot depends on who they can sign with the MLE.

I think as much as i love him and the way he plays, and feel for his bad luck, you have to consider leon very carefully.

All for signing him to a cheap 2 year deal and replacing the 12th man "project/rehab" spot with powe powe for 2010, but you can't rely on him for next year.
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Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2009, 10:47:38 AM »

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We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

Re: Did Baby get 2 mil. cheaper?
« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2009, 11:05:57 AM »

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We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

Impossible. Leon doesn't dribble enough to reach Tony's "off my foot turnover" total.

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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2009, 11:08:57 AM »

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We may have to overpay to keep Baby. Leon is just a huge question mark.

What if Leon comes back and plays like Tony Allen?

Impossible. Leon doesn't dribble enough to reach Tony's "off my foot turnover" total.

also leons injury did not appear to involve potential brain damage that would make his basketball I.Q drop to I am sam levels.

I kid because i love TA fans  :D
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