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Who would you resign?

Glen Davis
33 (46.5%)
Leon Powe
38 (53.5%)

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Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2009, 12:46:15 PM »

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Davis net performance has been pretty abysmal. One okay month with his J doesn't excuse his crappy rebounding, crappy shot blocking, crappy ability to get out on the break and his crappy finishing..

Powe is better but honestly neither are great shakes.

With the exception of Powe's rebounding, he really isn't much better at anything.  He's good at drawing fouls, but what good is that if you can't make free throws?  Personally, I think BBD is the better overall player.
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Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2009, 04:25:06 PM »

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Davis net performance has been pretty abysmal. One okay month with his J doesn't excuse his crappy rebounding, crappy shot blocking, crappy ability to get out on the break and his crappy finishing..

Powe is better but honestly neither are great shakes.

With the exception of Powe's rebounding, he really isn't much better at anything.  He's good at drawing fouls, but what good is that if you can't make free throws?  Personally, I think BBD is the better overall player.

 How about finishing around the rim?! How about filling the lanes on the fast break? Quite honestly, since BBD isn't better at anything else really, the Rebounding advantage is plenty to put the distance between he and BBD.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2009, 04:38:53 PM »

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How about passing the [dang] ball? I think that puts plenty of distance myself.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2009, 04:40:53 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2009, 04:45:59 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.
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Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2009, 04:50:23 PM »

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How about passing the [dang] ball? I think that puts plenty of distance myself.

Do the people who think Powe is a ballhog, incapable of passing the ball ever consider the fact that maybe this is what the coaching staff wants Powe to do if he's in a one on one situation?  Powe averages 4+ shots a game in about 16 minutes. Most of these shots are taken with the second team on the floor. These are good percentage plays for the Celtics with the second team because Powe will make half of these shots or go to the line.    

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2009, 04:52:52 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

I second Blob's post!  [dang], you took the sentiments right out my keyboard!  TP for you!  :)

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2009, 04:54:43 PM »

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Oh and two more things.

Powe gets the opponents' big men in foul trouble (which Big Baby doesn't).

Furthermore, with the addition of Mikki Moore who is taller, more experienced, and has a much better face-up shot, Big Baby just became even more useless than he already was. There's not a single thing that Big Baby can do better than a combination of Mikki and Powe. I like the guy, but he's honestly extremely expendable for this team, and probably wouldn't be of much help to any other teams out there.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2009, 04:55:27 PM »

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How about passing the [dang] ball? I think that puts plenty of distance myself.

Do the people who think Powe is a ballhog, incapable of passing the ball ever consider the fact that maybe this is what the coaching staff wants Powe to do if he's in a one on one situation?  Powe averages 4+ shots a game in about 16 minutes. Most of these shots are taken with the second team on the floor. These are good percentage plays for the Celtics with the second team because Powe will make half of these shots or go to the line.    

Doc preaches ball movement. I don't think Doc wants Powe to do this when the whole team starts collapsing on him and he's incapable of passing the ball to an open man.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2009, 04:55:45 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

I second Blob's post!  [dang], you took the sentiments right out my keyboard!  TP for you!  :)

Hey, that was my post!! And my tommy point :)

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2009, 04:57:49 PM »

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Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

Powe caught LA off guard. I loved his performance in game 2. But do you think he will ever be able to uncork 20 points again against LA, now that they know who he is?

Hearing Powe mentioned in the same paragraph with all-star level is a bit over the top.  :o

Baby can at least lean on Duncan, Bynum, big Z, Varajao, etc. Powe struggles a ton against physical 6-10+ dudes. Baby can pass and handle the ball better. Baby moves his feet better on perimeter D against the bigs with range.

I still think it is a close call between the 2. Powe is a better rebounder, scorer (they're equally bad scoring against the above mentioned names), and is ripped.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2009, 05:02:35 PM »

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By the way, I'm surprised to see Baby taking the tie breaker lead in this poll, of who would you keep if you could only keep 1 of them next summer.

Davis 30
Powe 29

Powe has been the easy favorite all last year and summer. Baby is gaining on him.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2009, 05:05:49 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

I second Blob's post!  [dang], you took the sentiments right out my keyboard!  TP for you!  :)

Hey, that was my post!! And my tommy point :)
;D TP for you sir, Scalablob is always generous to the posters. Regarding Powe as the block hole though, me and Toine43 were talking about that a few days ago. Recently Powe will have no other option then to bring it in, and everyone will move away from him (limiting his passing).
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Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2009, 05:06:57 PM »

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How about passing the [dang] ball? I think that puts plenty of distance myself.

Do the people who think Powe is a ballhog, incapable of passing the ball ever consider the fact that maybe this is what the coaching staff wants Powe to do if he's in a one on one situation?  Powe averages 4+ shots a game in about 16 minutes. Most of these shots are taken with the second team on the floor. These are good percentage plays for the Celtics with the second team because Powe will make half of these shots or go to the line.    

Doc preaches ball movement. I don't think Doc wants Powe to do this when the whole team starts collapsing on him and he's incapable of passing the ball to an open man.

I believe most of the times when Powe is double-teamed, he'll try to get the ball to an open man. But let me ask you, how often does a bench player averaging 6+ pts per game get double-teamed?  I don't think very often and that's why Powe has the green light to go against anybody one on one.  If Rivers frowned on Powe taking it one on one, I doubt Powe would be getting 16 minutes per game and Powe would have been instructed to stop doing this a long time ago.

Re: Davis vs. Powe: February poll
« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2009, 05:08:24 PM »

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This is absolutely absurd. Powe all of the way.

Powe has more ppg in fewer minutes at a higher field goal percentage. Plus, he's a better rebounder. Baby can't finish at the rim, and his outside shot is streaky at best.

And while I'm always the first to admit stats aren't the be-all end-all of player evaluations, check this out.

Powe's PER this year:       15.0
Big Baby's PER this year:    9.2

That's a massive difference. Powe is clearly superior to Baby this year. But what's truly hilarious is that Powe is STILL better after COMPLETELY REGRESSING FROM LAST YEAR.

Powe's PER last year:        20.9!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Baby's PER last year:    11.3

Do any of you think Powe's 20 point game in the finals came out of nowhere? Of course not... he was playing at an extremely high level the entire year and if you couldn't see that you're probably blind.

Powe has been mediocre this year, but last year he was playing at a borderline all-star level on a per-minute basis. So it's easy to see the potential.

Big Baby, on the other hand, has always been below average and I don't understand what other people could possibly see in him.

I second Blob's post!  [dang], you took the sentiments right out my keyboard!  TP for you!  :)

Hey, that was my post!! And my tommy point :)

I gave you the TP, I only agreed with Blob saying nice post to you!