Who Will the Red Sox Target for 08/09 FA? Who Will They Trade?

[nickagneta]

yell hate 75 percent 80 percent 70 percent , whatever it is the redsox has the advantage. Don't ask me as to how i came up with that percentage , its just a hunch

Let me ask you something, do you give julio lugo a 3 year deal with no trade claus?? absolutely not

How about a player like manny?? well its a safer risk because you know he has the talent to produce for a long time. If he is not wanted also he will ask to leave more than anything. For me a no trade claus once you deal with a superstar type talent doesn't mean anything really if you think about it

nationals or orioles could go up to 8 year 170 million and include all the clauses he wants, i mean eventually them being contenders won't matter much anymore for teixera to consider them

Forget the no trade clause already. It's not going to happen. They didn't give it to Ortiz, Ramirez, Varitek, Matsuzaka, Beckett, Pedroia or anyone else. They don't do it.

[crownsy]

yell hate 75 percent 80 percent 70 percent , whatever it is the redsox has the advantage. Don't ask me as to how i came up with that percentage , its just a hunch

Let me ask you something, do you give julio lugo a 3 year deal with no trade claus?? absolutely not

How about a player like manny?? well its a safer risk because you know he has the talent to produce for a long time. If he is not wanted also he will ask to leave more than anything. For me a no trade claus once you deal with a superstar type talent doesn't mean anything really if you think about it

nationals or orioles could go up to 8 year 170 million and include all the clauses he wants, i mean eventually them being contenders won't matter much anymore for teixera to consider them

Theo and henry are on record as saying it will never happen.

If they did it after taking that stance with every other guy on the roster, they'd have a revolt on thier hands.

I do agree with you that he will sign with us though. The yankees, the traditional big money foil, are out this year and waiting for the scraps (manny) and the mystery team doesn't exist. We'll get him.

[yall hate]

yell hate 75 percent 80 percent 70 percent , whatever it is the redsox has the advantage. Don't ask me as to how i came up with that percentage , its just a hunch

Let me ask you something, do you give julio lugo a 3 year deal with no trade claus?? absolutely not

How about a player like manny?? well its a safer risk because you know he has the talent to produce for a long time. If he is not wanted also he will ask to leave more than anything. For me a no trade claus once you deal with a superstar type talent doesn't mean anything really if you think about it

nationals or orioles could go up to 8 year 170 million and include all the clauses he wants, i mean eventually them being contenders won't matter much anymore for teixera to consider them

Forget the no trade clause already. It's not going to happen. They didn't give it to Ortiz, Ramirez, Varitek, Matsuzaka, Beckett, Pedroia or anyone else. They don't do it.

Actually, I must say, they did give Tek and Dice K one.  They just didnt call it a no trade clause.  They termed it a conditional clause that if certain conditions were met, then they couldnt be traded.  Whatever the case, I doubt Tex gets one.

Here is the article about the no trade clauses...
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/index.php/2006/12/14/matsuzaka-has-full-no-trade-clause/

[yall hate]

also, most recent rumor is that the Nationals have taken the lead.

http://masnsports.com/2008/12/the-nationals-may-have-taken-t.html

there is so much bs flying that who knows if it is true or not, but if he isnt going to sign with us, the nationals would be my next choice.  get him out of our hair, away from rivals, etc...

[Toine43]

also, most recent rumor is that the Nationals have taken the lead.

http://masnsports.com/2008/12/the-nationals-may-have-taken-t.html

there is so much bs flying that who knows if it is true or not, but if he isnt going to sign with us, the nationals would be my next choice.  get him out of our hair, away from rivals, etc...

Buster Olney reported earlier today that the Os have not adjusted and will not adjust their 7-year, $140 million offer. He also said that he is fairly certain the Nats would stay around 8 years, $160 million, but this report contradicts that. He seemed to be convinced that Boston is going to land Tex, and despite this, I still think Boston will get him.

And if the Nats pry him from Boston with a 10-year offer, good for them, because they'll be screwing themselves over by doing that. It just wouldn't be a sound business decision for an organization with the payroll that they have.

[yall hate]

also, most recent rumor is that the Nationals have taken the lead.

http://masnsports.com/2008/12/the-nationals-may-have-taken-t.html

there is so much bs flying that who knows if it is true or not, but if he isnt going to sign with us, the nationals would be my next choice.  get him out of our hair, away from rivals, etc...

Buster Olney reported earlier today that the Os have not adjusted and will not adjust their 7-year, $140 million offer. He also said that he is fairly certain the Nats would stay around 8 years, $160 million, but this report contradicts that. He seemed to be convinced that Boston is going to land Tex, and despite this, I still think Boston will get him.

And if the Nats pry him from Boston with a 10-year offer, good for them, because they'll be screwing themselves over by doing that. It just wouldn't be a sound business decision for an organization with the payroll that they have.

Yea this is certainly contradictory to what Olney and the other major sports writers have stated.

The Nats are stupid even if they only offer an 8 year deal.  They are going to suck for the next few years, then be mediocre.  giving that cash and that deal is just silly.  but at least they are trying...i guess.

[Mean Gerald Green]

yell hate 75 percent 80 percent 70 percent , whatever it is the redsox has the advantage. Don't ask me as to how i came up with that percentage , its just a hunch

Let me ask you something, do you give julio lugo a 3 year deal with no trade claus?? absolutely not

How about a player like manny?? well its a safer risk because you know he has the talent to produce for a long time. If he is not wanted also he will ask to leave more than anything. For me a no trade claus once you deal with a superstar type talent doesn't mean anything really if you think about it

nationals or orioles could go up to 8 year 170 million and include all the clauses he wants, i mean eventually them being contenders won't matter much anymore for teixera to consider them

Theo and henry are on record as saying it will never happen.

If they did it after taking that stance with every other guy on the roster, they'd have a revolt on thier hands.

I do agree with you that he will sign with us though. The yankees, the traditional big money foil, are out this year and waiting for the scraps (manny) and the mystery team doesn't exist. We'll get him.

That's a hell of a scrap.

The Nationals should focus on building a contending team from the ground up, not by signing a big money player and crippling their available budget. He'd only last a few seasons there before they had to part ways.

[crownsy]

yell hate 75 percent 80 percent 70 percent , whatever it is the redsox has the advantage. Don't ask me as to how i came up with that percentage , its just a hunch

Let me ask you something, do you give julio lugo a 3 year deal with no trade claus?? absolutely not

How about a player like manny?? well its a safer risk because you know he has the talent to produce for a long time. If he is not wanted also he will ask to leave more than anything. For me a no trade claus once you deal with a superstar type talent doesn't mean anything really if you think about it

nationals or orioles could go up to 8 year 170 million and include all the clauses he wants, i mean eventually them being contenders won't matter much anymore for teixera to consider them

Theo and henry are on record as saying it will never happen.

If they did it after taking that stance with every other guy on the roster, they'd have a revolt on thier hands.

I do agree with you that he will sign with us though. The yankees, the traditional big money foil, are out this year and waiting for the scraps (manny) and the mystery team doesn't exist. We'll get him.

That's a hell of a scrap.

The Nationals should focus on building a contending team from the ground up, not by signing a big money player and crippling their available budget. He'd only last a few seasons there before they had to part ways.

I think manny would be a collasal failure in NYC. He'll be good for about half a year, then he'll realize that the kids gloves of the LA media are gone and the east coast in-your-face-24/7 media (which is what he said he always hated about boston) is back.

I don't think manny really wants anymore of the craziness of the east coast, i think he's pulling a uh oh angels, you might lose me to the yanks! card to get more $$

[Tr1boy]

I think the redsox should do the honorable thing right now and try to get lowell moving. I have been thinking and in no way can these three guys co exist together especially with the issue of sharing time. Also it is sort inefficient to pay three guys starters money yet one of each will sit down for at least 30 plus games in the year.

Its out in open the sox want teix, likelyhood teix is coming here and with youk bound to get a good long deal after teix, its a good thing to start shopping lowell now.

Worst case scenerio if we trade lowell(for a catcher hopefully or a really good utility guy, 4th outfielder or proscpects) and somehow teixera doesn't even come here, we still can sign other 3b/1b free agents or in my opinion i would love to give lars anderson a shot at first moving youk to 3b.

out of all this process i do feel bad for our 2007 world series mvp mike lowell

[Mean Gerald Green]

I think the redsox should do the honorable thing right now and try to get lowell moving. I have been thinking and in no way can these three guys co exist together especially with the issue of sharing time. Also it is sort inefficient to pay three guys starters money yet one of each will sit down for at least 30 plus games in the year.

Its out in open the sox want teix, likelyhood teix is coming here and with youk bound to get a good long deal after teix, its a good thing to start shopping lowell now.

Worst case scenerio if we trade lowell(for a catcher hopefully or a really good utility guy, 4th outfielder or proscpects) and somehow teixera doesn't even come here, we still can sign other 3b/1b free agents or in my opinion i would love to give lars anderson a shot at first moving youk to 3b.

out of all this process i do feel bad for our 2007 world series mvp mike lowell

The Sox would NEVER trade Lowell unless they absolutely had Teixeira signed.

It is too early for Lars Anderson, they would never move Lowell, risk losing out on Teixeira and then have to rush their slugging prospect to the majors. The Red Sox aren't dumb they are one of the top organizations in baseball when it comes to personnel.

[Big_Matt34]

I think the redsox should do the honorable thing right now and try to get lowell moving. I have been thinking and in no way can these three guys co exist together especially with the issue of sharing time. Also it is sort inefficient to pay three guys starters money yet one of each will sit down for at least 30 plus games in the year.

Its out in open the sox want teix, likelyhood teix is coming here and with youk bound to get a good long deal after teix, its a good thing to start shopping lowell now.

Worst case scenerio if we trade lowell(for a catcher hopefully or a really good utility guy, 4th outfielder or proscpects) and somehow teixera doesn't even come here, we still can sign other 3b/1b free agents or in my opinion i would love to give lars anderson a shot at first moving youk to 3b.

out of all this process i do feel bad for our 2007 world series mvp mike lowell

The Sox would NEVER trade Lowell unless they absolutely had Teixeira signed.

It is too early for Lars Anderson, they would never move Lowell, risk losing out on Teixeira and then have to rush their slugging prospect to the majors. The Red Sox aren't dumb they are one of the top organizations in baseball when it comes to personnel.

You are correct sir, TP for you. The Red Sox are as smart of a front office as there is in MLB and to trade Lowell now would be straight up foolish. Im sure they have already sent out feelers and have a good read on what the market for him is but what if you trade him and Tex signs elsewhere. You can NEVER take a chance like that, Lowell will NOT be traded until they get Texiera, if they even do.

[Tr1boy]

smart but class less. Lowell is a human not a pilon my friends. honestly why would you do this to lowell??

You sign him to a 3 year deal ensuring him he will be your everyday 3b (because he hasn't not performed, he should be healed by 09) and now there is a chance he is not the everyday 3b because of the teix situation.

This doesn't give your team a good rep. Don't care if the world wants to play for the redsox, you can't just do this. (try to trade the guy at least)

Getting riled up a little but honestly the right thing to do if you are going after teix full force and committed to do doing it then is to commit to get rid of lowell. If we don't sign teix and i was lowell or youk i wouldn't feel grateful i still have my everyday job and ponder in what kind of organization i'am in

You know i thought manny, pedro or even that bum damon were being unreasonable acting up against the sox org(mainly due to financial reasons), but maybe they felt disrespected. Manny did after all ask the sox what they were going to do after this year, but they didn't care to respond

I love the redsox for life, but its getting a ridiculous how things are running up there

[Big_Matt34]

Thats how all teams work, its a business and Lowell knows that. You want to put the best team on the field and you will hurt feelings in the process, Lowell would probably be upset but he would get over it and say he loved his time here. They arent "doing anything" to him, they are trying to better than team and the fact is Texiera is much better than Lowell. If they sign Tex then they WILL try to trade Lowell but it would be stupid to do that beforehand, whats best for the team is more important than Lowell's feelings. It is not being classless, its being smart and prepared, as much as i like Lowell im not worried about how he feels as im a Red Sox fan and Tex makes the team better.

Say the Red Sox trade Lowell tomorrow and Texiera signs elsewhere, was it worth it so Lowell can feel comfortable? Obviously not, if we sign Tex that will be great and Lowell most likely gets traded as a result, unfortunate for him but thats how it works. The Red Sox are not the only team to work this way, you have to make tough decisions and can't be overly loyal at the expense of the team.

As for you saying you'd love to see Lars Anderson get a shot, just no. He is not MLB ready, he still cant pull the ball with much authority and is still developing power while having trouble with off-speed stuff. There is absolutely no reason to see him in 2009 outside of a possible short September stint.

[Mean Gerald Green]

I love the redsox for life, but its getting a ridiculous how things are running up there

Yea, I know what you mean...It sucks contending for the World Series every year and having one of the deepest organizations in the league. I'm thinking about becoming a Pirates fan.

[Redz]

I think the redsox should do the honorable thing right now and try to get lowell moving. I have been thinking and in no way can these three guys co exist together especially with the issue of sharing time. Also it is sort inefficient to pay three guys starters money yet one of each will sit down for at least 30 plus games in the year.

Its out in open the sox want teix, likelyhood teix is coming here and with youk bound to get a good long deal after teix, its a good thing to start shopping lowell now.

Worst case scenerio if we trade lowell(for a catcher hopefully or a really good utility guy, 4th outfielder or proscpects) and somehow teixera doesn't even come here, we still can sign other 3b/1b free agents or in my opinion i would love to give lars anderson a shot at first moving youk to 3b.

out of all this process i do feel bad for our 2007 world series mvp mike lowell

The only way anyone would take Lowell at this point is if it was in a similar deal to the one where he came to the Sox in the first place.  He's got to be considered damaged goods after last season and he's in the middle of a hefty contract.  They might have better luck moving him if he proves healthy, but who the hell's going to want him right now?

Maybe the Sox could throw Beckett in