BBD- Which size player will come back from the Offseason?!

[EJPLAYA]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

[wdleehi]

If Davis wants to be on this team beyond next season, he better be in draft shape. 

[Redz]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

I'm nodding my head yes, while I'm chomping down my 2nd piece of leftover  pizza.  What's wrong with this picture?

[winsomme]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

i don't think BBD is as out of shape as you are saying....he could lose 10-15 lbs, focus on toning and conditioning and be right where he needs to be.

i think the overweight stuff is totally overstated.

he is just a big guy and that plays to his advantage.

[jay_jay54]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

At this moment,im watching on Comcast,the "Celtic Rolling Rally",with Donny Marshall,GaryT.,with the team,organizaton,etc.,all the festivities.Donny made a interesting statement in reference to BBD...if he plans to become a big part of this team in the future,he need to stay in Boston during the off season,workout,stay around the Celtic trainers for the summer.With the season being longer for this team,his off season is shortened. It would be to his advantage to stay  in Boston,get into better shape.

[Casperian]

Anyone thought about the possibility that we might want BBD to be round?

Doc said several times that Baby`s lack of height would be compensated by his low center of gravity. But a low center of gravity alone doesn`t help him in the paint, otherwise you`d see more 6'5'' Centers. He needs his mass to be effective, imo. He`s pretty smart at how to use his body on defense.

Is there any statement by the coaching staff about Baby`s weight? Did they say he let himself down and didn`t take care of his weight?

I thought in a sport like Basketball, with millions on the line, a franchise like the Celtics would have the best medical staff imaginable, and that they would notice soon enough if a player becomes out of shape.

[EJPLAYA]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

I'm nodding my head yes, while I'm chomping down my 2nd piece of leftover  pizza.  What's wrong with this picture?

TP for that! (As I am eating chips and dips and drinking down a Mt. Dew...)

[EJPLAYA]

Anyone thought about the possibility that we might want BBD to be round?

Doc said several times that Baby`s lack of height would be compensated by his low center of gravity. But a low center of gravity alone doesn`t help him in the paint, otherwise you`d see more 6'5'' Centers. He needs his mass to be effective, imo. He`s pretty smart at how to use his body on defense.

Is there any statement by the coaching staff about Baby`s weight? Did they say he let himself down and didn`t take care of his weight?

I thought in a sport like Basketball, with millions on the line, a franchise like the Celtics would have the best medical staff imaginable, and that they would notice soon enough if a player becomes out of shape.

Look at photos of the kid earlier in the year vs. right now. He has put on fat this year. Plain and simple. There is no way on earth to state that this fat has made BBD better. If he had almost no body fat at all he would still be a very thick massive guy. That's how he's built. That will never be an issue for him. The fat however slows him down, reduces his jump, and makes him less effective. That isn't even debatable!

[Redz]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

I'm nodding my head yes, while I'm chomping down my 2nd piece of leftover  pizza.  What's wrong with this picture?

TP for that! (As I am eating chips and dips and drinking down a Mt. Dew...)

Right back at ya EJ.  When someone starts offering me the big bucks to stay in shape I'm there (or at least until I tear the crotch out of the last pair of my pants while squatting  )

[BballTim]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

i don't think BBD is as out of shape as you are saying....he could lose 10-15 lbs, focus on toning and conditioning and be right where he needs to be.

i think the overweight stuff is totally overstated.

he is just a big guy and that plays to his advantage.

  15 lbs overweight at the end of a season is pretty significant. He should have done a better job of staying in shape. Personally I think that he made a mistake going for a 2 year deal instead of 3 years if he wasn't going to commit more to keeping his weight down. If he's in shape for the 2008-2009 season, does anyone give him a multi-year deal for decent money and just hope that he stays in shape after he signs the contract? If he was in shape both next year and the year after he'd be in a better bargaining position when he's a free agent.

[ACF]

Hopefully not this kind:

[Robb]

The fat however slows him down, reduces his jump, and makes him less effective. That isn't even debatable!

Ok so fat makes you unable to jump as high, but do we know for sure that it makes him less effective?  I don't know if he got onto the court enough to say he was more effective in the early part of the season or less effective.

I'll put my trust in the team trainers.  He'll come into camp the way he needs to come into camp or else he'll go packing.  You're right though, listening to those trainers is what's going to keep him in the L.

[EJPLAYA]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

I'm nodding my head yes, while I'm chomping down my 2nd piece of leftover  pizza.  What's wrong with this picture?

TP for that! (As I am eating chips and dips and drinking down a Mt. Dew...)

Right back at ya EJ.  When someone starts offering me the big bucks to stay in shape I'm there (or at least until I tear the crotch out of the last pair of my pants while squatting  )

This subject is very close to home, because I have the same issue. I am not fat, but definitely not in "basketball shape" like when I was younger. I am turning 37 this summer and finding that if I don't drop a few of these extra pounds I am going to either blow my knees and ankles out, or have to stop playing ball. I have lost a step or two, a few inches of vertical, and a lot of quickness because of this. I have no one to blame for myself though. I find it hard to believe though that these guys with all the amenities that they have, and the fact that they don't have to do anything else to make a living, can't buckle down and set themselves for life. The Celtics can give them all the help they need, but they can't force them to take advantage of it.

[winsomme]

Anyone thought about the possibility that we might want BBD to be round?

Doc said several times that Baby`s lack of height would be compensated by his low center of gravity. But a low center of gravity alone doesn`t help him in the paint, otherwise you`d see more 6'5'' Centers. He needs his mass to be effective, imo. He`s pretty smart at how to use his body on defense.

Is there any statement by the coaching staff about Baby`s weight? Did they say he let himself down and didn`t take care of his weight?

I thought in a sport like Basketball, with millions on the line, a franchise like the Celtics would have the best medical staff imaginable, and that they would notice soon enough if a player becomes out of shape.

Look at photos of the kid earlier in the year vs. right now. He has put on fat this year. Plain and simple. There is no way on earth to state that this fat has made BBD better. If he had almost no body fat at all he would still be a very thick massive guy. That's how he's built. That will never be an issue for him. The fat however slows him down, reduces his jump, and makes him less effective. That isn't even debatable!

the thing that is debatable is how overweight he is and IMO you are way overstating it...

plus being in shape is not solely about weight or body fat. there is also cardiovascular fitness and that is where i think BBD should focus the most. knock off a few pounds, increase his stamina and he will be fine.

his combination of size, strength and quickness are what makes him so effective.

that coast to coast dunk in game 6 is simply something you are not going to see many guys his size doing...

[winsomme]

When BBD rolls back into town for next year, assuming he isn't shipped out in a trade,  which BBD are we going to see?! The BBD that worked out for the Celtics pre-draft that was (for him) slim and trim, or the current fat BBD that let himself go back to his former pudgy self over this year?

You will know everything you need to know about his work ethic by training camp. Everything you will need to know about whether he will be a few years and out of the league due to his weight issues, or whether he will realize the potential he has and hit the weight room/treadmill hard and push away that plateful of chicken wings.

It is up to you BBD. Your career may very well depend on the choices you make this summer...

i don't think BBD is as out of shape as you are saying....he could lose 10-15 lbs, focus on toning and conditioning and be right where he needs to be.

i think the overweight stuff is totally overstated.

he is just a big guy and that plays to his advantage.

  15 lbs overweight at the end of a season is pretty significant. He should have done a better job of staying in shape. Personally I think that he made a mistake going for a 2 year deal instead of 3 years if he wasn't going to commit more to keeping his weight down. If he's in shape for the 2008-2009 season, does anyone give him a multi-year deal for decent money and just hope that he stays in shape after he signs the contract? If he was in shape both next year and the year after he'd be in a better bargaining position when he's a free agent.

depends on the player.

10-15 lbs on a PG is a lot....on BBD not so much...