Paul Pierce's maturity / gang signs? (merged)

[EJPLAYA]

unless u were on or around the court and could see, as well as hear, what was being said....it is purely speculation to imply it was a gang sign and should not be considered fact unless it is proven.  i think paul deserves more respect from his fans/supporters.

Be clear about what I posted. I said all along I was not aware whether it was or it wasn't, but that another poster seemed pretty sure that it was. Enough so to name the gang it was a sign from. That may or may not be true, but the way that he came down flashing what he did had nothing to do with 3rd game. That was clear. I rewound it and watched again because it seemed odd the way he was holding his hand out.

I will show PP respect if and when I think he deserves it. If he is going to act like a fool following Horford to his bench then he doesn't. They just got their tails handed to them and he is more worried about his personal ego than the team. THAT is not worthy of respect either.

I do not look at any of these guys out there as anything other than entertainers. No one knows these guys individually, good or bad. The only thing that they have earned is that big fat check that they get for keeping us entertained. Some would question that.  To imply these guys are the pillar of society because they are athletic is making quite a leap. Some of them are and some of them aren't. Their talent on the court doesn't dictate that.

So you're saying Paul Pierce might be a gang member because he's an NBA player??

Man, we've really hit rock bottom here.

How you can possibly think from what I said that I think he might be a gang member because he is an NBA player?! I have said in multiple posts that I do NOT think he is a gang member and that I'm not sure that he made a gang sign, but that it looked like he was stating something with the gesture. Another poster pulled from another web site of known gang signals a picture looking just like what I saw. From where he grew up I would guess he knows what gang signs are and I am putting two and two together as a possibility. If he did it I am highly upset and disappointed. If he didn't make a gang signal he still should have kept his tail at his own bench instead of trying to act like a tough guy. The time to be tough was the 48 minutes prior where the Hawks proceeded to hand the C's their tails.

[Redz]

i guess jose calderon is a gangbanger too!

that's genius. and that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw the op's picture. tp for you.

thanks for the tp maestro

While I'm not buying into some hidden message behind Pierce's OK 3 finger thingy, I'm pretty sure Calderon's 3 finger gesture here is celebrating a 3 pointer made - same can't be said of Pierce's.

[Bahku]

I think if it was a gang sign, (and I'd like to hear Paul's comment on it first), that it was an emotional mistake made in the heat of battle. A poor choice, if it was, but we've all made similar errors when our emotions have gotten the best of us. I'll let it play out a bit more before I decide whether or not it's deserving of punishment.

[nickagneta]

The only person who knows what Paul was doing with his hands at that time was Paul Pierce. Until I see something quoting Pierce regarding what he did or did not gesture, it was just an inconsequential and meaningless hand gesture, movement, signal or anything else anyone wants to call it.

[dark_lord]

i guess jose calderon is a gangbanger too!

that's genius. and that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw the op's picture. tp for you.

thanks for the tp maestro

While I'm not buying into some hidden message behind Pierce's OK 3 finger thingy, I'm pretty sure Calderon's 3 finger gesture here is celebrating a 3 pointer made - same can't be said of Pierce's.

red, as someone who posts pics for sarcasm purposes, i am surprised u didnt pick up on the sarcasm of the calderon pic   it happens time-to-time i suppose.

[Chief]

unless u were on or around the court and could see, as well as hear, what was being said....it is purely speculation to imply it was a gang sign and should not be considered fact unless it is proven.  i think paul deserves more respect from his fans/supporters.

Be clear about what I posted. I said all along I was not aware whether it was or it wasn't, but that another poster seemed pretty sure that it was. Enough so to name the gang it was a sign from. That may or may not be true, but the way that he came down flashing what he did had nothing to do with 3rd game. That was clear. I rewound it and watched again because it seemed odd the way he was holding his hand out.

I will show PP respect if and when I think he deserves it. If he is going to act like a fool following Horford to his bench then he doesn't. They just got their tails handed to them and he is more worried about his personal ego than the team. THAT is not worthy of respect either.

I do not look at any of these guys out there as anything other than entertainers. No one knows these guys individually, good or bad. The only thing that they have earned is that big fat check that they get for keeping us entertained. Some would question that.  To imply these guys are the pillar of society because they are athletic is making quite a leap. Some of them are and some of them aren't. Their talent on the court doesn't dictate that.

So you're saying Paul Pierce might be a gang member because he's an NBA player??

Man, we've really hit rock bottom here.

How you can possibly think from what I said that I think he might be a gang member because he is an NBA player?! I have said in multiple posts that I do NOT think he is a gang member and that I'm not sure that he made a gang sign, but that it looked like he was stating something with the gesture. Another poster pulled from another web site of known gang signals a picture looking just like what I saw. From where he grew up I would guess he knows what gang signs are and I am putting two and two together as a possibility. If he did it I am highly upset and disappointed. If he didn't make a gang signal he still should have kept his tail at his own bench instead of trying to act like a tough guy. The time to be tough was the 48 minutes prior where the Hawks proceeded to hand the C's their tails.

EJ, I 100% disagreed with your whole Sam Cassell argument. But I really respect that you stuck to your guns for what seemed like a 25 page thread. As for this issue, I 100% agree with you.

[Knox Harrington]

unless u were on or around the court and could see, as well as hear, what was being said....it is purely speculation to imply it was a gang sign and should not be considered fact unless it is proven.  i think paul deserves more respect from his fans/supporters.

Be clear about what I posted. I said all along I was not aware whether it was or it wasn't, but that another poster seemed pretty sure that it was. Enough so to name the gang it was a sign from. That may or may not be true, but the way that he came down flashing what he did had nothing to do with 3rd game. That was clear. I rewound it and watched again because it seemed odd the way he was holding his hand out.

I will show PP respect if and when I think he deserves it. If he is going to act like a fool following Horford to his bench then he doesn't. They just got their tails handed to them and he is more worried about his personal ego than the team. THAT is not worthy of respect either.

I do not look at any of these guys out there as anything other than entertainers. No one knows these guys individually, good or bad. The only thing that they have earned is that big fat check that they get for keeping us entertained. Some would question that.  To imply these guys are the pillar of society because they are athletic is making quite a leap. Some of them are and some of them aren't. Their talent on the court doesn't dictate that.

So you're saying Paul Pierce might be a gang member because he's an NBA player??

Man, we've really hit rock bottom here.

How you can possibly think from what I said that I think he might be a gang member because he is an NBA player?! I have said in multiple posts that I do NOT think he is a gang member and that I'm not sure that he made a gang sign, but that it looked like he was stating something with the gesture. Another poster pulled from another web site of known gang signals a picture looking just like what I saw. From where he grew up I would guess he knows what gang signs are and I am putting two and two together as a possibility. If he did it I am highly upset and disappointed. If he didn't make a gang signal he still should have kept his tail at his own bench instead of trying to act like a tough guy. The time to be tough was the 48 minutes prior where the Hawks proceeded to hand the C's their tails.

Brian Scalabrine's from Long Beach.  I guess he'll be throwing gang signs next.

[Redz]

Maybe he should have just used his middle finger and taken all the mystery out of it 

[dark_lord]

Maybe he should have just used his middle finger and taken all the mystery out of it 

by far the best post in the thread.  as always, great job red

[Andrew Celtic Nation]

This thread is an embarassment. Paul has had enough misfortune with thugs in his life to even consider using a gang sign. He knows the reprocussions. On the Horford subject, Mike Gorman made a comment in the game 2 blowout that Al was taunting the Celtics bench after scoring in the 3rd quarter to cut the lead to 17. Ray immediately came down the other end and drained a 3. I don't mind emotion but don't show up the other team when you guys are getting waxed.

[JSD]

The guy's human, like the rest of us ... and we as humans, never finish the process of maturing, and never stop making stupid mistakes. Paul is going to fall victim to imperfections as much as the rest of us, and we should give him at least a little of the understanding that we would hope for ourselves.

I agree 100% with your statement, but that wasn't what this thread was about. It was about the creator stating he was so proud of PP for being so mature. What he did was NOT mature. I don't write off PP for making a stupid mistake, but disagree wholeheartedly that his actions were the definition of maturity.

I lumped the Horford incident in with the press conference and came to the conclusion that Paul has made progress in maturity.

Are discussion is well documented in this thread and my initial post is still very much accessible so there is no reason to bring me up again and put words in my message box 

[JSD]

i guess jose calderon is a gangbanger too!

HAHAHAHA TP for you DArk! I almost fell out of my chair

[Redz]

i guess jose calderon is a gangbanger too!

that's genius. and that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw the op's picture. tp for you.

thanks for the tp maestro

While I'm not buying into some hidden message behind Pierce's OK 3 finger thingy, I'm pretty sure Calderon's 3 finger gesture here is celebrating a 3 pointer made - same can't be said of Pierce's.

red, as someone who posts pics for sarcasm purposes, i am surprised u didnt pick up on the sarcasm of the calderon pic   it happens time-to-time i suppose.

derr...sorry

seem to be on both sides of missing the sarcasm today.

night night from redzville

[Trifecta]

Why when Pierce puts up 3 fingers must you all think he's throwing a gang sign? It doesn't make any sense, think it over. If you think about the other things he could have been implying, it makes a whole lot of sense. He was reminding Horford that he needs "3" more wins. Here's my view on it:

I think I heard this story the other day how Pierce and others were saying to the crowd at home in Boston that they (ATL) won't be back (at the Garden). And that Horford and the rest of the team caught word of it, and if you watch the tape it looks like Horford is saying to Pierce something along the lines of, "we're comin BACK"..as in they are coming back to Boston because they just sealed the game 3 victory. And in return, Pierce got a little upset and reminded Horford that he needs "3" wins before he can start talking.

[Andy Jick]

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