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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #495 on: July 06, 2024, 11:50:32 AM »

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Caleb Martin to the Sixers. That's a really nice pickup for them.
He should fire his agent. Seems like he misread this market and passed up an extra 30 mil from the Heat. Sadly for him, he wasn?t a free agent after the previous year. He would have cashed in with his epic playoff performance.

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #496 on: July 06, 2024, 11:53:17 AM »

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Caleb Martin to the Sixers. That's a really nice pickup for them.

Yeah, they've done a good job filling out the team after signing PG.



I hate to do it, but I have to give Darryl Morey an A for the roster maneuvers he was able to make this off-season. A few weeks ago when there were rumors circulating that Paul George wouldn't consider Philly as an option, things were looking pretty bleak for them. I assumed they'd have to over pay mediocre role players like KCP or Kyle Anderson to fill out their roster. Not only were they able to sign George, but did a great jobs of patching together a pretty good supporting cast at a reasonable cost. I still think they'll look to make more moves during the season using the LAC picks they acquired in the Harden deal, which now look like they're going to have some good value.

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #497 on: July 06, 2024, 12:02:15 PM »

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Caleb Martin to the Sixers. That's a really nice pickup for them.

Yeah, they've done a good job filling out the team after signing PG.



I hate to do it, but I have to give Darryl Morey an A for the roster maneuvers he was able to make this off-season. A few weeks ago when there were rumors circulating that Paul George wouldn't consider Philly as an option, things were looking pretty bleak for them. I assumed they'd have to over pay mediocre role players like KCP or Kyle Anderson to fill out their roster. Not only were they able to sign George, but did a great jobs of patching together a pretty good supporting cast at a reasonable cost. I still think they'll look to make more moves during the season using the LAC picks they acquired in the Harden deal, which now look like they're going to have some good value.
I'm not sure Paul George moves the needle more than James Harden, to be honest, but I think the team looks perfectly primed for the Philadelphia playoff special: the second-round exit.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #498 on: July 06, 2024, 12:12:36 PM »

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Caleb Martin to the Sixers. That's a really nice pickup for them.

Yeah, they've done a good job filling out the team after signing PG.



I hate to do it, but I have to give Darryl Morey an A for the roster maneuvers he was able to make this off-season. A few weeks ago when there were rumors circulating that Paul George wouldn't consider Philly as an option, things were looking pretty bleak for them. I assumed they'd have to over pay mediocre role players like KCP or Kyle Anderson to fill out their roster. Not only were they able to sign George, but did a great jobs of patching together a pretty good supporting cast at a reasonable cost. I still think they'll look to make more moves during the season using the LAC picks they acquired in the Harden deal, which now look like they're going to have some good value.
I'm not sure Paul George moves the needle more than James Harden, to be honest, but I think the team looks perfectly primed for the Philadelphia playoff special: the second-round exit.


Second round exit sounds about right to me. Like I said, they probably had their best case scenario off-season, but I still view Boston and New York as hovering pretty significantly over all other eastern conference teams at this point.

Even if they are able to turn those LAC picks into another impact player, I think this teams window in which they can do anything of significance is 2-3 years given the fact that PG is now in his mid thirties and Embiid seems to be deteriorating physically before our eyes. Frankly, they're lucky to still have some relevance after all the blunders the franchise had made for the better part of a decade: Simmons, Fultz, trading Mikal Bridges, letting Butler walker, the list goes on...

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #499 on: July 06, 2024, 12:22:17 PM »

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So who would win in a hypothetical NYK vs Sixers playoff series now?

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #500 on: July 06, 2024, 12:23:17 PM »

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Caleb Martin to the Sixers. That's a really nice pickup for them.

Yeah, they've done a good job filling out the team after signing PG.



I hate to do it, but I have to give Darryl Morey an A for the roster maneuvers he was able to make this off-season. A few weeks ago when there were rumors circulating that Paul George wouldn't consider Philly as an option, things were looking pretty bleak for them. I assumed they'd have to over pay mediocre role players like KCP or Kyle Anderson to fill out their roster. Not only were they able to sign George, but did a great jobs of patching together a pretty good supporting cast at a reasonable cost. I still think they'll look to make more moves during the season using the LAC picks they acquired in the Harden deal, which now look like they're going to have some good value.
I'm not sure Paul George moves the needle more than James Harden, to be honest, but I think the team looks perfectly primed for the Philadelphia playoff special: the second-round exit.


Second round exit sounds about right to me. Like I said, they probably had their best case scenario off-season, but I still view Boston and New York as hovering pretty significantly over all other eastern conference teams at this point.

Even if they are able to turn those LAC picks into another impact player, I think this teams window in which they can do anything of significance is 2-3 years given the fact that PG is now in his mid thirties and Embiid seems to be deteriorating physically before our eyes. Frankly, they're lucky to still have some relevance after all the blunders the franchise had made for the better part of a decade: Simmons, Fultz, trading Mikal Bridges, letting Butler walker, the list goes on...

Yeah, he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets, but Embiid is a generational talent and the only reason Philadelphia is at all relevant.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #501 on: July 06, 2024, 12:31:42 PM »

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So who would win in a hypothetical NYK vs Sixers playoff series now?

It's close. Assuming everyone is healthy, I'd probably still lean New York. I still think they have more depth and more "tough guys/mental toughness" than the Sixers. And the Knicks added Bridges too who should help.

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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #502 on: July 06, 2024, 12:45:10 PM »

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So who would win in a hypothetical NYK vs Sixers playoff series now?

It's close. Assuming everyone is healthy, I'd probably still lean New York. I still think they have more depth and more "tough guys/mental toughness" than the Sixers. And the Knicks added Bridges too who should help.

I think it would be darn close as well. If Embiid is healthy, I give the slight edge to the Sixers. Losing Hartenstein really hurts the Knicks ability to match up in the middle.

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #503 on: July 06, 2024, 12:52:38 PM »

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Getting the 1 seed is looking very important for next season. Let the 76ers and Knicks beat each other or the Bucks up in the 2nd round while the Celtics play the Pacers/Heat/etc.

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #504 on: July 06, 2024, 01:06:04 PM »

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The Warriors and Hield agreed on a four-year contract worth up to $38 million, league sources told HoopsHype.

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Hield will earn a guaranteed $18 million in the first two years of the deal, a partially guaranteed $3 million in the third year, and has a player option in the fourth year of the agreement, as ESPN?s Adrian Wojnarowski reported.

So Buddy is only getting $9.5mil per year. Only two years guaranteed. That is a bargain deal for GSW.

That Hield deal is surprising. I get that he has his deficiencies, but he is one of the league's best high volume 3pt shooters and he is incredibly durable. We're all worried about Hauser getting $15M+/yr and a guy like Hield isn't even getting the MLE. Maybe those Joe Harris/Duncan Robinson type contracts are a thing of the past.
I just love that the Fakers lost out again, first Klay and now Buddy. Remarkable that good players don?t want to play with LBJ and AD, or maybe the LAL circus is just too much.

LeBron taking the absolute max + Bronny's $2m per year deal has put them just barely over the 2nd apron. And it's rumored that other teams know this and are playing hardball in terms of helping them gain flexibility.

So they can't receive sign-and-traded players, can't aggregate salaries for trades,  no MLE etc.

LeBonds has screwed that organization hard.

But hey, they are still on the ESPN front page every day and that's what counts!

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #505 on: July 06, 2024, 01:25:10 PM »

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The Warriors and Hield agreed on a four-year contract worth up to $38 million, league sources told HoopsHype.

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Hield will earn a guaranteed $18 million in the first two years of the deal, a partially guaranteed $3 million in the third year, and has a player option in the fourth year of the agreement, as ESPN?s Adrian Wojnarowski reported.

So Buddy is only getting $9.5mil per year. Only two years guaranteed. That is a bargain deal for GSW.

That Hield deal is surprising. I get that he has his deficiencies, but he is one of the league's best high volume 3pt shooters and he is incredibly durable. We're all worried about Hauser getting $15M+/yr and a guy like Hield isn't even getting the MLE. Maybe those Joe Harris/Duncan Robinson type contracts are a thing of the past.
I just love that the Fakers lost out again, first Klay and now Buddy. Remarkable that good players don?t want to play with LBJ and AD, or maybe the LAL circus is just too much.

LeBron taking the absolute max + Bronny's $2m per year deal has put them just barely over the 2nd apron. And it's rumored that other teams know this and are playing hardball in terms of helping them gain flexibility.

So they can't receive sign-and-traded players, can't aggregate salaries for trades,  no MLE etc.

LeBonds has screwed that organization hard.

But hey, they are still on the ESPN front page every day and that's what counts!


On top of that Lebron also got a ton of good publicity for reportedly offering to take a paycut that he never took in the end, only if the Lakers could get one of a short list of free agents that realistically they did not have much of a shot at getting.

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« Reply #506 on: July 06, 2024, 02:06:44 PM »

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The Warriors and Hield agreed on a four-year contract worth up to $38 million, league sources told HoopsHype.

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Hield will earn a guaranteed $18 million in the first two years of the deal, a partially guaranteed $3 million in the third year, and has a player option in the fourth year of the agreement, as ESPN?s Adrian Wojnarowski reported.

So Buddy is only getting $9.5mil per year. Only two years guaranteed. That is a bargain deal for GSW.

That Hield deal is surprising. I get that he has his deficiencies, but he is one of the league's best high volume 3pt shooters and he is incredibly durable. We're all worried about Hauser getting $15M+/yr and a guy like Hield isn't even getting the MLE. Maybe those Joe Harris/Duncan Robinson type contracts are a thing of the past.
I just love that the Fakers lost out again, first Klay and now Buddy. Remarkable that good players don?t want to play with LBJ and AD, or maybe the LAL circus is just too much.

LeBron taking the absolute max + Bronny's $2m per year deal has put them just barely over the 2nd apron. And it's rumored that other teams know this and are playing hardball in terms of helping them gain flexibility.

So they can't receive sign-and-traded players, can't aggregate salaries for trades,  no MLE etc.

LeBonds has screwed that organization hard.

But hey, they are still on the ESPN front page every day and that's what counts!


On top of that Lebron also got a ton of good publicity for reportedly offering to take a paycut that he never took in the end, only if the Lakers could get one of a short list of free agents that realistically they did not have much of a shot at getting.

Funny how he said he would consider taking a 20M+ paycut but ultimately it sounds like he isn't even gonna take a 2M paycut here lol. Then they draft Bronny, sign Reddick as coach, both of them get lucrative deals. Yeah I'm just saying, if they get off to a shaky start I think things could get ugly there fast.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #507 on: July 06, 2024, 02:10:28 PM »

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The Warriors and Hield agreed on a four-year contract worth up to $38 million, league sources told HoopsHype.

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Hield will earn a guaranteed $18 million in the first two years of the deal, a partially guaranteed $3 million in the third year, and has a player option in the fourth year of the agreement, as ESPN?s Adrian Wojnarowski reported.

So Buddy is only getting $9.5mil per year. Only two years guaranteed. That is a bargain deal for GSW.

That Hield deal is surprising. I get that he has his deficiencies, but he is one of the league's best high volume 3pt shooters and he is incredibly durable. We're all worried about Hauser getting $15M+/yr and a guy like Hield isn't even getting the MLE. Maybe those Joe Harris/Duncan Robinson type contracts are a thing of the past.
I just love that the Fakers lost out again, first Klay and now Buddy. Remarkable that good players don?t want to play with LBJ and AD, or maybe the LAL circus is just too much.

LeBron taking the absolute max + Bronny's $2m per year deal has put them just barely over the 2nd apron. And it's rumored that other teams know this and are playing hardball in terms of helping them gain flexibility.

So they can't receive sign-and-traded players, can't aggregate salaries for trades,  no MLE etc.

LeBonds has screwed that organization hard.

But hey, they are still on the ESPN front page every day and that's what counts!


On top of that Lebron also got a ton of good publicity for reportedly offering to take a paycut that he never took in the end, only if the Lakers could get one of a short list of free agents that realistically they did not have much of a shot at getting.

Funny how he said he would consider taking a 20M+ paycut but ultimately it sounds like he isn't even gonna take a 2M paycut here lol. Then they draft Bronny, sign Reddick as coach, both of them get lucrative deals. Yeah I'm just saying, if they get off to a shaky start I think things could get ugly there fast.

Has LeBron actually signed the deal?  Couldn't there be time for the Lakers to show him how a $2MM paycut will help them down the line?

Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #508 on: July 06, 2024, 02:13:58 PM »

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The Warriors and Hield agreed on a four-year contract worth up to $38 million, league sources told HoopsHype.

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Hield will earn a guaranteed $18 million in the first two years of the deal, a partially guaranteed $3 million in the third year, and has a player option in the fourth year of the agreement, as ESPN?s Adrian Wojnarowski reported.

So Buddy is only getting $9.5mil per year. Only two years guaranteed. That is a bargain deal for GSW.

That Hield deal is surprising. I get that he has his deficiencies, but he is one of the league's best high volume 3pt shooters and he is incredibly durable. We're all worried about Hauser getting $15M+/yr and a guy like Hield isn't even getting the MLE. Maybe those Joe Harris/Duncan Robinson type contracts are a thing of the past.
I just love that the Fakers lost out again, first Klay and now Buddy. Remarkable that good players don?t want to play with LBJ and AD, or maybe the LAL circus is just too much.

LeBron taking the absolute max + Bronny's $2m per year deal has put them just barely over the 2nd apron. And it's rumored that other teams know this and are playing hardball in terms of helping them gain flexibility.

So they can't receive sign-and-traded players, can't aggregate salaries for trades,  no MLE etc.

LeBonds has screwed that organization hard.

But hey, they are still on the ESPN front page every day and that's what counts!


On top of that Lebron also got a ton of good publicity for reportedly offering to take a paycut that he never took in the end, only if the Lakers could get one of a short list of free agents that realistically they did not have much of a shot at getting.

Funny how he said he would consider taking a 20M+ paycut but ultimately it sounds like he isn't even gonna take a 2M paycut here lol. Then they draft Bronny, sign Reddick as coach, both of them get lucrative deals. Yeah I'm just saying, if they get off to a shaky start I think things could get ugly there fast.

Has LeBron actually signed the deal?  Couldn't there be time for the Lakers to show him how a $2MM paycut will help them down the line?

I'm not sure if he has officially. But I mean I can't imagine they didn't ask him about it. It's on the news too, Lebron definitely is aware.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 2024
« Reply #509 on: July 06, 2024, 02:16:37 PM »

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Getting the 1 seed is looking very important for next season. Let the 76ers and Knicks beat each other or the Bucks up in the 2nd round while the Celtics play the Pacers/Heat/etc.

Don't think we can avoid the Bucks if the 2/3/4 order is Knicks/76ers/Bucks. Not sure if we can secure the #1 seed next year too with the significant improvements the East has gotten this offseason.

Heat still has Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier. Pacers still look solid. Orlando Magic is also pretty decent too.


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