NBA Off Season 2022

[Birdman]

James time with Lakers has been a failure..yes he won a title but that was in that bubble which was a joke..twice he miss playoffs & got beat in 1st round

[Vermont Green]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

[Csfan1984]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

What if Nets counter that with LeBron and Westbrook for KD and Irving?

Would Lakers do that?

[slamtheking]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

What if Nets counter that with LeBron and Westbrook for KD and Irving?

Would Lakers do that?

this idea is poison to my eyes.  the thought of making the Lakers better in any way, shape or form is just unfathomable here. 

[footey]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

[slamtheking]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

[Moranis]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters. 

[footey]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

Of course they care if it’s the Lakers. The owners are also fans.

[Neurotic Guy]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

I would guess the opposite.  I don’t think there is a Celtics fan alive who doesn’t care about 17 v. 17.  Kind of ridiculous to suggest they don’t care about that. I’d imagine that among the first things Wyc would have said if the Cs won last month would have been that the Celtics have won more than any other franchise.  Can’t say that if the Lakers win next year.

Whether they’d make a direction changing move in part to block the Lakers from getting KD… beats me. But I would guess it might be a back of the mind factor, a tie-breaker.

[Goldstar88]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

Yeah, I’m sure the owners have no ego at all and they could care less if their team has the most titles of all time or not… 

[Moranis]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

Of course they care if it’s the Lakers. The owners are also fans.

Why?  History makes no difference.  The Lakers are pretty clearly the greatest franchise anyway if those things actually matter, which they don't. 

Do people even know who has the most NFL championships (not Superbowls, but NFL championships)?  It is the Packers with 13.  The Bears are 2nd with 9.  Giants have 8 and the the Pats and Steelers have 6.  The Commanders, Bears, and Niners all have 5.  The Browns and Lions have been abject failures in the Superbowl era, yet are both in the group of teams that have won 4 titles (along with the Rams, Colts, and Eagles). 

I assume everyone knows the Yankees have the most MLB championships (because they have so many more than anyone else), but do you know who is 2nd (it is the Cardinals)?  Similarly I assume everyone knows the Canadiens have the most NHL championships despite the fact they haven't won one since 1993 and have only won 2 since the 70's.  But does anyone really know who is 2nd?  It is the Maple Leafs and they haven't won a title since 1967.  The Red Wings have the 3rd most wins and 2nd most SC appearances.  Coincidentally the Bruins have the most 2nd place finishes with 14 (their 6 wins is tied with the Blackhawks at 4th all time). 

[RockinRyA]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

Of course they care if it’s the Lakers. The owners are also fans.

Why?  History makes no difference.  The Lakers are pretty clearly the greatest franchise anyway if those things actually matter, which they don't. 

Do people even know who has the most NFL championships (not Superbowls, but NFL championships)?  It is the Packers with 13.  The Bears are 2nd with 9.  Giants have 8 and the the Pats and Steelers have 6.  The Commanders, Bears, and Niners all have 5.  The Browns and Lions have been abject failures in the Superbowl era, yet are both in the group of teams that have won 4 titles (along with the Rams, Colts, and Eagles). 

I assume everyone knows the Yankees have the most MLB championships (because they have so many more than anyone else), but do you know who is 2nd (it is the Cardinals)?  Similarly I assume everyone knows the Canadiens have the most NHL championships despite the fact they haven't won one since 1993 and have only won 2 since the 70's.  But does anyone really know who is 2nd?  It is the Maple Leafs and they haven't won a title since 1967.  The Red Wings have the 3rd most wins and 2nd most SC appearances.  Coincidentally the Bruins have the most 2nd place finishes with 14 (their 6 wins is tied with the Blackhawks at 4th all time).

Teams are very reluctant to help rivals, championship count or not.

[Moranis]

I think the Lakers should trade Davis and Westbrook for Durant and Kyrie.  That would be a formidable big 3 for the Lakers.  Better probably than the Harden-Durant-Kyrie threesome that the Nets once had.  It would also give the Nets something to build around (Davis).  It won't happen though, I know.

I wouldn't sell the Lakers short though.  Health is a big IF but if they can keep everyone reasonably healthy, LeBron-Davis-Westbrook can be a good team in my opinion.  That group was only available for 21 games together last season.  Only 1 game and 17 minutes post all star.  If my sorting is correct, they were 11-10 in the 21 games that all 3 played together (much better than the 22-39 they were in the other games).  That is not enough for a group to learn how to play together.  I understand that there are very strong personalities involved here but there is also a lot of talent.  All they have to do is realize that they all want the same thing.  How hard should that be?  In the end, health will probably be their downfall.  It seems unlikely that LeBron and Davis can hold up.

If Celtic ownership caught wind of this negotiation it could incentivize them to trade for KD and offer package around Brown. Goal is not only to win title but to prevent Lakers from having more. Don’t think the Nets are unaware of this sentiment.

I don't get the impression C's ownership and management are as concerned with the title count between the franchises as the fans are.  Shame on Brad if he blows up the team based on that philosophy and shame on Brooklyn for giving up Durant for that duo.  that'd be a move just for the sake of making a move

I'm pretty certain Boston ownership doesn't actually care who wins title if it isn't them.  And frankly why should they?  The championships of only 1 team matters.

Of course they care if it’s the Lakers. The owners are also fans.

Why?  History makes no difference.  The Lakers are pretty clearly the greatest franchise anyway if those things actually matter, which they don't. 

Do people even know who has the most NFL championships (not Superbowls, but NFL championships)?  It is the Packers with 13.  The Bears are 2nd with 9.  Giants have 8 and the the Pats and Steelers have 6.  The Commanders, Bears, and Niners all have 5.  The Browns and Lions have been abject failures in the Superbowl era, yet are both in the group of teams that have won 4 titles (along with the Rams, Colts, and Eagles). 

I assume everyone knows the Yankees have the most MLB championships (because they have so many more than anyone else), but do you know who is 2nd (it is the Cardinals)?  Similarly I assume everyone knows the Canadiens have the most NHL championships despite the fact they haven't won one since 1993 and have only won 2 since the 70's.  But does anyone really know who is 2nd?  It is the Maple Leafs and they haven't won a title since 1967.  The Red Wings have the 3rd most wins and 2nd most SC appearances.  Coincidentally the Bruins have the most 2nd place finishes with 14 (their 6 wins is tied with the Blackhawks at 4th all time).

Teams are very reluctant to help rivals, championship count or not.

Well you don't want to help someone get better who you would then have to go through in the process.  That isn't about history though, that is about the here and now. 

[Roy H.]

It probably depends on the individual ownership group, but of course some owners hate losing to their rivals.  Many are competitive and ego-driven.

[nickagneta]

Many seasons this ownership group has stifled this team's chances to win it all because they didn't want to spend the money. Last year and possibly this year are two prime examples.

An ownership group so concentrated on making money and prioritizes that over winning titles, to me, means they most probably don't care a hoot about how many titles the Lakers have.