An exciting trade idea with GSW:
BOS In: Wiseman, Kuminga, Wiggins
GSW In: Brown, R. Williams, Schröder
Makes GSW better today and makes BOS better tomorrow if Wiseman and Kuminga live up to expectations (yet makes GSW also better tomorrow if Wiseman and Kuminga do NOT live up to expectations). A gamble, of course, but one probably worth taking if they were open to it.
Solid starting five with growing pains among our youthful bench, but a great veteran presence in Horford guiding them:
Smart/Pritchard
Richardson/Langford
Wiggins/Kuminga
Tatum/G. Williams
Wiseman/Horford
Come the off-season, see if there’s a way to turn Wiggins and picks into Beal. We’ll then be on our merry way, particularly if Kuminga and Wiseman live up to expectations. This eight-man rotation, with Smart as 6MOTY, is exciting to imagine:
Beal/Smart
Richardson/Smart
Tatum/Kuminga
G. Williams/Horford
Wiseman/Horford
Round out the roster:
MLE 4/5
Pritchard
Langford
Nesmith
2022 1st (hopefully a solid PG prospect)
Begarin and/or 2022 2nd (cheap 14th/15th men)
Check out Wiseman’s jersey in his profile pic on Wiki:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wiseman
Hopefully Kuminga will be ready to start come 2023-2024, and hopefully we have a traditional pass-first PG by that point:
1. Traditional PG (2022 1st if we’re lucky)/Smart and/or Pritchard
2. Beal/Smart and/or Langford
3. Kuminga/Richardson and/or Nesmith
4. Tatum/G. Williams
5. Wiseman/Horford on a cheap contract
Bro.
Warriors are going to win another championship, even WITHOUT Klay back.
THAT is how good they are this season.
Why would they mess with that by trading the farm.
Just, why?
Brown is better/younger than Wiggins and Schröder/Timelord brings more to them today than Wiseman/Kuminga do today. Basically, if GSW is not convinced that Wiseman/Kuminga will live up to expectations, this makes a lot of sense. Especially if we make it clear that Schröder is going to Phoenix if not GSW (Schröder is exactly what could push the Suns past the Warriors, and would provide an outlet for load management for CP3 before the 2nd round of the playoffs).
and you just made the case why it's a bad trade for the C's. Brown is better than Wiggins and Schroder/TL are better than W/K. Wiggins isn't a winner and he doesn't play defense (certainly not on Jaylen's level) so he'll be less effective next to Tatum. The other two are going to need 2-3 more years to develop (at a minimum and that's if they develop at all) which would be when Tatum will be ready to depart in free agency because the team punted 3 years of his career on players that need development rather than bringing in established talent that would help win games
As a result of clearly being nowhere near title contention today, we value the future like the GSW values the present today (Steph, Klay and Dray are approaching their mid-30s), so it’s really win-win if all goes according to the desires of both sides. It’s only a bad trade for us if Wiseman AND Kuminga both do not live up to expectations down the road (and still a good trade for GSW regardless of what happens with those two in the future). If they live up to expectations, we’ve turned Brown into two comparable talents around age 20 at different positions who will be more complimentary to Tatum than Brown (there’s a thread in the main forum showing the data that supports Tatum is superior to Brown, and both Tatum and the team perform better when Brown is hurt versus available).
In terms of bringing in established talent to keep Tatum happy, that’s where Wiggins + picks for Beal comes into play. That’s giving him his BFF, his equivalent to Durant getting his BFF. In addition, Smart, Richardson and Horford are established players who can contribute, and we are increasingly seeing that may apply to Grant soon too.
In 2-3 years if one of Wiseman and Kuminga pan out, and we acquire Beal to be Tatum’s Robin, we’re in the NBA Finals going for the title.
Or we can keep hoping Brown magically becomes Scottie Pippen and Tatum magically becomes Michael Jordan. Better known as JKJB…
your whole strategy is one big IF. every trade idea you post. Always fascinated with finding the next bright shiny new thing that you expect to pan out better than can reasonably be expected rather than figuring out what might work in practicality.
I'm not shipping out JB for an IF situation. If JB is traded, it's to bring in someone better, not worse pieces or pieces that need years to develop into someone you hope will be as good as JB who we already have. Your expectation that Beal can be had for draft picks and Wiggins (or whatever parts we have at the time) is delusional. If Beal is moved, Washington is blowing it up and looking for good young players (none of ours have established themselves as a solid rotational player with high potential) and high draft picks (which ours won't be -- adding Beal to Tatum and JB (or some other all-star that JB is traded for) will all be late picks in the 20's that won't interest a rebuilding team).
We don't really have the assets to trade for an all-star other than the J's. This is the one thing Danny did that aggravated me is having so many assets built up that were squandered over the last few years - starting with the 2016 draft with 8 picks basically p---ed away except for Jaylen.
