Enes Kanter to Celtics

[Th3M2n]

Dominant big is moving the post....no one is asking for a dominant big....just baskeball size players. Is that too much to ask?

Pretty sure we’ve got 3 of them signed right now

[BringToughnessBack]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

[Ogaju]

Why just a one year deal plus player option?

[saltlover]

Why just a one year deal plus player option?

That is the going rate for the room exception.  It’s only two years max.  Normally it’s signed by vets who weren’t seeing the value they liked in free agency, so this gives them an opportunity to hit free agency again the next year if they improve their value, and stay with the team if they don’t.  Sometimes it’s one year only.  Rarely is it two years, no options.

[Silky]

It’s almost like most of you guys haven’t been watching NBA basketball for the past 5 years or so.  NO ONE gives a crap about “bigs” or spending big $ of PF/C.  Who cares if Embid scores 50 if we are chucking up 3s every time down and STILL WIN.  I don’t understand all the whining over big men here....

Yeah we dont need bigs! NBA is a small man's game.

name a championship squad past decade that had a dominant big. Duncan wasn't finals MVP. Dirk was a shooter

Siakam, ibaka and gasol.

Didnt have to look to far back


But lets do it anyways.

2010- pau gasol, bynum
2011- haywood, chandler mahinmi
2012- howard, anthony, bosh
2013-howard, Anthony, bosh, anderson
2014-duncan, splitter, baynes, bonner, green
2015- draymond, speights, bogut
2016- love, anderson, frye, mozgov
2017-draymon, pachulia, west, verajau, bellbell, mckinnie, jones
2018-draymond, pachulia, mcgee,

well done and a tp for the research.

Any research that identifies Juwan Howard and Tiego Splitter as dominant bigs makes me chuckle.

I wasnt about to debate what bigs were or were not dominate and instead posted all bigs on all the teams.

Most teams had 1 dominate big at least and more than 1 kanter level bigman.

[Rosco917]

Shams says we got kanter.. get cousins too and we are set ...

Get Cousins we’re all set? More like get Cousins and we’ll have the worst defensive front court in NBA history.

TP...true as hell

[zeitgeist49]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

[Ogaju]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

Its really time for CBS to start developing players and playing them. If Javalle McGhee can play in the NBA without shooting threes you need to get Robert Williams on the court.

[nickagneta]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

Its really time for CBS to start developing players and playing them. If Javalle McGhee can play in the NBA without shooting threes you need to get Robert Williams on the court.

Correction...Robert Williams has to get Robert Williams on the court not the team or coach. Timelord needs to prove he can be trusted with rotational minutes. The opportunity is there. He just hasn't to go out and take it...with his play. He can't just be thrown minutes. He has to go out and earn them.

[Boris Badenov]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

Its really time for CBS to start developing players and playing them. If Javalle McGhee can play in the NBA without shooting threes you need to get Robert Williams on the court.

All he's done is play young guys and develop them: Olynyk, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Tatum..heck, he even gave Semi Ojeleye meaningful playoff minutes as a rookie.

[saltlover]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

Its really time for CBS to start developing players and playing them. If Javalle McGhee can play in the NBA without shooting threes you need to get Robert Williams on the court.

All he's done is play young guys and develop them: Olynyk, Smart, Rozier, Brown, Tatum..heck, he even gave Semi Ojeleye meaningful playoff minutes as a rookie.

It’s not like IT, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner or even Jae Crowder were grizzled vets when Stevens was there to watch their best seasons.

[liam]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

Danny himself was once traded away for two mediocre big men.

[Cousy]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

Kanter was 71st in defensive rating out of 72 qualifying centers.

He is the next to worst defensive center in the NBA.

[mef730]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

Kanter was 71st in defensive rating out of 72 qualifying centers.

He is the next to worst defensive center in the NBA.

Great, lots of upside!

Mike

[Valid]

In watching Kanter's highlights, it seems clear that Kanter is an upgrade over Baynes. Kanter played well in the playoffs. Rebounding has been a major weakness for the Celts for the past few years. Kanter should fill a major need in rebounding. Clearly, Kanter will need defensive help. But Danny did a good job with this get, especially for the money. Hopefully, R.Williams can become a regular rotational player. I believe this will be a fun team to watch next year and I actually expect Boston to increase their win total from last year.

He is an entirely different type of player from Baynes. He fits better on this roster than Baynes would have, but I wouldn't have traded Baynes for Kanter going into last year.

So, I wouldn't call him a "clear" upgrade. He is just a better fit for this current group.