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Re: A 20 yr old with maturity issues-i blame the team
« Reply #525 on: July 05, 2018, 01:30:53 PM »

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Where did the Celtics let this kid down.

Give the kid the support tools-that missed flight was like a scream for help.

This whole thing has gotten blown way out of proportion.

What he needs from the Celtics is being held accountable, and it looks like the team did that. He took responsibility for the breakdown.

Possible that it will happen again? Yes. Likely that it will be a chronic problem? No.

Let's play ball.
Glad you feel this way, but I wouldn't go that far just yet.  No one has any basis to predict this, not even the Celtics.

 It doesn't have anything to do with how you or I feel.  I am not predicting one way or the other, just assessing likelihoods. 

It's not likely because lateness being a chronic problem mostly doesn't happen with NBA players, even with rookies, not because I know anything particular about him. 

The team held him accountable. He took responsibility. For what it's worth, it looks like he's got a support structure around him for making this thing work--including, not least, that the team has terrific leadership. And two buses.

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Re: structure arriving
« Reply #526 on: July 05, 2018, 01:35:16 PM »

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Good. Reminds me of when the kings drafted cousins then hired his high school coach

how did that work out?
Really well. Yes, Cousins, by all accounts, is a jerk with a temper, but he's not dead or disabled from drink or drugs and he does appear to stay in shape, make it to practices, and plays well in games.

You also failed to mention he is no longer in Sacramento though he was on a bargain contract.

FYI Cousins was a model citizen in Sacramento. He is beloved by the community. Also, players get traded, whether you attend practices or not. You cannot cite Cousins as an example that getting help doesnt work. For all we know, he mightve been worse without it,

phenomenal basketball player had no offers and had to call a team to lobby for employment at a bargain basement price. Yeah all that help he got really worked. Look I dont know how you reached the conclusion that I am against getting help for players. I am not.

Lol bro, how’s the humidity on Mars? Cousins and his lack of offers MIGHT, just might, have something to do with him weighing 280 and catastrophically tearing his ACL. Just maybe.

if that makes you feel better about why no team or players wanted him,

That is literally why it happened. It wasn’t due to maturity or lack of support.

Injured players get interest all the time Boogie not so much.

Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #527 on: July 05, 2018, 01:40:31 PM »

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Looks like all parties are moving forward.  Hopefully the board moves forward too.

https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-robert-williams

Re: structure arriving
« Reply #528 on: July 05, 2018, 01:52:03 PM »

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Good. Reminds me of when the kings drafted cousins then hired his high school coach

how did that work out?
Really well. Yes, Cousins, by all accounts, is a jerk with a temper, but he's not dead or disabled from drink or drugs and he does appear to stay in shape, make it to practices, and plays well in games.

You also failed to mention he is no longer in Sacramento though he was on a bargain contract.

FYI Cousins was a model citizen in Sacramento. He is beloved by the community. Also, players get traded, whether you attend practices or not. You cannot cite Cousins as an example that getting help doesnt work. For all we know, he mightve been worse without it,

phenomenal basketball player had no offers and had to call a team to lobby for employment at a bargain basement price. Yeah all that help he got really worked. Look I dont know how you reached the conclusion that I am against getting help for players. I am not.

Lol bro, how’s the humidity on Mars? Cousins and his lack of offers MIGHT, just might, have something to do with him weighing 280 and catastrophically tearing his ACL. Just maybe.

if that makes you feel better about why no team or players wanted him,

That is literally why it happened. It wasn’t due to maturity or lack of support.

Injured players get interest all the time Boogie not so much.

What you say is true.

But consider that his injury is an Achilles rupture, one of the worst injuries for a pro basketball player. It is usually a career killer. Consider Elton Brand, or more recently Wes Matthews. Both continued playing after healing, but at greatly diminished productivity.

I've seen it misreported as an ACL tear, including here. This is worse. Of course, it depends on how severe the damage, how young the player is...

The Warriors are taking a tiny risk at one year, $5M.

Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #529 on: July 05, 2018, 01:53:23 PM »

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Looks like all parties are moving forward.  Hopefully the board moves forward too.

https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-robert-williams

Amen to that.

Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #530 on: July 05, 2018, 01:55:30 PM »

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Danny has made a show of faith to this kid. Hope he works hard and grows into a Celtic.
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Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #531 on: July 05, 2018, 02:01:32 PM »

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Looks like all parties are moving forward.  Hopefully the board moves forward too.

https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-robert-williams

TP for the sentiments.

Re: Robert Williams makes two practices in a row
« Reply #532 on: July 05, 2018, 02:09:11 PM »

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Ah, Celtic Boston fans, always so supportive.

FTFY

Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #533 on: July 05, 2018, 02:09:44 PM »

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Looks like all parties are moving forward.  Hopefully the board moves forward too.

https://www.nba.com/celtics/news/pressrelease/celtics-sign-robert-williams

Wait for the wild overreactions to his game tmw, either way.

Just remember Trae Young has looked like Bust City so far and Bagley looked like a bum vs GSW SL.

KEEP IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE

Re: Moritz Wagner vs. Robert Williams
« Reply #534 on: July 05, 2018, 02:13:24 PM »

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I watched very little of him but when I did, the first guy who came into my head was Henry Ellenson. So there's that.

How Ellenson can be a 6’11 PF/C and have only one block in nearly 500 minutes for his career is beyond me.

That is amazing. I feel like he has to be actively avoiding putting his hands up in that scenario.
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Re: Robert Williams makes two practices in a row
« Reply #535 on: July 05, 2018, 02:19:25 PM »

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Is everyone done bashing this kid now? ::)

No way. If we didn’t have something to complain about, CB wouldn’t have a reason to exist.

Mike

Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #536 on: July 05, 2018, 02:22:35 PM »

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He didn't oversleep and miss signing on to the gravy train, then?


When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.

Re: structure arriving
« Reply #537 on: July 05, 2018, 02:27:40 PM »

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I think it's pretty alarming that Williams needs a full time babysitter. Because you can call it what you want, but that's pretty much what he's getting.

Tatum lives with his mom. It's not that unusual...

When Delonte West was with the Celtics he lived with mom for support, albeit not his own mom.

Re: Robert Williams officially signed
« Reply #538 on: July 05, 2018, 02:28:29 PM »

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So 30 day commitment?
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Re: Moritz Wagner vs. Robert Williams
« Reply #539 on: July 05, 2018, 02:30:22 PM »

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I think Wagner is skilled already but he is limited by his athletic base.   Wiliams is the opposite with tons of potential, but low skill, a lot of guys never realize their potential, though.  But if he does he will be the better player but there is no guarantee that he will.

Williams is not "low skill", he just doesn't have the same "skill" as Wagner, namely shooting. Wagner isn't anwhere near the shotblocker, rebounder, and passer Williams is.

My guess is the C's just thought Williams switchability on D and rim protection is what they are looking for. They figured it would be easier to make Williams a passable shooter than Wagner a defender that can switch onto guards..
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