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Should the Celtics trade for AD?

Yes.  (Tatum in the deal)
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No.   (Not worth giving up assets for a one year rental)
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Yes but only if Tatum isn't in the deal.
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Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2370 on: May 14, 2019, 09:18:54 PM »

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Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.
Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year.

Okay? Does that carry them a playoff spot?
As a second fiddle to Davis?  Sure.
so basically like boogie/davis
If you mean fit is important I agree.  But it also helps that Zion isn’t clinically nuts like boogie. 

Zion is a rich mans Blake Griffin in my eyes.  He’ll be a perennial all star if he stays healthy.  The NBA has never seen anything like him.  Calling him randle is an insult.
I agree that calling him Randle isn't a fair comparison. But I don't see him being better than Julius Randle was this season as a rookie. When was the last time a true rookie (so not Blake Griffin) averaged 20-10??
When is the last time someone’s like Zion came into the league.  I’d say never.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2371 on: May 14, 2019, 09:19:01 PM »

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Davis could stay one more year...see how it goes and then just be a FA.

Would NO risk him walking for nothing?

That would be stupidity. Griffin doesn't come off as stupid.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2372 on: May 14, 2019, 09:19:10 PM »

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Davis could stay one more year...see how it goes and then just be a FA.

Would NO risk him walking for nothing?

Worst case would be they trade him at the deadline if it is not working. I just think Griffin wants to keep him

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2373 on: May 14, 2019, 09:19:11 PM »

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Davis could stay one more year...see how it goes and then just be a FA.

Would NO risk him walking for nothing?

No. He's arguably the best player in franchise history in his prime. You absolutely have to get something for him.
I don't think Griffin would ever do that
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Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2374 on: May 14, 2019, 09:19:51 PM »

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Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.
Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year and a decent shot at the all star game.

Lol not even close. Zion is actually going to have a rough rookie year, I think. Dude is almost all athleticism and size and very little skill. That's going to be a huge adjustment when he realizes that he's not going against average human beings anymore but the biggest, fastest, and strongest athletes on the planet.

The only way he does come anywhere close to those numbers is by NOLA moving even more toward a fast tempo game, which isn't exactly consistent with having a talent like Davis. Now if they do make a Boston trade for something like Tatum, Williams, Rozier S&T/Smart and picks, then, yeah, sure, he can average those numbers as a primary option. But no way he averages that if they run the same NOLA team back with AD staying.
I guess we’ll see.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2375 on: May 14, 2019, 09:20:07 PM »

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Lol how salty is Davis going to be if Zion actually manages to be relevant in New Orleans.

Davis couldn't sell out games there, didn't get voted as an all-star starter, and doesn't sell jerseys.  Is that because people find the Brow boring or because New Orleans is a wasteland?

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2376 on: May 14, 2019, 09:20:39 PM »

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NO.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2377 on: May 14, 2019, 09:21:18 PM »

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Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.
Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year and a decent shot at the all star game.

Lol not even close. Zion is actually going to have a rough rookie year, I think. Dude is almost all athleticism and size and very little skill. That's going to be a huge adjustment when he realizes that he's not going against average human beings anymore but the biggest, fastest, and strongest athletes on the planet.

The only way he does come anywhere close to those numbers is by NOLA moving even more toward a fast tempo game, which isn't exactly consistent with having a talent like Davis. Now if they do make a Boston trade for something like Tatum, Williams, Rozier S&T/Smart and picks, then, yeah, sure, he can average those numbers as a primary option. But no way he averages that if they run the same NOLA team back with AD staying.

Blake Griffin was 20-10 in his first year; Zion’s college stats are much, much better than Blake’s were. The efficiency was ridiculous.  I grant that he won’t get 20 points if he doesn’t get enough shots; I have a feeling his new team will decide he should get them.

The biggest problem New Orleans has had is not finding enough touches for  A.D. it’s been getting anything useful out of the 50-60 shots the other players take. Zion will be the second or at worst third option on the Pels.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2378 on: May 14, 2019, 09:21:36 PM »

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Davis could stay one more year...see how it goes and then just be a FA.

That's too big of a risk for Orleans.

The Celts' offer is only good on or before the draft because if there's no deal to be made then the Celts will not be picking for Orleans.

Right now the Pels can tell the Celts who to pick, if they're going to trade AD to the Celts.

If there's no deal then Ainge will be using the picks on players the Celts want.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2379 on: May 14, 2019, 09:22:07 PM »

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50% chance he stays
20% he goes Lakers
15% he goes Knicks
15% he goes Celtics
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Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2380 on: May 14, 2019, 09:22:40 PM »

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Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.
Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year.

Okay? Does that carry them a playoff spot?
As a second fiddle to Davis?  Sure.

So what? Is AD going to re-sign after next year because the Pels earned a late playoff seed?

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2381 on: May 14, 2019, 09:24:12 PM »

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Davis could stay one more year...see how it goes and then just be a FA.

Would NO risk him walking for nothing?

Worst case would be they trade him at the deadline if it is not working. I just think Griffin wants to keep him

I just think that's terrible asset management. NO has a chance to replenish their roster. If he's non committal before the season starts, you move him.
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Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2382 on: May 14, 2019, 09:24:31 PM »

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50% chance he stays
20% he goes Lakers
15% he goes Knicks
15% he goes Celtics

There's just no point for AD staying for a rebuild.

Celts still have the best offer and the offer will only last on draft night.

If there's no deal then the Celts will be picking players that they want.

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2383 on: May 14, 2019, 09:24:37 PM »

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Nope, and I can’t understand the logic.

Zion is way too overhyped here. He’s basically Randle right now... AD isn’t waiting around for him to develop.

Knicks and Lakers have picks 3/4 in a 2man draft. If we want AD he’s ours. Ainge is probably pumping his fists as we speak.
Except I predict Zion will average 20-10 next year and a decent shot at the all star game.

Lol not even close. Zion is actually going to have a rough rookie year, I think. Dude is almost all athleticism and size and very little skill. That's going to be a huge adjustment when he realizes that he's not going against average human beings anymore but the biggest, fastest, and strongest athletes on the planet.

The only way he does come anywhere close to those numbers is by NOLA moving even more toward a fast tempo game, which isn't exactly consistent with having a talent like Davis. Now if they do make a Boston trade for something like Tatum, Williams, Rozier S&T/Smart and picks, then, yeah, sure, he can average those numbers as a primary option. But no way he averages that if they run the same NOLA team back with AD staying.
Try again.  The Pels were 2nd in pace this season and 1st in pace last season. 

Re: So does Davis stay in NO?
« Reply #2384 on: May 14, 2019, 09:25:13 PM »

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New Orleans can actually create like 20 million in cap room if Randle opts out and they cut all the non-guaranteed players.  They could potentially use that and bring in some quality players to go with Holiday, Davis, and Williamson (along with Hill, Moore, and maybe Okafor).  They can also keep Payton relatively cheaply.  Not sure what mid-tier free agents are out there or if they might be willing to acquire some big and bad contracts for the expiring contracts of Hill and Moore, but on players that can still play (someone like Wall or Adams - though their fits isn't good). 
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