Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Tr1boy]

The Pels would be idiots to make the deal now. NOBODY can offer what Boston can. But will the give into Davis and his requests? That is the big question.

If Lakers giveup Kuzma, Ingram, Hart

Then no Celts cant beat that

Unless Kyrie is offered bc Danny is not going to trade Tatum plus Brown

The Memphis 1st round pick alone is probably a better value asset than Lonzo Ball.

We can't beat that offer? You think that is better than Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier SnT, whoever we pick in the 2019 Draft using the Sacramento pick, Memphis 1st, Clippers 1st?

the reality is.... I can't see Danny trading Tatum

Brown and Rozier yes.  1st round picks yes

but Tatum no

Lets just hope Lakers feel the same about Kuzma.  And I don't think they care for Ball and his big mouth father .....  all that happens after his rookie deal is up and run back and join a LA area team

[Roy H.]

The numbers that encourage me about a potential Lakers offer:

30.3%
30.9%
32.9%

Those are the 3PT% of Kuzma, Ingram and Ball this season.  Teams that want to win know that they need outside shooting, and the three haven't provided it this year.

[GreenShooter]

The Pels would be idiots to make the deal now. NOBODY can offer what Boston can. But will the give into Davis and his requests? That is the big question.

LAkers can offer what Boston can.

less a few picks I suppose.

Kuzma, Ball, Ingram is as good a package as Brown and Tatum...honestly.

Yup. I’d do that trade in a heart beat if I were the Pelicans. It’s gotta be all 3 of those guys though.

Agree completely. Including Hart and Zubac instead of Kuzma and Ball is a no thanx..

[droopdog7]

The celts are going to get screwed by this rule.  Just not the same value to trade for a bunch of players (I.e., picks) than the picks themselves.

I mean, if the celts had far and away the best package then maybe the pelicans would wait.  But they don’t.  Ingram, ball, and kizma close to our best offer even if we include Tatum.

Don't think this is true in any sense of the term. Our best offer could literally be something like Tatum, Brown, Williams, Rozier (S&T), Sac Pick, Memphis pick, LAC pick, and other picks or pick swaps of our own picks. LA's offer comes nowhere near that value.

Plus, you have to think of what that would set Davis up for long-term. Lebron is 34 and his body is now starting to show his age, with this year suffering the worst injury of his career. He'll be 35 by the time next season starts, and with as many miles as he has on his body, it's only going to get worse for him. Sure, they might be able to land another guy this summer through free agency, but they'll have virtually nothing left assets-wise to fill out that roster, as they will have to go all-in to get AD before the trade deadline. Long-term he's only marginally closer to winning a title in LA than he is in NOLA.

Boston, on the other hand, will still have assets left after the trade and a near All-Star starting five in Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Davis, and Al.

So Tatum would have the highest value, followed by the three lakers.  Brown I think is showing his true colors.  I think his days as a prospect are numbers.  Rozier has about zero value.  The picks are sweeteners, maybe a little more.  Not sure what value Williams has.

[Silky]

According to Woj, the Celtics can formally agree to a trade for AD that gets executed in June. Also, Pelicans prefer our package and don’t want to send AD to LA

So people can stop freaking out here. It makes no sense for NOLA to try and rush a trade right now. It benefits them in almost every single regard to sit AD for the time being and wait until the summer to seriously consider the trade, all while working the phones for potential packages with both Boston and LA right now.

NBA teams cannot just sit players.

Silver has stated teams have an obligation to play star players and has stated "significant penalties" to teams that do not oblige.

[celticinorlando]

Brown would be the easiest of all pieces to part with. And I would do everything I could to keep Tatum.

[Tr1boy]

Chris Mannix: There’s really only one reason for AD’s agent to go public with a trade demand this early—to give the Lakers a head start on trade talks before Boston can get into the mix this summer. Why else risk AD spending the next few months as the villain? –

[jpotter33]

According to Woj, the Celtics can formally agree to a trade for AD that gets executed in June. Also, Pelicans prefer our package and don’t want to send AD to LA

So people can stop freaking out here. It makes no sense for NOLA to try and rush a trade right now. It benefits them in almost every single regard to sit AD for the time being and wait until the summer to seriously consider the trade, all while working the phones for potential packages with both Boston and LA right now.

Then why does AD state this today/yesterday

why doesn't he just finish the season out then ask ??

AD wants to win a championship ASAP.  Starting now, not tomorrow

AD could also get injured... which would be a detriment for the Pelicans

Now if the Pelicans have someone in mind for the 2019 draft (top 5 pick)... then I can see them waiting. But what are the chances such a team will be a good team?

Uh, I'm not sure what you're not getting about this, Triboy, but it's not AD's decision - it's NOLA's decision. They can easily sit him the rest of the year if that's what it comes to, which would technically only benefit them more in the long-term.

[RJ87]

According to Woj, the Celtics can formally agree to a trade for AD that gets executed in June. Also, Pelicans prefer our package and don’t want to send AD to LA

So people can stop freaking out here. It makes no sense for NOLA to try and rush a trade right now. It benefits them in almost every single regard to sit AD for the time being and wait until the summer to seriously consider the trade, all while working the phones for potential packages with both Boston and LA right now.

NBA teams cannot just sit players.

Silver has stated teams have an obligation to play star players and has stated "significant penalties" to teams that do not oblige.

AD is already out with a hand injury and has had other injuries this season, so a recurrence of a previous injury could be listed. It's pretty hard to prove a player isn't injured. Derrick Rose and Kawhi Leonard have both been medically cleared in the past, but continued to sit.

[RJ87]

Chris Mannix: There’s really only one reason for AD’s agent to go public with a trade demand this early—to give the Lakers a head start on trade talks before Boston can get into the mix this summer. Why else risk AD spending the next few months as the villain? –

Also Chris Mannix: It still makes zero sense for the Pelicans to seriously consider any offer until July. Boston is highly motivated to make a move for Davis. They have more appealing young players than the Lakers and a chest of picks (including a possible unprotected Grizz pick in 2021) to deal.

[apc]

I wonder if that makes Jrue available?
He is having a good season and can help a lot of playoff teams.

[jpotter33]

The celts are going to get screwed by this rule.  Just not the same value to trade for a bunch of players (I.e., picks) than the picks themselves.

I mean, if the celts had far and away the best package then maybe the pelicans would wait.  But they don’t.  Ingram, ball, and kizma close to our best offer even if we include Tatum.

Don't think this is true in any sense of the term. Our best offer could literally be something like Tatum, Brown, Williams, Rozier (S&T), Sac Pick, Memphis pick, LAC pick, and other picks or pick swaps of our own picks. LA's offer comes nowhere near that value.

Plus, you have to think of what that would set Davis up for long-term. Lebron is 34 and his body is now starting to show his age, with this year suffering the worst injury of his career. He'll be 35 by the time next season starts, and with as many miles as he has on his body, it's only going to get worse for him. Sure, they might be able to land another guy this summer through free agency, but they'll have virtually nothing left assets-wise to fill out that roster, as they will have to go all-in to get AD before the trade deadline. Long-term he's only marginally closer to winning a title in LA than he is in NOLA.

Boston, on the other hand, will still have assets left after the trade and a near All-Star starting five in Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Davis, and Al.

So Tatum would have the highest value, followed by the three lakers.  Brown I think is showing his true colors.  I think his days as a prospect are numbers.  Rozier has about zero value.  The picks are sweeteners, maybe a little more.  Not sure what value Williams has.

I mean, if you think that then I guess that makes sense. But I'm guessing that virtually everyone in the NBA outside of Southern California thinks Brown is just as good, if not better, of a prospect than any of those three. The only one that I think is questionable is Ingram.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The Pels would be idiots to make the deal now. NOBODY can offer what Boston can. But will the give into Davis and his requests? That is the big question.

If Lakers giveup Kuzma, Ingram, Hart

Then no Celts cant beat that

Unless Kyrie is offered bc Danny is not going to trade Tatum plus Brown

The Memphis 1st round pick alone is probably a better value asset than Lonzo Ball.

We can't beat that offer? You think that is better than Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier SnT, whoever we pick in the 2019 Draft using the Sacramento pick, Memphis 1st, Clippers 1st?

the reality is.... I can't see Danny trading Tatum

Brown and Rozier yes.  1st round picks yes

but Tatum no

Lets just hope Lakers feel the same about Kuzma.  And I don't think they care for Ball and his big mouth father .....  all that happens after his rookie deal is up and run back and join a LA area team

Why not? This is Anthony freaking Davis.

You do realize AD is only 25 years old, right? Him and Kyrie will be the core duo for the next 5-7 years. That's not worth giving up Jayson Tatum?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

The celts are going to get screwed by this rule.  Just not the same value to trade for a bunch of players (I.e., picks) than the picks themselves.

I mean, if the celts had far and away the best package then maybe the pelicans would wait.  But they don’t.  Ingram, ball, and kizma close to our best offer even if we include Tatum.

Don't think this is true in any sense of the term. Our best offer could literally be something like Tatum, Brown, Williams, Rozier (S&T), Sac Pick, Memphis pick, LAC pick, and other picks or pick swaps of our own picks. LA's offer comes nowhere near that value.

Plus, you have to think of what that would set Davis up for long-term. Lebron is 34 and his body is now starting to show his age, with this year suffering the worst injury of his career. He'll be 35 by the time next season starts, and with as many miles as he has on his body, it's only going to get worse for him. Sure, they might be able to land another guy this summer through free agency, but they'll have virtually nothing left assets-wise to fill out that roster, as they will have to go all-in to get AD before the trade deadline. Long-term he's only marginally closer to winning a title in LA than he is in NOLA.

Boston, on the other hand, will still have assets left after the trade and a near All-Star starting five in Kyrie, Smart, Hayward, Davis, and Al.

So Tatum would have the highest value, followed by the three lakers.  Brown I think is showing his true colors.  I think his days as a prospect are numbers.  Rozier has about zero value.  The picks are sweeteners, maybe a little more.  Not sure what value Williams has.

Jayson Tatum and the Memphis 1st round pick would be the highest valued asset, then possibly Kyle Kuzma and Brandon Ingram. Surely Jaylen Brown has better value right now than Lonzo Ball. It's not good value, but Brown has to have a better trade value due to his positional versatility.

[jpotter33]

According to Woj, the Celtics can formally agree to a trade for AD that gets executed in June. Also, Pelicans prefer our package and don’t want to send AD to LA

So people can stop freaking out here. It makes no sense for NOLA to try and rush a trade right now. It benefits them in almost every single regard to sit AD for the time being and wait until the summer to seriously consider the trade, all while working the phones for potential packages with both Boston and LA right now.

NBA teams cannot just sit players.

Silver has stated teams have an obligation to play star players and has stated "significant penalties" to teams that do not oblige.

Cough Kawhi and the San Antonio Spurs 2017-2018 Season Cough

It's not like this would be NOLA unilaterally making this decision. It would be a joint decision by AD and NOLA who can't come to an agreement in the interim, and it would be termed in the context of an injury issue, as we've seen with other players like Kawhi.