WojBomb - Cavs evaluating options after IT physical...

[Moranis]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

[liam]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

Won't this all be over by 10 am?

[Roy H.]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

It would be more than just speculation. It would be Woj out right lying, as he reported that the Celtics and Cavaliers spoke yesterday.

[j804]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

[Moranis]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

It would be more than just speculation. It would be Woj out right lying, as he reported that the Celtics and Cavaliers spoke yesterday.

speaking and asking for things are two different things.

[celticinorlando]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

The team around him in Milwaukee with be very, very average without those 2 guys. Boston gives Kyrie the better chance to win now and in the long run.

[Moranis]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

The Bucks have been there the whole time, as have the Suns.  None of this new.  Just more ESPN click baiting.

[jpotter33]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

You do realize that there's a difference between "afternoon" and "evening/night," right?

Woj's story didn't come out until like 8 or 9 yesterday evening, which is when the Cavs supposedly finally engaged the Celtics about additional compensation. Your link above says Tuesday afternoon, which was written several hours prior to Woj's latest report.

[ssspence]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

The team around him in Milwaukee with be very, very average without those 2 guys. Boston gives Kyrie the better chance to win now and in the long run.

Makes no difference. It's not up to Kyrie where he goes....

[Moranis]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

The team around him in Milwaukee with be very, very average without those 2 guys. Boston gives Kyrie the better chance to win now and in the long run.

That just isn't true as Giannis is by the far best player and the best future player on either of those two teams.  You win with top end talent, and the Bucks have the best top end talent.  Now sure Parker, Maker, Snell, Monroe, Delly, and Henson aren't great (though Parker certainly could be if he could ever get healthy), but Giannis is just special. 

[Moranis]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

You do realize that there's a difference between "afternoon" and "evening/night," right?

Woj's story didn't come out until like 8 or 9 yesterday evening, which is when the Cavs supposedly finally engaged the Celtics about additional compensation. Your link above says Tuesday afternoon, which was written several hours prior to Woj's latest report.

Sure, but Woj has been making these reports since the trade. 

[celticinorlando]

Whatever is going on it is beyond ridiculous. If the Cavs don't want the deal then say so and move on. If they do, then take an extra late pick or second rounder and finalize it.

The major players in the deal do not want to return back to their teams and the teams don't want them back.

Really not impressed with the new Cavs GM. Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. bag like their owner

[CelticsElite]

You've all been had by ESPN click baiting.

"Multiple sources told cleveland.com that as of Tuesday afternoon, Cleveland hasn't asked the Celtics for anything extra."

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/08/cavaliers-celtics_trade_is_tre.html#incart_2box

I keep harping on this point, because Woj is just speculating.  The Cavs haven't asked the Celtics for a thing at this point.  Maybe they will, but maybe they won't, and until they do it is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

You do realize that there's a difference between "afternoon" and "evening/night," right?

Woj's story didn't come out until like 8 or 9 yesterday evening, which is when the Cavs supposedly finally engaged the Celtics about additional compensation. Your link above says Tuesday afternoon, which was written several hours prior to Woj's latest report.

Sure, but Woj has been making these reports since the trade.

what does it matter? ive noticed a lot of hating on woj recently. why are people hating on the messenger?  can you prove he's lying?

[celticinorlando]

The Milwaukee Bucks lurk on the fringes of the Irving bidding with an offer centered around Malcolm Brogdon, the reigning NBA Rookie of the Year, and Khris Middleton, sources say. The Bucks have not yet put a first-round pick on the table, sources say, but the bet here is that they would to get the deal done -- or if Irving showed any interest in staying in Milwaukee long-term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20501557/zach-lowe-celtics-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-isaiah-thomas-trade-nba

Ugh so apparently the Bucks are lurking and this could be part of the hold up. Cleveland waiting to see who and if anybody will up their offer. This just seems like bad negotiationg and dirty tactics.

The team around him in Milwaukee with be very, very average without those 2 guys. Boston gives Kyrie the better chance to win now and in the long run.

That just isn't true as Giannis is by the far best player and the best future player on either of those two teams.  You win with top end talent, and the Bucks have the best top end talent.  Now sure Parker, Maker, Snell, Monroe, Delly, and Henson aren't great (though Parker certainly could be if he could ever get healthy), but Giannis is just special.

He is special...but so is Hayward. And after that Boston's cast is much stronger and has a ton of more talent that is still young. Plus Boston has a lot more picks than the Bucks and they are much higher.

[jpotter33]

Someone explain something to me.

The Cavs shouldn't be able to still be fielding calls for Kyrie, right? While they have the right to nix the deal due to the physical until Thursday, the trade itself has already been completed and finalized, meaning Kyrie is already a member of the Boston Celtics.

I don't understand how they can still be having discussions with other teams for a player they don't currently have rights to. While teams discuss counterfactuals and hypothetical trades involving players of other teams all of the time, wouldn't this just essentially be Cleveland aiming to renege on their agreed-upon deal with a better offer after the fact?