WojBomb - Cavs evaluating options after IT physical...

[RJ87]

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn  7m7 minutes ago

Sources: As Boston waits on finalization of Irving deal, free agent  F/C Thomas Robinson working out at facility for possible roster spot.

That would be a good buy low candidate for Danny to sign.

he's a warm, young body but was does he really provide?  he hasn't lasted more than a season with any 1 team.  how much could we really expect from him off the bench?

are there better big man candidates still left out there?  I know Bogut's been rumored but his health is highly suspect.  anyone have a reasonable option for us that could provide some moderate production and stay healthy for the season?

Rebounding, which we badly need.

EDIT:

Chris Forsberg‏Verified account @ESPNForsberg  12m12 minutes ago
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Thomas Robinson’s total rebound rate last season: 22.5%.

Boston’s team leader last year: Kelly Olynyk, 13.1%.

[GreenEnvy]

Only on CelticsBlog would a reigning 2x all-star, All-NBA, 29PPG scorer be a throw-in.

Considering his injury and contract situation, it's pretty obvious conclusion. Of course, if you're only interested in the Celtics in passing, this might not be the case.

Yeah, you need to have 15,000 posts on a blog forum to follow basketball.

[Tr1boy]

Joe Vardon: Per a source, as of yesterday afternoon the Cavs had made no request to Boston for more on Kyrie-IT trade – via Twitter joevardon
 Trade, Isaiah Thomas,

[celticsclay]

Joe Vardon: Per a source, as of yesterday afternoon the Cavs had made no request to Boston for more on Kyrie-IT trade – via Twitter joevardon
 Trade, Isaiah Thomas,

Not surprising

[byennie]

Nah. Internet rumors are always super accurate.

I could see this going through as-is with a "don't believe the Internet" shrug from Danny, or, a 2nd rounder thrown in to show good faith (if only they can spin it that way).

As for the "add Tatum or Brown" rumors, that's insanity. IMO the only nugget of truth could be that Cleveland really did want Tatum over the BKN pick, but everyone valued them fairly close. Thus, one last check to see if they could get Tatum *instead* of the pick.

[Eja117]

Joe Vardon: Per a source, as of yesterday afternoon the Cavs had made no request to Boston for more on Kyrie-IT trade – via Twitter joevardon
 Trade, Isaiah Thomas,

Originally I thought it was pretty dumb for the Cavs to show their hand publicly like this, but perhaps by leaking it out they get to gauge the reaction of many people, and then if they decide not to get greedy they can deny that they ever asked for anything.
Maybe they thought it was worth a shot to see if Ainge would call them begging to add more to the deal.

[Tr1boy]

It looks like the Cavs are not going to make much more noise about this....... i predict on Wednesday they are going to ask Danny for an extra 2nd pick and be done with it

[kozlodoev]

Only on CelticsBlog would a reigning 2x all-star, All-NBA, 29PPG scorer be a throw-in.

Considering his injury and contract situation, it's pretty obvious conclusion. Of course, if you're only interested in the Celtics in passing, this might not be the case.

Yeah, you need to have 15,000 posts on a blog forum to follow basketball.

Nah, that would just mean you have way too much time to argue with people who are wrong on the Internet.

[Sideshow Mel]

Maybe I missed some discussion of this, but is it possible that Cleveland wasn't thinking of adding Brown or Tatum to the four pieces already in the deal but rather swapping the Brooklyn pick for one of those two? That is, using the IT physical to "upgrade" that future piece to something with more immediate impact.

I guess it is all moot if Cleveland does not even ask for anything.

[liam]

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn  7m7 minutes ago

Sources: As Boston waits on finalization of Irving deal, free agent  F/C Thomas Robinson working out at facility for possible roster spot.

That would be a good buy low candidate for Danny to sign.

he's a warm, young body but was does he really provide?  he hasn't lasted more than a season with any 1 team.  how much could we really expect from him off the bench?

are there better big man candidates still left out there?  I know Bogut's been rumored but his health is highly suspect.  anyone have a reasonable option for us that could provide some moderate production and stay healthy for the season?

Hasn't Robinson been healthy through out his career? There are better bigs out their but we only have the minimum to sign someone.

[Tr1boy]

What happened to Bogut?

I rather sign him than Robingson

[saltlover]

What happened to Bogut?

I rather sign him than Robingson

He strained his back reaching for his phone when Ainge called him.

[kozlodoev]

What happened to Bogut?

I rather sign him than Robingson

He strained his back reaching for his phone when Ainge called him.

Yup. Out for the season.

[Big333223]

I'm curious what others think about this theory:

In the negotiating room, Ainge offered less for Irving but when Koby Altman saw IT's medical situation, he wanted more compensation because IT wasn't going to be 100% and may still miss part of the season. Ainge relented, giving up the Net's pick, as opposed to something like the C's 2018 1st to get the deal done. This is why the initial deal looked like an overpay to many (many Celtic fans especially).

Altman agreed and when he came back to Cavs ownership saying, "Look at everything I got for Kyrie," they liked the deal just as basically everyone liked the deal for the Cavs. Then ownership found out about Isaiah's health and said, "Wait, if he's not healthy, we should get more from the Celtics," thinking this was new information for everyone, even though it wasn't.

So now the Cavs are asking for the Celtics to pay an "injured Isaiah" tax that they've actually already paid because the Cavs ownership didn't realize that was part of the initial deal and got too comfortable with the idea that this package is just what Kyrie is worth, when in reality, the precarious situation of Kyrie's trade demand has decreased his value and Cavs ownership doesn't want to believe that.

Crazy?

[CelticsElite]

What happened to Bogut?

I rather sign him than Robingson

He strained his back reaching for his phone when Ainge called him.

lol