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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #105 on: July 09, 2017, 06:21:01 PM »

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Love, love, love this signing. Last year our team was a bit soft at times, especially in the bigs department. But adding Morris, Baynes, and Zizic should really make us a lot tougher as a team. I'm really loving our depth chart about now:

PG: IT, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart, Green (?)
SF: Hayward, Crowder, Semi
PF: Morris, Tatum, Yabu
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

That is a DEEP team. If we stay healthy, with being in the East and our overall talent and depth, we have a chance at being a 65 win team, and I really don't think that's hyperbole. With that depth, great mix of youth and vets, and overall talent level, we have "elite regular season team" written all over us.

I'm excited too, but you're going to be disappointed if 65 wins is a target.  That's championship elite, and the Celtics won't be there without one more major acquisition or substantial growth from Brown or Tatum. 55-58 wins is where I see us -- legitimately improved, perhaps the top team in the conference, but we're still a pretty young and inexperienced team, relying on multiple players who are not yet of legal drinking age for significant contributions.  We could have up to 7 players who are rookies or in their second year.  There will be very real growing pains.  There's a lot of talent in the depth, but short on inexperience, and during a long season with both injuries and necessary rest, that will put a lower ceiling on the wins.

If healthy, 60 is expected in my book!!

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Another glutton for disappointment.

60 wins isn't some unattainable goal. The East got worse the C's got much better.

By point differential, the Celtics should have won 49 games last year.  They've not gotten 11 wins better, and I personally don't like relying on significant luck two years in a row.

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #106 on: July 09, 2017, 06:22:14 PM »

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I like the signing. Only one year, allows us to rest Horford away from the 5 excuslively, maybe a nice player for Zizic to watch. I like the toughness and hope he can knock down open midrange jumpers.

I think 60 wins is definitely attainable this year. We addressed rebounding and toughness, added an all-star and talented rookie, but unfortunately lost AB. He will be missed on and off the court.


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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #107 on: July 09, 2017, 06:22:52 PM »

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the C's got much better.

Did they make some move nobody knows about?  Without that, the idea that they got much better seems..... overly optimistic.

Yes, adding one of the more versatile All-Stars (from the West NO LESS) in Hayward, and Morris (an upgrade from a degenerating Amir), now Baynes (one of the BEST backup centers in the entire NBA!!), and Tatum are ALL downgrades or moves that NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT:-)))))))))

And I did not even mention Nader, Yabusele, Semi, and Zizic.

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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #108 on: July 09, 2017, 06:24:22 PM »

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Great signing!

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #109 on: July 09, 2017, 06:24:37 PM »

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Love, love, love this signing. Last year our team was a bit soft at times, especially in the bigs department. But adding Morris, Baynes, and Zizic should really make us a lot tougher as a team. I'm really loving our depth chart about now:

PG: IT, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart, Green (?)
SF: Hayward, Crowder, Semi
PF: Morris, Tatum, Yabu
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

That is a DEEP team. If we stay healthy, with being in the East and our overall talent and depth, we have a chance at being a 65 win team, and I really don't think that's hyperbole. With that depth, great mix of youth and vets, and overall talent level, we have "elite regular season team" written all over us.

I'm excited too, but you're going to be disappointed if 65 wins is a target.  That's championship elite, and the Celtics won't be there without one more major acquisition or substantial growth from Brown or Tatum. 55-58 wins is where I see us -- legitimately improved, perhaps the top team in the conference, but we're still a pretty young and inexperienced team, relying on multiple players who are not yet of legal drinking age for significant contributions.  We could have up to 7 players who are rookies or in their second year.  There will be very real growing pains.  There's a lot of talent in the depth, but short on inexperience, and during a long season with both injuries and necessary rest, that will put a lower ceiling on the wins.

If healthy, 60 is expected in my book!!

Smitty77

Another glutton for disappointment.

60 wins isn't some unattainable goal. The East got worse the C's got much better.

By point differential, the Celtics should have won 49 games last year.  They've not gotten 11 wins better, and I personally don't like relying on significant luck two years in a row.

Point differential will go up now that IT isn't carrying the offense in 4th.

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2017, 06:24:47 PM »

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the C's got much better.

Did they make some move nobody knows about?  Without that, the idea that they got much better seems..... overly optimistic.

Yes, adding one of the more versatile All-Stars (from the West NO LESS) in Hayward, and Morris (an upgrade from a degenerating Amir), now Baynes (one of the BEST backup centers in the entire NBA!!), and Tatum are ALL downgrades or moves that NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT:-)))))))))

And I did not even mention Nader, Yabusele, Semi, and Zizic.

Smitty77

The Celtics are better. Talent wins in the NBA and The Celtics just got some major talent upgrades!

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2017, 06:26:24 PM »

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LOVE this pickup. Having watched him represent my country quite regularly I've grown to like him quite a lot, especially with Bogut helping him out here and there.

Shocking hair aside I think he'll be a great asset for us.
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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2017, 06:27:36 PM »

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the C's got much better.

Did they make some move nobody knows about?  Without that, the idea that they got much better seems..... overly optimistic.

Yes, adding one of the more versatile All-Stars (from the West NO LESS) in Hayward, and Morris (an upgrade from a degenerating Amir), now Baynes (one of the BEST backup centers in the entire NBA!!), and Tatum are ALL downgrades or moves that NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT:-)))))))))

And I did not even mention Nader, Yabusele, Semi, and Zizic.

Smitty77

The Celtics are better. Talent wins in the NBA and The Celtics just got some major talent upgrades!

There are some people that don't realize how good Hayward is. They'll find out real quick though lol

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2017, 06:28:49 PM »

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Love, love, love this signing. Last year our team was a bit soft at times, especially in the bigs department. But adding Morris, Baynes, and Zizic should really make us a lot tougher as a team. I'm really loving our depth chart about now:

PG: IT, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart, Green (?)
SF: Hayward, Crowder, Semi
PF: Morris, Tatum, Yabu
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

That is a DEEP team. If we stay healthy, with being in the East and our overall talent and depth, we have a chance at being a 65 win team, and I really don't think that's hyperbole. With that depth, great mix of youth and vets, and overall talent level, we have "elite regular season team" written all over us.

I'm excited too, but you're going to be disappointed if 65 wins is a target.  That's championship elite, and the Celtics won't be there without one more major acquisition or substantial growth from Brown or Tatum. 55-58 wins is where I see us -- legitimately improved, perhaps the top team in the conference, but we're still a pretty young and inexperienced team, relying on multiple players who are not yet of legal drinking age for significant contributions.  We could have up to 7 players who are rookies or in their second year.  There will be very real growing pains.  There's a lot of talent in the depth, but short on inexperience, and during a long season with both injuries and necessary rest, that will put a lower ceiling on the wins.

If healthy, 60 is expected in my book!!

Smitty77

Another glutton for disappointment.

60 wins isn't some unattainable goal. The East got worse the C's got much better.

By point differential, the Celtics should have won 49 games last year.  They've not gotten 11 wins better, and I personally don't like relying on significant luck two years in a row.

Didn't they miss a lot of games to injury to key players? Every team goes through your typical long season injuries, but the C's started the season with guys injured and missed Bradley for like two months.

Point diff isn't everything.
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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2017, 06:29:05 PM »

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We also have Daniel Theis to add some toughness too. Danny used our money wisely. Baynes plays hard.
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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2017, 06:33:19 PM »

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Love, love, love this signing. Last year our team was a bit soft at times, especially in the bigs department. But adding Morris, Baynes, and Zizic should really make us a lot tougher as a team. I'm really loving our depth chart about now:

PG: IT, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart, Green (?)
SF: Hayward, Crowder, Semi
PF: Morris, Tatum, Yabu
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

That is a DEEP team. If we stay healthy, with being in the East and our overall talent and depth, we have a chance at being a 65 win team, and I really don't think that's hyperbole. With that depth, great mix of youth and vets, and overall talent level, we have "elite regular season team" written all over us.

Good lineup.    Except Tatum is way too skinny to play any 4.    Gonna be great next season.  Lots of points.

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2017, 06:35:06 PM »

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Coulda had Jahil Okafor. Instead we got this 31 year old

How does signing Baynes rule out Okafor? Unless you think Okafor is going to be waived/bought out and then sign for the room exception, they're totally unrelated
It doesn't totally rule it out, but it makes the roster more packed and adding Okafor at this point makes it more unbalanced.

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2017, 06:37:50 PM »

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Coulda had Jahil Okafor. Instead we got this 31 year old

How does signing Baynes rule out Okafor? Unless you think Okafor is going to be waived/bought out and then sign for the room exception, they're totally unrelated
Has there been recent talk about getting Okafor that I've missed?  Not sure who on the current roster I'd want to part with for JO.   

Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2017, 06:41:26 PM »

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Coulda had Jahil Okafor. Instead we got this 31 year old

How does signing Baynes rule out Okafor? Unless you think Okafor is going to be waived/bought out and then sign for the room exception, they're totally unrelated
Has there been recent talk about getting Okafor that I've missed?  Not sure who on the current roster I'd want to part with for JO.
There is literally nobody on this roster that I'd part with for Okafor.

Keep him away.
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Re: Aron Baynes agrees to 1-year, $4.3M deal with the Celtics
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2017, 06:47:36 PM »

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Love, love, love this signing. Last year our team was a bit soft at times, especially in the bigs department. But adding Morris, Baynes, and Zizic should really make us a lot tougher as a team. I'm really loving our depth chart about now:

PG: IT, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart, Green (?)
SF: Hayward, Crowder, Semi
PF: Morris, Tatum, Yabu
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

That is a DEEP team. If we stay healthy, with being in the East and our overall talent and depth, we have a chance at being a 65 win team, and I really don't think that's hyperbole. With that depth, great mix of youth and vets, and overall talent level, we have "elite regular season team" written all over us.

I'm excited too, but you're going to be disappointed if 65 wins is a target.  That's championship elite, and the Celtics won't be there without one more major acquisition or substantial growth from Brown or Tatum. 55-58 wins is where I see us -- legitimately improved, perhaps the top team in the conference, but we're still a pretty young and inexperienced team, relying on multiple players who are not yet of legal drinking age for significant contributions.  We could have up to 7 players who are rookies or in their second year.  There will be very real growing pains.  There's a lot of talent in the depth, but short on inexperience, and during a long season with both injuries and necessary rest, that will put a lower ceiling on the wins.

If healthy, 60 is expected in my book!!

Smitty77

Another glutton for disappointment.

60 wins isn't some unattainable goal. The East got worse the C's got much better.

Yeah, I'd say 65 wins is the ceiling/everything goes right limit for this team, but not something that should be expected with all of the contingencies involved, e.g. health, youth development, etc.

But 60 wins should be an actual goal that we can and should hit. People forget that we actually dealt with quite a few injuries last year, and that really cost us several games, especially early in the year when we were still learning to play together with Horford. Adding significantly more high-level talent, along with significantly improved depth, should easily push us to the level of a 60 win team, especially when you consider the fact that the East is weaker than it has been for a long time.

And as for this "us being younger" narrative, I'm not sure I buy it. Of our top-10 rotation players (IT, TR, JB, MS, GH, JC, MM, JT, AH, and AB), only two of them are 21 years old or younger, and only four of them are on rookie contracts. But both Rozier and Smart, especially Smart, are vets at this point with as much high-level winning basketball as they've played.

We only get really young with the third stringers/end of the bench players, which is pretty standard. Personally, I love the balance of veterans and young guys we have on the team.

EDIT: We're also a significantly more balanced team this year, which will also help greatly. Having a true secondary scorer is going to really help us in crunch time and when IT sits, and Jae moving back to the bench along with Tatum should further help the bench scoring woes. I think we're definitely seven wins better than last year, especially in a significantly weaker East.
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