Gordon Hayward Chat

[guava_wrench]

I think it's been noted in a few different places (most recently on Lowe's podcast last week) that Hayward was pretty p---ed at Utah's contract offers at one point.  This is the generally accepted biggest reason for why Horford left ATL so it's certainly a possibility the same happens with Hayward.

Meh. Horford is old so Atl was cautious, despite his long history with them. Sounds like Utah negotiated as they should have and now will pony up with his performance and their playing well. Also made sense for Horford to move to team that looks like it is on the upswing. Utah is already on the upswing. Boston isn't necessarily greener pastures.

[kozlodoev]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

[tankcity!]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

[Smokeeye123]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

Tell me the teams lopez would be third string on; love to hear it.

Plus the celtics can get Hayward AND a PF/C through trade. It really wouldnt be hard with all their picks and glut of guard depth.

[mef730]

Should we re-open the Carmelo Anthony threads again? Absorbing him into our cap space is the main price we would have to pay. He could also play PF.

I have typed the name Hayward on this board so many times, I forgot he wasn't a Celtic.

Let's hope that he remembers that he was a Bulldog.

What the heck does Brian Scalabrine know about Gordon Hayward's offseason intentions? I bet he would of said something similar about Durant last year.

Hayward will be in green next year just wait.

Odd, I don't remember their ever saying that Durant would sign in Utah.

Mike

[kozlodoev]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

[tankcity!]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

Why? His defense has been down this year and he's not better than Hayward. Crowder is an asset, and you can add other pieces to get a better player. You could actually even trade Crowder for your boy Monroe if you wanted...Would love if you provided insight on why you like or dislike players. And you're not mortgaging anything. What are you exactly morgating? It's just cash. And we still have our Brooklyn picks. What is your alternative? I mean this is kind of a bridge team if you're honest with yourself. No player out there is going to make us contenders to beat GS, unless you somehow get Davis. So again, not getting the logic.

[boscel33]

What the heck does Brian Scalabrine know about Gordon Hayward's offseason intentions? I bet he would of said something similar about Durant last year.

Hayward will be in green next year just wait.

Well, probably more than a lot on this board, besides, it was Isola who was doing the dirt dishing.

[freshinthehouse]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

This.  I have no qualms with Hayward, but he doesnt fit the roster.  We will more than likely be bringing in a highly coveted rookie that will play one of the wing positions (at least on defense).  I'd look at signing Zach Randolph to a one year deal.  Far from a long term fix, but he would help next year.  Hopefully we can either add a big in the 2018 draft or by that time Zizic or Yabu are ready for a more prominent role with the team.

[Shoot the J]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Drummond. Can't recall his contract situation, but Detroit was supposedly listening to offers for him this past season.

[Darío SpanishFan]

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

Intentional signing by Ainge just in case we had to trade equal salaries for a star in midseason. I don't think he gets half of this amount next year.

[Evantime34]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

The Celtics have been absolutely killing it with Crowder at the 4 this post season. I think if we bring in Hayward it will be to play next to Crowder at the 3/4.

Sure the rebounding wouldn't be good but we would be outscoring teams to the point it doesn't matter.

[jambr380]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

Why? His defense has been down this year and he's not better than Hayward. Crowder is an asset, and you can add other pieces to get a better player. You could actually even trade Crowder for your boy Monroe if you wanted...Would love if you provided insight on why you like or dislike players. And you're not mortgaging anything. What are you exactly morgating? It's just cash. And we still have our Brooklyn picks. What is your alternative? I mean this is kind of a bridge team if you're honest with yourself. No player out there is going to make us contenders to beat GS, unless you somehow get Davis. So again, not getting the logic.

I don't think Ainge has any interest in trading Crowder. Obviously Hayward is a better player, but I am not sure why people think ownership will be willing to pay the highest luxury tax bill in league history, which is what will happen if we trade Crowder and re-sign all of our upcoming free agents (IT, Smart, AB).

Ainge will absolutely go for Hayward or another max-level FA this season, but AB will likely on his way out the door, not Crowder. I guess it's also possible somebody blows away Ainge with a Smart deal.

[tankcity!]

Listening to SiriusXM this morning (Isola and Scal), they were both pretty convinced that Hayward re-signs with Utah.

Have to say, that was a bummer to hear. 

I was hoping to sign him in the summer.

Don't need him, don't want him, don't really care about where he goes.

Use the cap space to make sure the team no longer gets embarrassed by just about everyone's third string center.

What are some realistic options to fill that role?

Paul Millsap, Zach Randolph, even Greg Monroe. Heck, if you feel adventurous, push in the chips for Blake Griffin, but don't get another SG/SF just because you can.

If you'd rather have Randolph or Monroe than Hayward then please PM your source. That's grade A stuff right there.

Yeah, I'm the type of guy who'd rather have a pair of Chuck Taylors than two right-foot Air Jordans. Sue me.

So starting Hayward, having Brown on the bench, and trading Crowder for a big doesn't work? I'd rather not sign anyone and have space for two max free agents next year then signing Milsap or Randolph. Really don't get the logic behind getting those bigs...They're old and will be overpaid.

Also, like my sig?

No, not really interested in trading Crowder. Not to mention that the type of big you can get at his salary slot will be rather uninspiring (hint: Tyler Zeller made $8 million last year). So if you're mortgaging the house to get Hayward, you're out of cap money and have no big except for Al Horford under contract.

Yes, I like your sig. 18 ppg say that Schroder acquitted himself nicely last season.

Why? His defense has been down this year and he's not better than Hayward. Crowder is an asset, and you can add other pieces to get a better player. You could actually even trade Crowder for your boy Monroe if you wanted...Would love if you provided insight on why you like or dislike players. And you're not mortgaging anything. What are you exactly morgating? It's just cash. And we still have our Brooklyn picks. What is your alternative? I mean this is kind of a bridge team if you're honest with yourself. No player out there is going to make us contenders to beat GS, unless you somehow get Davis. So again, not getting the logic.

I don't think Ainge has any interest in trading Crowder. Obviously Hayward is a better player, but I am not sure why people think ownership will be willing to pay the highest luxury tax bill in league history, which is what will happen if we trade Crowder and re-sign all of our upcoming free agents (IT, Smart, AB).

Ainge will absolutely go for Hayward or another max-level FA this season, but AB will likely on his way out the door, not Crowder. I guess it's also possible somebody blows away Ainge with a Smart deal.

Honestly Ideally you can play Crowder at 4 during crunch time. If it was me, I wouldn't trade Crowder and keep both Hayward and him. However Koz wants a big, lol. So i made that suggestion since he was so into getting a big and thought signing Hayward would get in the way of that.

[Phantom255x]

Hayward REALLY struggled last night.

12 points and 4 rebounds, 4 assists on 4/15 shooting