Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better

[walker834]

why is the brooklyn pick way more valuable than smart?  because people like to bully people into thinking it is?

It's not like this draft has tim duncan in it. 

[tankcity!]

why is the brooklyn pick way more valuable than smart?  because people like to bully people into thinking it is?

It's not like this draft has tim duncan in it.

Bully? What is your reason for Smart being more valuable? There is no one bullying. We're using common sense. Smart isn't going to be an all start...There is a chance you can get one with the Bklyn pick. Also this is a loaded draft.

[GratefulCs]

Someone on this thread just said Smart > Fultz... yeah we properly value our players here.

Smart was the #6 pick in what was considered a loaded draft. How can you say for certain that Smart isn't better than Fultz? Lots of good college guys don't dominate in the NBA - at least Smart has an all-NBA skill with killer 'intangibles.'

As for Smart succeeding somewhere else - I guess. I mean, if he had a starting spot on a team with fewer aspirations, then perhaps he could gain more confidence. At the very least, he could be an everyday PG and be on the court for all 'crunch time' minutes. With the IT, AB, Smart on-court trio not exactly being dominant, Smart may be only a defensive replacement at the end of games on the Cs.

Lol. Do you even know what you're saying? Brooklyn pick>Smart.

the Brooklyn pick is way more valuable than smart

But that doesn't mean that player will be better

I thought the whole point of it being valuable was because it can net a player better than role player extraordinaire, Marcus Smart. Unless Danny's drafting is as bad as people say, I don't see how you can not get a player better than Marcus at #3 in THIS draft.

i think it can definitely net a better player

But let's not pretend like busts don't exist

[walker834]

Marcus was a better college player and  prospect than a lot of the guys in this draft.  He's been in the league 3 years or so and is still young.

I can see where to some GM's it might be but that doesn't mean it's more valuable. I think most smart GM's would covet Smart just the same.

I wouldn't take most of the pg's in this draft over smart.  Giles and jackson are talented prospects who are going to take some time. Tatum is somewhat overrated imo. 

Fultz, Smith are completely different kinds of guards.  So is Fox.   Fultz and Smitha re  much more ball dominant.  Ball is more of an enigma player who is being overhyped somewhat.

Fox is more in line with guys like Jeff Teague.  Smooth offensively but not a defender and is going to take time as well.

[tankcity!]

Someone on this thread just said Smart > Fultz... yeah we properly value our players here.

Smart was the #6 pick in what was considered a loaded draft. How can you say for certain that Smart isn't better than Fultz? Lots of good college guys don't dominate in the NBA - at least Smart has an all-NBA skill with killer 'intangibles.'

As for Smart succeeding somewhere else - I guess. I mean, if he had a starting spot on a team with fewer aspirations, then perhaps he could gain more confidence. At the very least, he could be an everyday PG and be on the court for all 'crunch time' minutes. With the IT, AB, Smart on-court trio not exactly being dominant, Smart may be only a defensive replacement at the end of games on the Cs.

Lol. Do you even know what you're saying? Brooklyn pick>Smart.

the Brooklyn pick is way more valuable than smart

But that doesn't mean that player will be better

Hopefully Smart improves, but if he doesn't, he will be a 20 minute a game player when this team starts contending. I'm pretty confident the top 6 are better players than Smart. I also think Jaylen Brown will end up being better. Same with Rozier. But that is a separate argument.

You're making Smart out to be this great player when thus far, he is nothing more than tony Allen/Lindsay Hunter. Hoping he shows us more than he has thus far this season.

[GratefulCs]

why is the brooklyn pick way more valuable than smart?  because people like to bully people into thinking it is?

It's not like this draft has tim duncan in it.

i love smart

But I think teams would rather want the pick in a trade. If they had to choose

[tankcity!]

Someone on this thread just said Smart > Fultz... yeah we properly value our players here.

Smart was the #6 pick in what was considered a loaded draft. How can you say for certain that Smart isn't better than Fultz? Lots of good college guys don't dominate in the NBA - at least Smart has an all-NBA skill with killer 'intangibles.'

As for Smart succeeding somewhere else - I guess. I mean, if he had a starting spot on a team with fewer aspirations, then perhaps he could gain more confidence. At the very least, he could be an everyday PG and be on the court for all 'crunch time' minutes. With the IT, AB, Smart on-court trio not exactly being dominant, Smart may be only a defensive replacement at the end of games on the Cs.

Lol. Do you even know what you're saying? Brooklyn pick>Smart.

the Brooklyn pick is way more valuable than smart

But that doesn't mean that player will be better

I thought the whole point of it being valuable was because it can net a player better than role player extraordinaire, Marcus Smart. Unless Danny's drafting is as bad as people say, I don't see how you can not get a player better than Marcus at #3 in THIS draft.

i think it can definitely net a better player

But let's not pretend like busts don't exist

Let's not pretend like Smart can't still bust out as well if he doesn't improve his offense.

[tankcity!]

Marcus was a better college player and  prospect than a lot of the guys in this draft.  He's been in the league 3 years or so and is still young.

I can see where to some GM's it might be but that doesn't mean it's more valuable. I think most smart GM's would covet Smart just the same.

I wouldn't take most of the pg's in this draft over smart.  Giles and jackson are talented prospects who are going to take some time. Tatum is somewhat overrated imo. 

Fultz, Smith are completely different kinds of guards.  So is Fox.   Fultz and Smitha re  much more ball dominant.  Ball is more of an enigma player who is being overhyped somewhat.

Fox is more in line with guys like Jeff Teague.  Smooth offensively but not a defender and is going to take time as well.

Dude, you clearly haven't looked anything up and are talking out of your butt. You should compare Smart's stats to Fultz's and you'll see the difference. Smart wasn't effective on offense in college either. And he played two years in college.

[jambr380]

Someone on this thread just said Smart > Fultz... yeah we properly value our players here.

Smart was the #6 pick in what was considered a loaded draft. How can you say for certain that Smart isn't better than Fultz? Lots of good college guys don't dominate in the NBA - at least Smart has an all-NBA skill with killer 'intangibles.'

As for Smart succeeding somewhere else - I guess. I mean, if he had a starting spot on a team with fewer aspirations, then perhaps he could gain more confidence. At the very least, he could be an everyday PG and be on the court for all 'crunch time' minutes. With the IT, AB, Smart on-court trio not exactly being dominant, Smart may be only a defensive replacement at the end of games on the Cs.

Lol. Do you even know what you're saying? Brooklyn pick>Smart.

the Brooklyn pick is way more valuable than smart

But that doesn't mean that player will be better

TP Grateful for being the only person to 'decipher' what I was saying.

Yes, the BKN pick is considerably more valuable than Smart - an unknown high lottery pick is one of the most valuable pieces a team can have.

I was responding to the poster who said that Fultz was obviously better than Smart, when that may not necessarily end up being true. When Smart was drafted, he was really highly rated, just like Fultz is now. Fultz may or may not blow by Smart as an NBA player, but we can't be so sure just yet.

[walker834]

Marcus was a better college player and  prospect than a lot of the guys in this draft.  He's been in the league 3 years or so and is still young.

I can see where to some GM's it might be but that doesn't mean it's more valuable. I think most smart GM's would covet Smart just the same.

I wouldn't take most of the pg's in this draft over smart.  Giles and jackson are talented prospects who are going to take some time. Tatum is somewhat overrated imo. 

Fultz, Smith are completely different kinds of guards.  So is Fox.   Fultz and Smitha re  much more ball dominant.  Ball is more of an enigma player who is being overhyped somewhat.

Fox is more in line with guys like Jeff Teague.  Smooth offensively but not a defender and is going to take time as well.

Dude, you clearly haven't looked anything up and are talking out of your butt. You should compare Smart's stats to Fultz's and you'll see the difference. Smart wasn't effective on offense in college either. And he played two years in college.

Actually I have.  I just have a different opinion than you.

[tankcity!]

Marcus was a better college player and  prospect than a lot of the guys in this draft.  He's been in the league 3 years or so and is still young.

I can see where to some GM's it might be but that doesn't mean it's more valuable. I think most smart GM's would covet Smart just the same.

I wouldn't take most of the pg's in this draft over smart.  Giles and jackson are talented prospects who are going to take some time. Tatum is somewhat overrated imo. 

Fultz, Smith are completely different kinds of guards.  So is Fox.   Fultz and Smitha re  much more ball dominant.  Ball is more of an enigma player who is being overhyped somewhat.

Fox is more in line with guys like Jeff Teague.  Smooth offensively but not a defender and is going to take time as well.

Dude, you clearly haven't looked anything up and are talking out of your butt. You should compare Smart's stats to Fultz's and you'll see the difference. Smart wasn't effective on offense in college either. And he played two years in college.

Actually I have.  I just have a different opinion than you.

Those stats aren't great at all.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/marcus-smart-1.html

[walker834]

 Fultz and Smith yes they are putting up numbers in college.  They are still much more ball dominant players at the pro level than Smart.

Smart was that in college because of necessity. 

[tankcity!]

Marcus was a better college player and  prospect than a lot of the guys in this draft.  He's been in the league 3 years or so and is still young.

I can see where to some GM's it might be but that doesn't mean it's more valuable. I think most smart GM's would covet Smart just the same.

I wouldn't take most of the pg's in this draft over smart.  Giles and jackson are talented prospects who are going to take some time. Tatum is somewhat overrated imo. 

Fultz, Smith are completely different kinds of guards.  So is Fox.   Fultz and Smitha re  much more ball dominant.  Ball is more of an enigma player who is being overhyped somewhat.

Fox is more in line with guys like Jeff Teague.  Smooth offensively but not a defender and is going to take time as well.

Dude, you clearly haven't looked anything up and are talking out of your butt. You should compare Smart's stats to Fultz's and you'll see the difference. Smart wasn't effective on offense in college either. And he played two years in college.

Actually I have.  I just have a different opinion than you.  Fultz and Smith yes they are putting up numbers in college.  They are still much more ball dominant players at the pro level than Smart.

So IT isn't a good player? Harden sucks? Irving sucks? I really don't get your point lol.

[walker834]

yeah smart shot over 40 percent in college while average 18 and 6 and 3 steals a game. He was a stud.  He was on Fultz's level if not better.

[tankcity!]

yeah smart shot over 40 percent in college while average 18 and 6 and 3 steals a game. He was a stud.  He was on Fultz's level if not better.

Dude shooing 42% from the field, 29% from three in your sophomore year of college isn't great at all.