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Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2016, 11:43:07 AM »

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yeah smart shot over 40 percent in college while average 18 and 6 and 3 steals a game. He was a stud.  He was on Fultz's level if not better.

All I need to do is post this. It speaks for itself, hahaha. This whole thing is funny to me.

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Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #91 on: December 22, 2016, 11:43:44 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #92 on: December 22, 2016, 11:44:20 AM »

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Someone on this thread just said Smart > Fultz... yeah we properly value our players here.

Smart was the #6 pick in what was considered a loaded draft. How can you say for certain that Smart isn't better than Fultz? Lots of good college guys don't dominate in the NBA - at least Smart has an all-NBA skill with killer 'intangibles.'

As for Smart succeeding somewhere else - I guess. I mean, if he had a starting spot on a team with fewer aspirations, then perhaps he could gain more confidence. At the very least, he could be an everyday PG and be on the court for all 'crunch time' minutes. With the IT, AB, Smart on-court trio not exactly being dominant, Smart may be only a defensive replacement at the end of games on the Cs.

Lol. Do you even know what you're saying? Brooklyn pick>Smart.
the Brooklyn pick is way more valuable than smart

But that doesn't mean that player will be better

TP Grateful for being the only person to 'decipher' what I was saying.

Yes, the BKN pick is considerably more valuable than Smart - an unknown high lottery pick is one of the most valuable pieces a team can have.

I was responding to the poster who said that Fultz was obviously better than Smart, when that may not necessarily end up being true. When Smart was drafted, he was really highly rated, just like Fultz is now. Fultz may or may not blow by Smart as an NBA player, but we can't be so sure just yet.
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Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2016, 11:47:35 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #94 on: December 22, 2016, 11:48:24 AM »

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We have IT and Bradley starting. Put Smith and Fultz in Smart's role and lets see them do that. They would be whining about pt and wouldn't do the things Smart does.


Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #95 on: December 22, 2016, 11:49:02 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?
we get it. You hate smart
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Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #96 on: December 22, 2016, 11:49:11 AM »

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We have IT and Bradley starting. Put Smith and Fultz in Smart's role and lets see them do that. They would be whining about pt and wouldn't do the things Smart does.

So you're not going to answer the question?

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #97 on: December 22, 2016, 11:50:36 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?
we get it. You hate smart

Oh yeah, because I'm critical of a player I hate him right? I've said numerous times he is a great role player, but the dude isn't better than Fultz. And for someone with your knowledge to back Walker's claim is just ludicrous.

Sorry but I'm not going to be a bias Celtics fan. Smart is a great player off the bench on a championship team. Clutch as hell. But guess what? That's freaking useless unless your team is a contender.

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #98 on: December 22, 2016, 11:53:31 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?

IT is better than Smart right now.  IT is better than Fultz and Smith too.   Fultz and Smith aren't lebron james. They would b e young guards that would come in and it's not what we need. Bradley is better than Fultz and Smith.


Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #99 on: December 22, 2016, 11:55:51 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?

IT is better than Smart right now.  IT is better than Fultz and Smith too.   Fultz and Smith aren't lebron james. They would b e young guards that would come in and it's not what we need. Bradley is better than Fultz and Smith.

Thank you. That was all I wanted. Please stop using ball dominance as your arguement. It makes no sense. You just think Smart is better, which is fine. Can't wait for Fultz to prove you wrong. Also I don't know why you keep mentioning Smith? I haven't said anything about him.


Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #100 on: December 22, 2016, 11:56:25 AM »

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I could understand if we make a trade where we need a young guard to start ala  Rondo but we don't need that as it stands.

Plus we have Marcus who we have been developing and can start so why do we need Smith or Fultz at all.


Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #101 on: December 22, 2016, 11:59:03 AM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?
we get it. You hate smart

Is there a star in this league that is not ball dominant, though? I think he has a point. Smart was ball dominant in a college system where he was the focus, and he had bad offensive results. Seeing as how this team struggles scoring especially in a second unit that features Smart, I don't see how he is not expendable. Sometimes you can't stop every player from going off(and Smart definitely hasn't this year), that's why you have to be able to go off yourself, a game of runs as they say.

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« Reply #102 on: December 22, 2016, 11:59:24 AM »

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I could understand if we make a trade where we need a young guard to start ala  Rondo but we don't need that as it stands.

Plus we have Marcus who we have been developing and can start so why do we need Smith or Fultz at all.

Because they are better.

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #103 on: December 22, 2016, 12:00:09 PM »

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They are similar to Smart.  More offensive sure but Marcus can score. He's just not in that role right now.

I dont think they are better than Smart.  I'll take Smart.

Re: Marcus Smart needs to leave Boston or his career will never get better
« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2016, 12:04:30 PM »

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I agree he was a volume scorer.  I didn't see him as a guy who was going to come into the pro's and be that but he has potential to be that as time goes.

Fultz and Smith are much more ball dominant and scoring guards.  Marcus's intangibles and work ethic and unselfishness and defense are what set him apart.

He is a capable scorer with time as he becomes more efficient.

Can you just answer one question. Who is better, IT or Smart? Because IT is a scoring guard and I guess you are against having good offensive players. You are also criticizing most superstars by making the point of ball dominance.

You do realize LBJ is ball dominant too right?

IT is better than Smart right now.  IT is better than Fultz and Smith too.   Fultz and Smith aren't lebron james. They would b e young guards that would come in and it's not what we need. Bradley is better than Fultz and Smith.

Thank you. That was all I wanted. Please stop using ball dominance as your arguement. It makes no sense. You just think Smart is better, which is fine. Can't wait for Fultz to prove you wrong. Also I don't know why you keep mentioning Smith? I haven't said anything about him.
prove him wrong? He's taking a logical stance

They COULD be better or worse. No one knows yet.

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