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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2016, 09:36:54 PM »

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Gosh I Want to defend Young so bad but today I was just in shock at how bad he was on defense.. Everybody blew by him and most of these guys today will be Coaching little league in a couple weeks..
Can you lose Athleticism? 

I think its mental with him though.. Every interview he always mentions "Well I Am Young." I think the everybody has beat this into his head and he just isnt hitting it as hard as he needs to be. I think he believes he will grow into it or something..

Funny thing, during the game they pulled up his profile and had the Age as 30 - and neither of the Stupid commentators said anything about it..  The Crazy thing was It got me to thinking that when he turns 30 he would probably still be the same player..

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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2016, 09:44:02 PM »

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As someone said in the game thread, trade him for something, maybe a reclamation project and a 2nd rounder. He still has potential and maybe another team wants to give him a shot.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2016, 09:47:15 PM »

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Quote from: kozlodoev on July 05, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
The reason why guys like Young never get cut is because it's a high risk, low reward move.

A risk in what way?  Aside from that game against Charlotte during his rookie year, he's shown absolutely nothing in two years, and he's even regressed in the d-league :o. Oh well, at least he got a nose ring and that hair, tho, lol ;D. Ugh.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2016, 09:53:45 PM »

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yes his defence was woeful but his confidence for once showed....that three pointer bomb at the end hopefully will be the turning point in his life lol! In order to win the summer league, he has to contribute! So let's see :) relax people xD time is on our side xD
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2016, 09:58:38 PM »

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Quote from: Beat LA on July 04, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: guava_wrench on July 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
We drafted him as a project, so I assume that Ainge understood that he could be half-baked at this point and could need more time learning the game.

Unfortunately for Young, Ainge stockpiled picks and the team got good, and now we have a roster crunch. This could lead Ainge to cut bait quicker than he would have otherwise. Also, we have Brown, who already looks close to being a contributor.

If he still seems like a better prospect than our late picks, Danny would just keep him and let the late round picks walk.

Can we please stop taking players who need to 'learn the game'?  How do guys even make it to the NBA without knowing how to play?  I'm just sick and tired of the, "well, he has all of the tools to be a great player, but he doesn't have the skill yet,' or the , "he doesn't know how to play and/or work, but he's such a great athlete that we'll teach him that stuff later," mantras.  If a guy doesn't have any skill by the time he's drafted, he's not just going to wake up one morning and become an all star, nor should he have been drafted in the first place, imo.  Ugh.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2016, 10:01:35 PM »

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Quote from: D Dub on July 05, 2016, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: Beat LA on July 04, 2016, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: guava_wrench on July 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
We drafted him as a project, so I assume that Ainge understood that he could be half-baked at this point and could need more time learning the game.

Unfortunately for Young, Ainge stockpiled picks and the team got good, and now we have a roster crunch. This could lead Ainge to cut bait quicker than he would have otherwise. Also, we have Brown, who already looks close to being a contributor.

If he still seems like a better prospect than our late picks, Danny would just keep him and let the late round picks walk.

Can we please stop taking players who need to 'learn the game'?  How do guys even make it to the NBA without knowing how to play?  I'm just sick and tired of the, "well, he has all of the tools to be a great player, but he doesn't have the skill yet,' or the , "he doesn't know how to play and/or work, but he's such a great athlete that we'll teach him that stuff later," mantras.  If a guy doesn't have any skill by the time he's drafted, he's not just going to wake up one morning and become an all star, nor should he have been drafted in the first place, imo.  Ugh.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2016, 10:02:21 PM »

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I'm so not pro-James Young, but commentary on this kid is so negatively skewed its almost ridiculous...

James Young was drafted for his offensive upside. Celtics is near the bottom of the league in 3-point scoring and in the last two games the kid has hit 6 of 7. Newsflash most NBA players aren't two-way players, they specialize in one end of the court and try to be serviceable on the other end. So knocking an offensive player on their defense is like saying you won't take Dirk Nowitzki because he doesn't block shots. If at 20 years old, he's at this stage I'm actually encouraged. I will stick with Young until he's around 24 for the simple reason that you have rookies like Hield and Dunn that at 23 are just entering the league. The problem with making the jump to the pros early is that whilst he would be playing several more games for his college team when he became pro he mostly rides the pine. Treat him like a draft-and-stash, but from what I've seen thusfar I'm encouraged.
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2016, 10:08:09 PM »

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Quote from: __ramonezy__ on July 05, 2016, 10:02:21 PM
I'm so not pro-James Young, but commentary on this kid is so negatively skewed its almost ridiculous...

James Young was drafted for his offensive upside. Celtics is near the bottom of the league in 3-point scoring and in the last two games the kid has hit 6 of 7. Newsflash most NBA players aren't two-way players, they specialize in one end of the court and try to be serviceable on the other end. So knocking an offensive player on their defense is like saying you won't take Dirk Nowitzki because he doesn't block shots. If at 20 years old, he's at this stage I'm actually encouraged. I will stick with Young until he's around 24 for the simple reason that you have rookies like Hield and Dunn that at 23 are just entering the league. The problem with making the jump to the pros early is that whilst he would be playing several more games for his college team when he became pro he mostly rides the pine. Treat him like a draft-and-stash, but from what I've seen thusfar I'm encouraged.

I agree, Young could develop into a nice 3 point specialist, like Korver.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2016, 10:12:30 PM »

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Quote from: The_Truth on July 05, 2016, 10:08:09 PM
Quote from: __ramonezy__ on July 05, 2016, 10:02:21 PM
I'm so not pro-James Young, but commentary on this kid is so negatively skewed its almost ridiculous...

James Young was drafted for his offensive upside. Celtics is near the bottom of the league in 3-point scoring and in the last two games the kid has hit 6 of 7. Newsflash most NBA players aren't two-way players, they specialize in one end of the court and try to be serviceable on the other end. So knocking an offensive player on their defense is like saying you won't take Dirk Nowitzki because he doesn't block shots. If at 20 years old, he's at this stage I'm actually encouraged. I will stick with Young until he's around 24 for the simple reason that you have rookies like Hield and Dunn that at 23 are just entering the league. The problem with making the jump to the pros early is that whilst he would be playing several more games for his college team when he became pro he mostly rides the pine. Treat him like a draft-and-stash, but from what I've seen thusfar I'm encouraged.

I agree, Young could develop into a nice 3 point specialist, like Korver.

Yeah, the shooting has been nice and he has proven it over the long haul in the D-League. However, once he is ready to really contribute, he will be past his rookie contract and getting paid a lot more. If another team is interested, then I am willing to move on from him. It's too bad we weren't able to stash him at the start of his rookie contract.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2016, 10:33:16 PM »

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Quote from: ashanm10 on July 05, 2016, 09:53:45 PM

Lma0, TP ;D. Where did you find this gem?
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2016, 10:35:29 PM »

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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2016, 10:37:45 PM »

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Why do we need to cut him?  Not really seeing anyone else on our summer league roster worth cutting him over.  I don't see where overpaying some vet with limited upside helps us either.  Find me a better option.  Young can play in the d-league.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2016, 10:42:51 PM »

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A reminder you're better off playing blackjack in Las Vegas than drafting one of these 18-19yos. You just don't know what they will grow into.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2016, 11:29:31 PM »

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From what i'm seeing he shouldn't be cut he has made all but one 3 these 2 games. His confidence has improved and his offense has started to show. He is a 3 pointer shooter and is starting to look reliable. His defense is bad he can't stick anybody but he has gotten some steals he has a knack for reading passing lanes because I have seen him do this in game with his limited minutes I think he just needs to deny the ball everytime he is on the floor and that could help cover up his defense
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« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2016, 11:32:03 PM »

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