Rumor: Celtics, among others, in contact with Sixers about Noel/Okafor

[colincb]

Who do you believe?

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227534984421376

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227769672511489

He loses credibility when he says that "sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want."

We also already know that Crowder was the sticking point in a Butler deal with Chicago at the deadline, so this guy is pretty full of it.

He's elaborating on that tweet now. It was a dumb tweet.

Sure teams would take Avery Bradley...but "Sullinger/Smart or Olynk and #16 for this guy..." isn't going to work.

No Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. Sherlock, Sully is a FA, Dumb tweet and when was Russillo a BB guy?

The first tweet is probably right though.

[dreamgreen]

Who do you believe?

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227534984421376

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227769672511489

He loses credibility when he says that "sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want."

We also already know that Crowder was the sticking point in a Butler deal with Chicago at the deadline, so this guy is pretty full of it.

He's elaborating on that tweet now. It was a dumb tweet.

Sure teams would take Avery Bradley...but "Sullinger/Smart or Olynk and #16 for this guy..." isn't going to work.

No **** Sherlock, Sully is a FA, Dumb tweet and when was Russillo a BB guy?

The first tweet is probably right though.

No GM wants IT, AB or Crowder?

[BitterJim]

Everyone who relies on advanced stats - in addition to that mistake - to hate on Okafor, makes another mistake. He's going to improve. He's 19.

Sorry to break it to you.

It isn't all about analytics.  Did you watch what was happening in the finals to Ezili?  The Cavs were pulling him out to the perimeter and targeting him.  G.S. was doing the same thing to Adams and Kanter in the O.K.C. series.  You force switches on the perimeter to get a slow big on a smaller quicker guy and shoot over him or beat him off the dribble.  It happened all season and is only going to escalate even more because guys like Okafor can't begin to defend this or even there own man when defending someone like Olynyk, Bender Or Porzingis.  Gasol and Randolph, Hibbert, Monroe, Big Al etc. are all going to struggle mightily if they are not allowed to stay near the paint, they simply do not have the foot speed to defend on the perimeter. 

There is just no way you can give up the quality scoring opportunities that slow bigs are going to give up in the foreseeable future and get enough offense out of a post scoring big centered offense to win games, let alone titles.  If the Celtics brass don't see this and make the mistake of trading for Okafor I will be shocked beyond belief.

And here, dear reader, is a perfect example of the mistake I allude to.

Okafor hate on this board is ALWAYS linked to the notion that what you saw last year is all you possibly can get from him.

Nothing - nothing - could be further from the truth and any claim otherwise should not be taken seriously. It's nonsense.

There are reasons, and then there are excuses. You see the latter above.

Sad news for all the people who can't stand this kid: He is going to get better. All elements of his game will improve, from his body evolving out of his teen years to his offense, defense, rebounding, et al. Ainge was NOT wrong to inquire about him at the deadline.

Did you respond to the wrong post? Nothing The Oracle said indicated that he doesn't think Okafor will change (in fact, it barely referenced Okafor at all)

Unless you are saying that Okafor will change from a slow-footed defender to one with good lateral mobility, which isn't gonna happen

[Phantom255x]

#3 and Hunter for Okafor, Covington and #24  (If we can't trade for Butler)

Covington plays behind Crowder at the 3 (our depth at 3 is extremely thin behind Crowder)

We can use #24 to pick someone with tons of potential who would probably be taken somewhere between #24-30 (like Thon Maker?).

[tankcity!]

Who do you believe?

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227534984421376

https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/745227769672511489

He loses credibility when he says that "sentiment around league is that Boston doesn't have anyone on roster that other GMs really want."

We also already know that Crowder was the sticking point in a Butler deal with Chicago at the deadline, so this guy is pretty full of it.

He's elaborating on that tweet now. It was a dumb tweet.

Sure teams would take Avery Bradley...but "Sullinger/Smart or Olynk and #16 for this guy..." isn't going to work.

No **** Sherlock, Sully is a FA, Dumb tweet and when was Russillo a BB guy?

The first tweet is probably right though.

Those are some really dumb tweets by russielo considering it goes against everything we have read. You idiot, it's clear we can trade for noel and okafor. Those are legit starters so you're tweet doesn't make sense.

Russielo is from Boston, but he has always been down on the celtics, even when they had KG. Was dead wrong about that team too.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

[tankcity!]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

You must be feeling redeemed after the new report about Bender's bad workouts came out, lol.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

You must be feeling redeemed after the new report about Bender's bad workouts came out, lol.

I'm not sure what Bender has to do with the credibility of talk show hosts, but whatever.

[GratefulCs]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

yup

[tankcity!]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

You must be feeling redeemed after the new report about Bender's bad workouts came out, lol.

I'm not sure what Bender has to do with the credibility of talk show hosts, but whatever.

No it has nothing to do with credibility. Just remembered you were getting bashed on your Bender take...And now reports have come out Bender didn't perform well in his workouts overseas for NBA teams including the Celtics. The report was posted on this thread.

[jpotter33]

So, apparently Simmons worked out for Philly this morning after saying he wouldn't work out for any teams.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643414-76ers-2016-nba-draft-rumors-latest-buzz-speculation-surrounding-no-1-pick

I mean, is this just not further proof that they're seriously considering trading down for Dunn and other prospects? As late as last week he was simply refusing to work out for any teams, because he didn't really need to being by far the #1 rated prospect.

Apparently, he's also already gained around 20 pounds of "muscle," not really - but still 20 pounds, since the end of his LSU season.

[tankcity!]

So, apparently Simmons worked out for Philly this morning after saying he wouldn't work out for any teams.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643414-76ers-2016-nba-draft-rumors-latest-buzz-speculation-surrounding-no-1-pick

I mean, is this just not further proof that they're seriously considering trading down for Dunn and other prospects? As late as last week he was simply refusing to work out for any teams, because he didn't really need to being by far the #1 rated prospect.

Apparently, he's also already gained around 20 pounds of "muscle," not really - but still 20 pounds, since the end of his LSU season.

Hard to read too much into it. I think they want Simmons and Dunn honestly.

[jpotter33]

So, apparently Simmons worked out for Philly this morning after saying he wouldn't work out for any teams.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643414-76ers-2016-nba-draft-rumors-latest-buzz-speculation-surrounding-no-1-pick

I mean, is this just not further proof that they're seriously considering trading down for Dunn and other prospects? As late as last week he was simply refusing to work out for any teams, because he didn't really need to being by far the #1 rated prospect.

Apparently, he's also already gained around 20 pounds of "muscle," not really - but still 20 pounds, since the end of his LSU season.

Hard to read too much into it. I think they want Simmons and Dunn honestly.

I'm sure they do, but I just don't see a Okafor or Noel for #3 straight up deal. I think they'll end up caving on some type of 3-way with us and Chicago where they give up a little more. Danny will most likely take Dunn regardless now to force a trade with someone.

[tankcity!]

So, apparently Simmons worked out for Philly this morning after saying he wouldn't work out for any teams.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643414-76ers-2016-nba-draft-rumors-latest-buzz-speculation-surrounding-no-1-pick

I mean, is this just not further proof that they're seriously considering trading down for Dunn and other prospects? As late as last week he was simply refusing to work out for any teams, because he didn't really need to being by far the #1 rated prospect.

Apparently, he's also already gained around 20 pounds of "muscle," not really - but still 20 pounds, since the end of his LSU season.

Hard to read too much into it. I think they want Simmons and Dunn honestly.

I'm sure they do, but I just don't see a Okafor or Noel for #3 straight up deal. I think they'll end up caving on some type of 3-way with us and Chicago where they give up a little more. Danny will most likely take Dunn regardless now to force a trade with someone.

Or they just don't end up getting Dunn. The Celtics have the leverage cause the Sixers have botched this entire situation. Not surprised there. Hinkie was better at this game. I think Okafor will be traded though and they will keep Noel. They seem adamant on trading Okafor. It will be interesting to see what they get for him. I think whoever lands Okafor will end up winning the trade imo. Hope we can get him for one of our guards.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not sure why people take talk show hosts seriously for any sort of basketball rumours. Most of them are quacks whose job is to fill air time.

You must be feeling redeemed after the new report about Bender's bad workouts came out, lol.

I'm not sure what Bender has to do with the credibility of talk show hosts, but whatever.

No it has nothing to do with credibility. Just remembered you were getting bashed on your Bender take...And now reports have come out Bender didn't perform well in his workouts overseas for NBA teams including the Celtics. The report was posted on this thread.

Well, then I appreciate your completely irrelevant reply... I guess?