Author Topic: Vlade Wants To Keep DeMarcus Cousins But Willing To Test Market For First Time  (Read 19785 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline SuperCeltic92

  • Jordan Walsh
  • Posts: 21
  • Tommy Points: 0
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Offline LatterDayCelticsfan

  • Bailey Howell
  • **
  • Posts: 2257
  • Tommy Points: 176
  • Ruto Must Go!
Why send contracts out? Lets absorb him with our cap space.
Ruto Must Go!

Offline rondohondo

  • NCE
  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10764
  • Tommy Points: 1196
Why send contracts out? Lets absorb him with our cap space.

cause then we would have more cap room to sign another max and a 10 mi+ player.

Offline A Future of Stevens

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2795
  • Tommy Points: 526
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Now I think Sacramento isn't getting nearly enough. The best center in the league (24 year old no less) AND the 8th overall pick for Love and a 1-3 in a "weak draft".

However this does help cleveland a bit. Sully is like a poor man's love, but those picks aren't bad. Maybe throw them a few more 2nds and it's semi realistic. Might have to include one of the young guys.
#JKJB

Offline SuperCeltic92

  • Jordan Walsh
  • Posts: 21
  • Tommy Points: 0
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Now I think Sacramento isn't getting nearly enough. The best center in the league (24 year old no less) AND the 8th overall pick for Love and a 1-3 in a "weak draft".

However this does help cleveland a bit. Sully is like a poor man's love, but those picks aren't bad. Maybe throw them a few more 2nds and it's semi realistic. Might have to include one of the young guys.
They're getting one of the top PF's in the game and a lottery pick, CLE might have to throw another body their way, but SAC will have some space to work with.

I think Sullinger could be an asset to CLE. They get a very good rebounder to pair with Thompson, I was thinking of sending Crowder their way and James would move to the 4 and CLE would play small ball.

Offline A Future of Stevens

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2795
  • Tommy Points: 526
Yea, but they are giving up a younger, relatively better for his position (best center compared to top 10 pf) player, at a position of scarcity, and a mid lotto pick on top of that? I just don't see even the kings agreeing to that.
#JKJB

Online Moranis

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 34680
  • Tommy Points: 1603
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Now I think Sacramento isn't getting nearly enough. The best center in the league (24 year old no less) AND the 8th overall pick for Love and a 1-3 in a "weak draft".

However this does help cleveland a bit. Sully is like a poor man's love, but those picks aren't bad. Maybe throw them a few more 2nds and it's semi realistic. Might have to include one of the young guys.
They're getting one of the top PF's in the game and a lottery pick, CLE might have to throw another body their way, but SAC will have some space to work with.

I think Sullinger could be an asset to CLE. They get a very good rebounder to pair with Thompson, I was thinking of sending Crowder their way and James would move to the 4 and CLE would play small ball.
you can't do that trade until after the draft so none of the teams get to pick the player they want.  Plus it is a terrible trade for everyone not named Boston.
2025 Historical Draft - Cleveland Cavaliers - 1st pick

Starters - Luka, JB, Lebron, Wemby, Shaq
Rotation - D. Daniels, Mitchell, G. Wallace, Melo, Noah
Deep Bench - Korver, Turner

Offline A Future of Stevens

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2795
  • Tommy Points: 526
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Now I think Sacramento isn't getting nearly enough. The best center in the league (24 year old no less) AND the 8th overall pick for Love and a 1-3 in a "weak draft".

However this does help cleveland a bit. Sully is like a poor man's love, but those picks aren't bad. Maybe throw them a few more 2nds and it's semi realistic. Might have to include one of the young guys.
They're getting one of the top PF's in the game and a lottery pick, CLE might have to throw another body their way, but SAC will have some space to work with.

I think Sullinger could be an asset to CLE. They get a very good rebounder to pair with Thompson, I was thinking of sending Crowder their way and James would move to the 4 and CLE would play small ball.
you can't do that trade until after the draft so none of the teams get to pick the player they want.  Plus it is a terrible trade for everyone not named Boston.

Looks like we are on the same page lol
#JKJB

Online Moranis

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 34680
  • Tommy Points: 1603
Any chance this happens?

3-Way Trade with Cleveland and Sacramento:

BOS Receives:
C/F DeMarcus Cousins
2016 SAC 1st Round Pick (#8)

CLE Receives:
C/F Jared Sullinger (Sign and Trade)
2016 DAL 1st Round Pick (#16)
2016 BOS 2nd Round Pick (#45)

SAC Receives:
2016 BKN 1st Round Pick (#1-5)
F Kevin Love

Why would Cleveland do that? They can get much better value for Love than that.
Revised**

Now I think Sacramento isn't getting nearly enough. The best center in the league (24 year old no less) AND the 8th overall pick for Love and a 1-3 in a "weak draft".

However this does help cleveland a bit. Sully is like a poor man's love, but those picks aren't bad. Maybe throw them a few more 2nds and it's semi realistic. Might have to include one of the young guys.
They're getting one of the top PF's in the game and a lottery pick, CLE might have to throw another body their way, but SAC will have some space to work with.

I think Sullinger could be an asset to CLE. They get a very good rebounder to pair with Thompson, I was thinking of sending Crowder their way and James would move to the 4 and CLE would play small ball.
you can't do that trade until after the draft so none of the teams get to pick the player they want.  Plus it is a terrible trade for everyone not named Boston.

Looks like we are on the same page lol
I do think a trade could work for all 3 teams.  Something like this makes some sense (with Cousins still coming to Boston, though I think the trade with those three teams that makes even more sense would have Cousins going to Cleveland and Love coming to Boston).

Boston - Cousins
Sacto - Love, Dal 1st, Phi 2nd
Cleve - Crowder, Smart, Jerebko, Bos 1st

This one I think makes even more sense
Boston - Love
Sacto - Smart, Johnson, Kaun, Bos 1st, BKN 2017, return Sacto 1st (from Cle)
Cleve - Cousins
2025 Historical Draft - Cleveland Cavaliers - 1st pick

Starters - Luka, JB, Lebron, Wemby, Shaq
Rotation - D. Daniels, Mitchell, G. Wallace, Melo, Noah
Deep Bench - Korver, Turner

Offline jambr380

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13756
  • Tommy Points: 2061
  • Sometimes there's no sane reason for optimism
Yeah, I know we would all be super-psyched with a Cousins trade, but if it doesn't happen, then Love may make a lot of sense. I think we've forgotten about what we really need: a big man who can shoot threes and rebound. I am not Love's biggest fan, but he would fit in extremely well with our roster. Wouldn't it be amazing to have him in this playoff series?

Offline LooseCannon

  • NCE
  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11833
  • Tommy Points: 950
As a starting point in negotiations, Divac should ask the Celtics for Smart, Olynyk, Crowder, Nets 2016, Net/Celtics 2017 pick swap, Nets 2018, and maybe a bit more.

Think about this: if Ainge were the Sacramento GM, what would he be asking for?
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

Offline Jon

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6500
  • Tommy Points: 385
As a starting point in negotiations, Divac should ask the Celtics for Smart, Olynyk, Crowder, Nets 2016, Net/Celtics 2017 pick swap, Nets 2018, and maybe a bit more.

Think about this: if Ainge were the Sacramento GM, what would he be asking for?

Maybe. But let's also remember that Cousins not only has a huge reputation as a locker room cancer, he's also been a loser all his career.

I think some people equate this with Kevin Garnett. But despite KG's alleged underachievement with the Wolves, he has still taken them to a Conference Final and was routinely in the playoffs.

There's a quite distinct possibility that Cousins ends up another Derrick Coleman. So I'd give up a lot, but there is reason to believe Divac can't demand the world for him.


Offline TheSundanceKid

  • Bailey Howell
  • **
  • Posts: 2493
  • Tommy Points: 199
As a starting point in negotiations, Divac should ask the Celtics for Smart, Olynyk, Crowder, Nets 2016, Net/Celtics 2017 pick swap, Nets 2018, and maybe a bit more.

Think about this: if Ainge were the Sacramento GM, what would he be asking for?

Maybe. But let's also remember that Cousins not only has a huge reputation as a locker room cancer, he's also been a loser all his career.

I think some people equate this with Kevin Garnett. But despite KG's alleged underachievement with the Wolves, he has still taken them to a Conference Final and was routinely in the playoffs.

There's a quite distinct possibility that Cousins ends up another Derrick Coleman. So I'd give up a lot, but there is reason to believe Divac can't demand the world for him.
It's not the same. KG at least had some opportunity with his team. Sacramento has been a sinking boat since he was drafted. And he's the only reason they aren't at Brooklyns level at the moment. It's hard to pin too much of their failure on him

Offline LooseCannon

  • NCE
  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11833
  • Tommy Points: 950
As a starting point in negotiations, Divac should ask the Celtics for Smart, Olynyk, Crowder, Nets 2016, Net/Celtics 2017 pick swap, Nets 2018, and maybe a bit more.

Think about this: if Ainge were the Sacramento GM, what would he be asking for?

Maybe. But let's also remember that Cousins not only has a huge reputation as a locker room cancer, he's also been a loser all his career.

I think some people equate this with Kevin Garnett. But despite KG's alleged underachievement with the Wolves, he has still taken them to a Conference Final and was routinely in the playoffs.

There's a quite distinct possibility that Cousins ends up another Derrick Coleman. So I'd give up a lot, but there is reason to believe Divac can't demand the world for him.

You do realize how negotiations work, right?  Sacramento should start out by asking for more than the minimum that they are willing to accept, especially from a team with a lot of assets.  Take the most generous offer that a poster in this thread is willing to trade for Cousins.  Divac should start out by asking for at least two first-round picks (or equivalent value) more than that offer.
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

Online Roy H.

  • Forums Manager
  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 62979
  • Tommy Points: -25466
  • Bo Knows: Joe Don't Know Diddley
As a starting point in negotiations, Divac should ask the Celtics for Smart, Olynyk, Crowder, Nets 2016, Net/Celtics 2017 pick swap, Nets 2018, and maybe a bit more.

Think about this: if Ainge were the Sacramento GM, what would he be asking for?

Maybe. But let's also remember that Cousins not only has a huge reputation as a locker room cancer, he's also been a loser all his career.

I think some people equate this with Kevin Garnett. But despite KG's alleged underachievement with the Wolves, he has still taken them to a Conference Final and was routinely in the playoffs.

There's a quite distinct possibility that Cousins ends up another Derrick Coleman. So I'd give up a lot, but there is reason to believe Divac can't demand the world for him.

You do realize how negotiations work, right?  Sacramento should start out by asking for more than the minimum that they are willing to accept, especially from a team with a lot of assets.  Take the most generous offer that a poster in this thread is willing to trade for Cousins.  Divac should start out by asking for at least two first-round picks (or equivalent value) more than that offer.

This isn't often a wise negotiating strategy, in my opinion.  If one side asks for the moon in negotiations, it can lead to poisoning the talks from the beginning, as the other side feels like it's time is being wasted. This style can result in a lowball counter-offer, or worse, no continued discussions at all.


I'M THE SILVERBACK GORILLA IN THIS MOTHER... AND DON'T NONE OF YA'LL EVER FORGET IT!

KP / Giannis / Turkuglu / Jrue / Curry
Sabonis / Brand / A. Thompson / Oladipo / Brunson
Jordan / Bowen

Redshirt:  Cooper Flagg