Best 2016 draft options for Celtics (in the top 10)

[Tr1boy]

If there is one guy im really looking forward to us picking with the DAL pick its Timothe Luwawu. Guy has elite length, great hands, shoots it well, but most of all is super active and plays like he wants it. I would love to see this guy in a small ball lineup with Jae, and Marcus. He exudes the same type of effort.

Offensively similar to Young but seems to go to both hands with ease and have that aggressive finish at the rim mentality. I know its just a highlight video but it is the first in my research that has really gotten me excited. Its 11 minutes but do yourself a favor if youre looking for some excitement.



http://www.draftexpress.com/video/12077/

yup. either will turn out to be Batum  (George is a huge leap comparison)  or  Iman Shumpert

If we don't get the top 2 pick, I would be ecstatic with a Ellenson and Luwawu pickup

Both are top level prospects and fill in some needs the team has today

[greenrunsdeep41]

If there is one guy im really looking forward to us picking with the DAL pick its Timothe Luwawu. Guy has elite length, great hands, shoots it well, but most of all is super active and plays like he wants it. I would love to see this guy in a small ball lineup with Jae, and Marcus. He exudes the same type of effort.

Offensively similar to Young but seems to go to both hands with ease and have that aggressive finish at the rim mentality. I know its just a highlight video but it is the first in my research that has really gotten me excited. Its 11 minutes but do yourself a favor if youre looking for some excitement.



http://www.draftexpress.com/video/12077/

yup. either will turn out to be Batum  (George is a huge leap comparison)  or  Iman Shumpert

If we don't get the top 2 pick, I would be ecstatic with a Ellenson and Luwawu pickup

Both are top level prospects and fill in some needs the team has today

Thats funny. I was doing my Luwawu and Ellenson study today and I came away really not that impressed by him. He has a really nice stroke from 18-20 feet and seems fluid. But he does not seem to be able to create any separation. I really worry about his game as a lottery pick. If he falls into the 20's (really broad range on all the mocks anywhere from 7-25) then I think he would be a great pick if someone like Jeanne is gone or doesnt come over. He seems to be a consistent player but Im not sure he will ever be better or as good as Sully. And im really not a huge Sullinger fan.

Can share some insight/videos that may give me a bit more?

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Jaylen Brown.

A kid with an NBA ready body and athleticism is hard to pass. He's got some flaws that could be worked, but he could contribute right away, especially on defense with his size, length and quickness. He can also run the floor very well, with great pace and is just not afraid to slash.

I think I'd take him over Brandon Ingram to be honest.

[greenrunsdeep41]

Anyone interested in starting a thread that we examine and focus on one prospect per week? A group of people doing as much in depth analysis as possible on each possible candidate for our pick?

[Csfan1984]

Anyone interested in starting a thread that we examine and focus on one prospect per week? A group of people doing as much in depth analysis as possible on each possible candidate for our pick?

That would be interesting if it was just pure observations and opinions in scouting report style. Instead of critiques on each post creating arguments that stretch 4 pages. Maybe even individual threads like

CB Amateur Scouting, Prospect x

Then we all post our reports for everyone to read. Simply TP you agree. No debating just individual reports on the guy.

Post a thread to request additional outline ideas but that would be my suggestion. Got more ideas too

[greenrunsdeep41]

Anyone interested in starting a thread that we examine and focus on one prospect per week? A group of people doing as much in depth analysis as possible on each possible candidate for our pick?

That would be interesting if it was just pure observations and opinions in scouting report style. Instead of critiques on each post creating arguments that stretch 4 pages. Maybe even individual threads like

CB Amateur Scouting, Prospect x

Then we all post our reports for everyone to read. Simply TP you agree. No debating just individual reports on the guy.

Post a thread to request additional outline ideas but that would be my suggestion. Got more ideas too

Ill start a thread to work out a template.

[Tr1boy]

If there is one guy im really looking forward to us picking with the DAL pick its Timothe Luwawu. Guy has elite length, great hands, shoots it well, but most of all is super active and plays like he wants it. I would love to see this guy in a small ball lineup with Jae, and Marcus. He exudes the same type of effort.

Offensively similar to Young but seems to go to both hands with ease and have that aggressive finish at the rim mentality. I know its just a highlight video but it is the first in my research that has really gotten me excited. Its 11 minutes but do yourself a favor if youre looking for some excitement.



http://www.draftexpress.com/video/12077/

yup. either will turn out to be Batum  (George is a huge leap comparison)  or  Iman Shumpert

If we don't get the top 2 pick, I would be ecstatic with a Ellenson and Luwawu pickup

Both are top level prospects and fill in some needs the team has today

Thats funny. I was doing my Luwawu and Ellenson study today and I came away really not that impressed by him. He has a really nice stroke from 18-20 feet and seems fluid. But he does not seem to be able to create any separation. I really worry about his game as a lottery pick. If he falls into the 20's (really broad range on all the mocks anywhere from 7-25) then I think he would be a great pick if someone like Jeanne is gone or doesnt come over. He seems to be a consistent player but Im not sure he will ever be better or as good as Sully. And im really not a huge Sullinger fan.

Can share some insight/videos that may give me a bit more?

who ellenson??  you will need to catch a few more games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngdYmv85rQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLAR1WcVhno

[A Future of Stevens]

Really love this idea. Would we just go down the projected pick for each of our picks (aka nets grouping, then mavs grouping, etc) or would we go bananas and pick and choose?

[clevelandceltic]

I think to really gauge any prospect, especially freshmen, you have to find some tape of him in HS first. Itsso hard to gauge  what a player can be based on one year. i always think about Bradley Beal and how he looked his year in college. If the eval was totally on his year in college he wouldnt have gone thrid but there was so much tape on the guy already.

So in some of these guys cases, what did Ingram look like as a junior and senior in HS then how did his game progress from the start of the year til now. I think this kinda info is good to know when explaining how a prospect might project.


Just a thought

[PhoSita]

If the Celts end up using that top pick instead of trading it, I've got a feeling whoever they take will be playing about 10-15 minutes a game for at least the first half of next season.

and if they are not good enough to earn more, that's they way it should be.

This is an age-old debate, but there's a line somewhere between "good enough to earn time" and "needs time in order to develop."

There's also a difference to "needs time in order to develop" and "already good enough to earn time and needs time in order to develop". If a player isn't good enough to earn the time, they shouldn't be developed on the floor, even if 97% of Celticsblog wants to see the young player play to decide for themselves if that player is actually developing.

Maybe ... but unfortunately there isn't a proper minor league, so there is a distinct category of players who are too good to get anything out of playing in the D-League, but not good enough to earn time on a team that employs experienced role players and prioritizes winning in the present over developing young players.

I guess I don't agree with your implicit premise that players in the category I mention can actually "develop" in meaningful ways without getting significant playing time at the NBA level.

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Wrong thread

[KG Living Legend]

Jaylen Brown.

A kid with an NBA ready body and athleticism is hard to pass. He's got some flaws that could be worked, but he could contribute right away, especially on defense with his size, length and quickness. He can also run the floor very well, with great pace and is just not afraid to slash.

I think I'd take him over Brandon Ingram to be honest.

 Yoki, your killing me with that comment. I gave you a Tp just for being bold, and I love Brown, but just on Upside alone you really have to take Ingram, what is it about Ingram that you don't love?  Beanpole Skinny?
 I see a go to scorer in the making, fouth quarter Paul Pierce style give it to him and get out of his way.

[celticmania]

Jaylen Brown.

A kid with an NBA ready body and athleticism is hard to pass. He's got some flaws that could be worked, but he could contribute right away, especially on defense with his size, length and quickness. He can also run the floor very well, with great pace and is just not afraid to slash.

I think I'd take him over Brandon Ingram to be honest.

 Yoki, your killing me with that comment. I gave you a Tp just for being bold, and I love Brown, but just on Upside alone you really have to take Ingram, what is it about Ingram that you don't love?  Beanpole Skinny?
 I see a go to scorer in the making, fouth quarter Paul Pierce style give it to him and get out of his way.

Ingram is very slow for a wing.

[Atzar]

I've watched Ingram quite a bit over the last couple of weeks.  He's a good prospect and probably deserving of the #2 pick in the draft, but there are some things I don't like about him.

He has all of the offensive tools.  All of them.  Can shoot, can drive with either hand, can post, can find the open man when doubled.  That's why he'll be drafted high.  And when his shot is falling, he crashes the glass and tries hard enough on defense to at least be serviceable on that end of the court.  Truly has superstar potential.

On the other hand, he doesn't have the tools to be an impact player on defense - has length but lacks lateral quickness and instincts.  And if he misses or doesn't get the ball when he's open on offense, his effort goes out the window.  Becomes a turnstile on defense, stops rebounding, doesn't run in transition.  These are things that his eventual NBA team will have to address if he's going to get anywhere close to his potential.