Author Topic: Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)  (Read 705677 times)

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Offline slamtheking

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The situation in Phoenix bears watching. With the coaching upheaval and the injury to Bledsoe, I think they could go on a losing streak that bumps Brooklyn from the 3rd to 4th.

Been saying that for a while. There is no guarantee that the Brooklyn pick will be in the TOP 3, or even in TOP 5. The situation in Phoenix is not good with Bledsoe out. They don't have a deep squad and the quality to make the playoffs, so they could easily go in a fire sale mode (if they didn't sign Ty Chandler for that long, or if he's younger, I would be on board to bring him to Boston).
The same could happen with Portland, Minny, Sactown, Utah, Milwaukee, Denver and New Orleans. There is still about fifty games to play until the end of the season and so much uncertainty. The Nets are not a bad team as Lakers and Sixers, and other mentioned teams are not that much better, just got some luck at this point in the season.
If I was Danny, I would consider trading the pick before trade deadline for a young, proven go to scorer (big or a SF).
   

Why do people keep assuming that the Nets will get better while other teams will get worse? A healthy Nets squad is good enough for the 3rd worst team in the NBA.

Well I don't know why people think that they are a lock to be a top 3 or top 5 worst team in the league.
As I stated before I think they are already better then lakers and sixers. The Phoenix are not getting in the playoffs thats for sure. They could easily trade Chandler, Morris, Tucker, Teletovic or others, and there goes your core. Thats 3 very bad teams who are worse then the nets with fifty games to play.
The same situation can happen in denver and utah. Utah is playing ok considering all circuimstances (injury to Exum, Gobbert and Burks). They have a thin squad and could easily go in other direction if things don't go in their direction.
Denver will trade their veterans and will go in tank mode that is for sure. They are not good right now and they will bot get better, at least not this season.
The main reason why I think Nets might surprise is thet they do not have incentive to suck. Ok they are not contenders but I think they will do everything to escape that bottom 3 unlike lal, phi and other teams who could change their tactics.
I'm not saying we should give up that pick for a middle class player but for a big dog.
that would be called panicking.  avoid that.  you're talking as though a very bad team like the Nets will improve.  They're already playing at their peak.  They have nowhere to go but down either through injuries (RHJ just down, Lopez is just a matter of time) or trading off what veteran assets they do have.

is it possible someone else who already has several more wins than Brooklyn go into an even bigger freefall?  sure, but it's really unlikely.  don't forget, those team you mentioned may make moves that make them worse but for the Nets to catch them, the Nets have to win games.  Also, the East is the better conference this year so it's more than likely that with the Nets in the East, they're more likely to lose than those teams in the West where the competition is much weaker this year.

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The next 15 Nets games:

Mon, Dec 28 @ Miami    
Wed, Dec 30 @ Orland
Sat, Jan 2    @ Bosto
Mon, Jan 4 vs Boston
Wed, Jan 6 vs Toronto
Fri, Jan 8vs Orlando
Sat, Jan 9    @ Detroit
Mon, Jan 11 vs San Antonio
Wed, Jan 13 vs NY Knicks
Fri, Jan 15 vs Portland
Sat, Jan 16 @ Atlanta
Mon, Jan 18 @ Toronto
Wed, Jan 20 vs Cleveland
Fri, Jan 22 vs Utah
Sun, Jan 24 vs Oklahoma City

This is a pretty hard scheduel. I doubt they will win more then 5. Actually I think they will win 3 or 4. That will put them at something like 12-33. After the All-Star break they play a ton of games on the road, where they are 2-12 right now. When teams like Denver start to really tank (after the deadline) it might just be too late to catch Brooklyn.

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The next 15 Nets games:

Mon, Dec 28 @ Miami    
Wed, Dec 30 @ Orland
Sat, Jan 2    @ Bosto
Mon, Jan 4 vs Boston
Wed, Jan 6 vs Toronto
Fri, Jan 8vs Orlando
Sat, Jan 9    @ Detroit
Mon, Jan 11 vs San Antonio
Wed, Jan 13 vs NY Knicks
Fri, Jan 15 vs Portland
Sat, Jan 16 @ Atlanta
Mon, Jan 18 @ Toronto
Wed, Jan 20 vs Cleveland
Fri, Jan 22 vs Utah
Sun, Jan 24 vs Oklahoma City

This is a pretty hard scheduel. I doubt they will win more then 5. Actually I think they will win 3 or 4. That will put them at something like 12-33. After the All-Star break they play a ton of games on the road, where they are 2-12 right now. When teams like Denver start to really tank (after the deadline) it might just be too late to catch Brooklyn.

I think 5 wins would have Nets fans celebrating in the streets. They won't be favored in any of those games and I honestly don't think they can win any. They probably will squeak out a win or two, but no more than that. Portland is sneaky good.

I'll say they go 2-13

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The next 15 Nets games:

Mon, Dec 28 @ Miami    
Wed, Dec 30 @ Orland
Sat, Jan 2    @ Bosto
Mon, Jan 4 vs Boston
Wed, Jan 6 vs Toronto
Fri, Jan 8vs Orlando
Sat, Jan 9    @ Detroit
Mon, Jan 11 vs San Antonio
Wed, Jan 13 vs NY Knicks
Fri, Jan 15 vs Portland
Sat, Jan 16 @ Atlanta
Mon, Jan 18 @ Toronto
Wed, Jan 20 vs Cleveland
Fri, Jan 22 vs Utah
Sun, Jan 24 vs Oklahoma City

This is a pretty hard scheduel. I doubt they will win more then 5. Actually I think they will win 3 or 4. That will put them at something like 12-33. After the All-Star break they play a ton of games on the road, where they are 2-12 right now. When teams like Denver start to really tank (after the deadline) it might just be too late to catch Brooklyn.
tp for the info.

plus, as another poster already posted in a post posted above this post, for other teams to "pass" the nets, the nets actually have to WIN games.

so far, they dont seem particularly good at this. and, the nets have had the easier part of their schedule and been healthy.

a top three for them is never a lock, but i like the odds of it happening.
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The situation in Phoenix bears watching. With the coaching upheaval and the injury to Bledsoe, I think they could go on a losing streak that bumps Brooklyn from the 3rd to 4th.

Been saying that for a while. There is no guarantee that the Brooklyn pick will be in the TOP 3, or even in TOP 5. The situation in Phoenix is not good with Bledsoe out. They don't have a deep squad and the quality to make the playoffs, so they could easily go in a fire sale mode (if they didn't sign Ty Chandler for that long, or if he's younger, I would be on board to bring him to Boston).
The same could happen with Portland, Minny, Sactown, Utah, Milwaukee, Denver and New Orleans. There is still about fifty games to play until the end of the season and so much uncertainty. The Nets are not a bad team as Lakers and Sixers, and other mentioned teams are not that much better, just got some luck at this point in the season.
If I was Danny, I would consider trading the pick before trade deadline for a young, proven go to scorer (big or a SF).
   

Why do people keep assuming that the Nets will get better while other teams will get worse? A healthy Nets squad is good enough for the 3rd worst team in the NBA.

Well I don't know why people think that they are a lock to be a top 3 or top 5 worst team in the league.
As I stated before I think they are already better then lakers and sixers. The Phoenix are not getting in the playoffs thats for sure. They could easily trade Chandler, Morris, Tucker, Teletovic or others, and there goes your core. Thats 3 very bad teams who are worse then the nets with fifty games to play.
The same situation can happen in denver and utah. Utah is playing ok considering all circuimstances (injury to Exum, Gobbert and Burks). They have a thin squad and could easily go in other direction if things don't go in their direction.
Denver will trade their veterans and will go in tank mode that is for sure. They are not good right now and they will bot get better, at least not this season.
The main reason why I think Nets might surprise is thet they do not have incentive to suck. Ok they are not contenders but I think they will do everything to escape that bottom 3 unlike lal, phi and other teams who could change their tactics.
I'm not saying we should give up that pick for a middle class player but for a big dog.
that would be called panicking.  avoid that.  you're talking as though a very bad team like the Nets will improve.  They're already playing at their peak.  They have nowhere to go but down either through injuries (RHJ just down, Lopez is just a matter of time) or trading off what veteran assets they do have.

is it possible someone else who already has several more wins than Brooklyn go into an even bigger freefall?  sure, but it's really unlikely.  don't forget, those team you mentioned may make moves that make them worse but for the Nets to catch them, the Nets have to win games.  Also, the East is the better conference this year so it's more than likely that with the Nets in the East, they're more likely to lose than those teams in the West where the competition is much weaker this year.

I don't think that's panicking because i'm suggesting something that could actually happen. For example look at it as we were in their place (God forbid), would we let down the ship and tank hard only to get them a better pick? No we would not and you could see that in this years second game when they beat us (after the whole garden chanted "thank you" and all that stuff). I've watched some of their games and they are playing hard. They are losing games by small margins not by 20 like lal or phi (soon phx).
All i'm saying if we could get a reasonable offer for our pick,we should carefully consider it. If you can get an young all star caliber player, you consider that option.
I'm not against keeping the pick but that is obviously a more uncertain option to have. This way we could turn him into proven franchise player who could help us win some games now. Plus, Danny had some success with drafting players but it was not great...     

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The situation in Phoenix bears watching. With the coaching upheaval and the injury to Bledsoe, I think they could go on a losing streak that bumps Brooklyn from the 3rd to 4th.

Been saying that for a while. There is no guarantee that the Brooklyn pick will be in the TOP 3, or even in TOP 5. The situation in Phoenix is not good with Bledsoe out. They don't have a deep squad and the quality to make the playoffs, so they could easily go in a fire sale mode (if they didn't sign Ty Chandler for that long, or if he's younger, I would be on board to bring him to Boston).
The same could happen with Portland, Minny, Sactown, Utah, Milwaukee, Denver and New Orleans. There is still about fifty games to play until the end of the season and so much uncertainty. The Nets are not a bad team as Lakers and Sixers, and other mentioned teams are not that much better, just got some luck at this point in the season.
If I was Danny, I would consider trading the pick before trade deadline for a young, proven go to scorer (big or a SF).
   

Why do people keep assuming that the Nets will get better while other teams will get worse? A healthy Nets squad is good enough for the 3rd worst team in the NBA.

Well I don't know why people think that they are a lock to be a top 3 or top 5 worst team in the league.
As I stated before I think they are already better then lakers and sixers. The Phoenix are not getting in the playoffs thats for sure. They could easily trade Chandler, Morris, Tucker, Teletovic or others, and there goes your core. Thats 3 very bad teams who are worse then the nets with fifty games to play.
The same situation can happen in denver and utah. Utah is playing ok considering all circuimstances (injury to Exum, Gobbert and Burks). They have a thin squad and could easily go in other direction if things don't go in their direction.
Denver will trade their veterans and will go in tank mode that is for sure. They are not good right now and they will bot get better, at least not this season.
The main reason why I think Nets might surprise is thet they do not have incentive to suck. Ok they are not contenders but I think they will do everything to escape that bottom 3 unlike lal, phi and other teams who could change their tactics.
I'm not saying we should give up that pick for a middle class player but for a big dog.
that would be called panicking.  avoid that.  you're talking as though a very bad team like the Nets will improve.  They're already playing at their peak.  They have nowhere to go but down either through injuries (RHJ just down, Lopez is just a matter of time) or trading off what veteran assets they do have.

is it possible someone else who already has several more wins than Brooklyn go into an even bigger freefall?  sure, but it's really unlikely.  don't forget, those team you mentioned may make moves that make them worse but for the Nets to catch them, the Nets have to win games.  Also, the East is the better conference this year so it's more than likely that with the Nets in the East, they're more likely to lose than those teams in the West where the competition is much weaker this year.

I don't think that's panicking because i'm suggesting something that could actually happen. For example look at it as we were in their place (God forbid), would we let down the ship and tank hard only to get them a better pick? No we would not and you could see that in this years second game when they beat us (after the whole garden chanted "thank you" and all that stuff). I've watched some of their games and they are playing hard. They are losing games by small margins not by 20 like lal or phi (soon phx).
All i'm saying if we could get a reasonable offer for our pick,we should carefully consider it. If you can get an young all star caliber player, you consider that option.
I'm not against keeping the pick but that is obviously a more uncertain option to have. This way we could turn him into proven franchise player who could help us win some games now. Plus, Danny had some success with drafting players but it was not great...   
In terms of point differential they are the 3rd worst team in the NBA and the difference between them and Phoenix is just as big as the gap between them and LA in the other direction.

I dont see Utah tanking as they have a strong core in Gobert, Favors, Hayward. They also just picked Lyles and have Exum coming back next year.

Phoenix could feasibly blow it up, but they have a lot more talent than Brooklyn, will face an easier remaining schedule, and are already 3 games up on Brooklyn.

As for other teams, you have Portland, Minnesota, Milwakee, Denver, and New Orleans

New Orleans, on the virtue of Anthony Davis alone, surely will not outsuck the Nets.
Minnesota doesnt look like a tanker to me
Denver is a possibility
Portland is a possibility but I dont see them making any tanking moves.
Milwakee wont tank. Their core is completely based on young talent. If they make a tanking move big enough to drop them to nets level then it would mean trading a young player in their nucleus. Which is kinda the opposite of the point of tanking.

So I could see Phoenix, Denver and Portland making a run at the 3 spot, but ultimately I expect brooklyn to win the spot.

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Well that point diff between Suns and Nets is out the window now that Bledsoe is out.
As of now there is only 4 wins between third worst team in the league and the eight seed in the west. If the west was strong like in the past years, it would be different...
Like I said before, I don't see Suns and Nuggets making trades to be better now but trades for the future. Utah and Milwaukee have young and potent teams but for some reasons maybe this is not their season (Utah because of bad luck-for now, and Bucks because of Kidds incompetence). There could be a chance for them to tank but I agree with previous poster they probably will not thank.
Sacramento has good players but that team is a time bomb...
Minny has a young squad and they will try to win games. Unfortunatly they are not very capable of doing that.
Portland could easily shut down Lillard and tank.
Davis is not carrying that team by himself into the playoffs and we could see that in first 20 games. If they trade Anderson, Gordon or someone else of the core guys they are turning that ship into the tank direction no doubt and the line is very very thin with those guys (btw they are playing like crap).
And what about our beloved Knicks if they decide to trade Melo? They are not winning any games without him.
It's a long season guys...

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Well that point diff between Suns and Nets is out the window now that Bledsoe is out.
As of now there is only 4 wins between third worst team in the league and the eight seed in the west. If the west was strong like in the past years, it would be different...
Like I said before, I don't see Suns and Nuggets making trades to be better now but trades for the future. Utah and Milwaukee have young and potent teams but for some reasons maybe this is not their season (Utah because of bad luck-for now, and Bucks because of Kidds incompetence). There could be a chance for them to tank but I agree with previous poster they probably will not thank.
Sacramento has good players but that team is a time bomb...
Minny has a young squad and they will try to win games. Unfortunatly they are not very capable of doing that.
Portland could easily shut down Lillard and tank.
Davis is not carrying that team by himself into the playoffs and we could see that in first 20 games. If they trade Anderson, Gordon or someone else of the core guys they are turning that ship into the tank direction no doubt and the line is very very thin with those guys (btw they are playing like crap).
And what about our beloved Knicks if they decide to trade Melo? They are not winning any games without him.
It's a long season guys...

Give me a legitimate reason why the Nets will eventually be better than the other teams besides the "lack of incentive to tank".

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Oh hhhhh my this difficult to,say .....

GO HEAT  :-X

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Well that point diff between Suns and Nets is out the window now that Bledsoe is out.
As of now there is only 4 wins between third worst team in the league and the eight seed in the west. If the west was strong like in the past years, it would be different...
Like I said before, I don't see Suns and Nuggets making trades to be better now but trades for the future. Utah and Milwaukee have young and potent teams but for some reasons maybe this is not their season (Utah because of bad luck-for now, and Bucks because of Kidds incompetence). There could be a chance for them to tank but I agree with previous poster they probably will not thank.
Sacramento has good players but that team is a time bomb...
Minny has a young squad and they will try to win games. Unfortunatly they are not very capable of doing that.
Portland could easily shut down Lillard and tank.
Davis is not carrying that team by himself into the playoffs and we could see that in first 20 games. If they trade Anderson, Gordon or someone else of the core guys they are turning that ship into the tank direction no doubt and the line is very very thin with those guys (btw they are playing like crap).
And what about our beloved Knicks if they decide to trade Melo? They are not winning any games without him.
It's a long season guys...

The Knicks don't own their pick, so I'm not sure how much tanking would help them.
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Heard Whiteside was sick and might not play .

Nets could possibly win with Whiteside out ......ugh

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Heard Whiteside was sick and might not play .

Nets could possibly win with Whiteside out ......ugh

I would be more worried if Chris Bosh or Dwyane Wade didn't play.

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Heard Whiteside was sick and might not play .

Nets could possibly win with Whiteside out ......ugh

Nobody on that team can guard Wade or Dragic.  Miami are 8.5 favorites right now.  Not worried.

What's crazy though is that ESPN is saying that the cheapest tickets on StubHub! for this game are going for $80 right now.  Kings v Warriors tonight are going for $166, but still....

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Heard Whiteside was sick and might not play .

Nets could possibly win with Whiteside out ......ugh

The Heat are statiscally better without Whiteside.
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Hope the stinking Heat will win this game but I would not put my money on that. If I recall right the last game between these two teams ended in Heats victory by few points and had some amazing comback from the Heat. Hope it goes smoother this time.

About the Knicks. I know they don't own their pick this year but if they decide that Melo project was a failure they could easily try to trade him for a bag of picks/young players, right? Seems to me like reasonable option. They are not contenders, they are not attracting any major new free agents (as seen in the offseason).