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Offline MJohnnyboy

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Another SRS projection in case anyone is interested. It loves the Celtics and it puts high stock in that Nets pick. I wonder how much they factored in potential injuries and trades which can potentially change the entire landscape. Nonetheless, it's good to see that the advanced stats seem to be in favor of the C's.

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Offline jmen788

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

Offline CroCorvus

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I'm affraid that the Nets will force their way to 20-25 wins, which will be enough for fourth or fifth worst record. Now that is a great thing to have - a luxury of a top 5 pick in a draft and possibly be in a playoffs? but i think that Danny will trade that pick. He will take his time, he's long enough in the league to start panicking. He will take his time and pick his option to the pick and i think he is right. I think we have passed the first or two rebuilding phases, he has the right players, has the right system and a coach who's ready to produce some results. All we need is a go to scorer, possibly an all star player and this team will go nuts. Add to that the rest of the picks and the upcoming salary cup space and we could have a pretty good team, a contender, by this time of the next year. Go Celts!!!

Offline Eddie20

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

Offline jmen788

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Offline libermaniac

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Don't forget there is a lot of parity this year, so 28-30 wins might be 3rd worse.  Right, now Portland owns the 5th worst winning percentage of .355.  That's 29+ win pace.  I also expect New Orleans to turn it on a bit, since they are not that far out of the playoffs in the WEAK WESTERN CONFERENCE (LOVE IT).


Offline Rondo9

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.
The Nets are in the second tier of bad teams behind the top tier of bad teams (Lakers and Sixers). They could still win 20-25 games and be the worst team in their tier which still could leave them third worst team in the league.

Other than Philly and LA I don't see a team that is worse than them even if they are playing better lately. I'm of the mind set that New Orleans will improve and move itself out of the second to worst tier.

 The only teams that could pass Brooklyn in terms of being bad would do so because of injury and if we are talking about injuries Brooklyn is a Thad Young or Brook Lopez injury from joining the Sixers, Lakers tier.
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Offline jmen788

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

It doesn't matter if I "like it or not" (and I don't). I'm just stating how they have been much better since then. No need to be snippy.

Offline jmen788

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.
The Nets are in the second tier of bad teams behind the top tier of bad teams (Lakers and Sixers). They could still win 20-25 games and be the worst team in their tier which still could leave them third worst team in the league.

Other than Philly and LA I don't see a team that is worse than them even if they are playing better lately. I'm of the mind set that New Orleans will improve and move itself out of the second to worst tier.

 The only teams that could pass Brooklyn in terms of being bad would do so because of injury and if we are talking about injuries Brooklyn is a Thad Young or Brook Lopez injury from joining the Sixers, Lakers tier.

I more or less agree. The problem is a team like the Nuggets, Kings, or Wolves (just off the top of my head) could at some point in say February decide to all out tank. I personally think the Wolves are already stealth tanking...

Offline mctyson

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

It doesn't matter if I "like it or not" (and I don't). I'm just stating how they have been much better since then. No need to be snippy.

They have lost 6 of their last 7 games.  So they are 1 win better versus 0.  That is not much better.

Offline jmen788

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

It doesn't matter if I "like it or not" (and I don't). I'm just stating how they have been much better since then. No need to be snippy.

They have lost 6 of their last 7 games.  So they are 1 win better versus 0.  That is not much better.

They are competitive and barely lost to a decent team just the other night. I really *really* hope I'm wrong. I want Ingram on this team badly. We'll see...

Offline mef730

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

It doesn't matter if I "like it or not" (and I don't). I'm just stating how they have been much better since then. No need to be snippy.

They have lost 6 of their last 7 games.  So they are 1 win better versus 0.  That is not much better.

They are competitive and barely lost to a decent team just the other night. I really *really* hope I'm wrong. I want Ingram on this team badly. We'll see...

Unfortunately, even if the Nets finish at #3, we have < 1/3 chance of getting either of the top 2 picks (which currently look like Simmons and Ingram). Just a bit >50% that we get 4,5 or 6.

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Offline Rondo9

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Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

True, but unfortunately they play a lot of garbage teams on the road in that stretch. They are simply overachieving lately, and barring a significant injury, I think they are going to get to 25-30 wins (praying they don't though, of course).

That team looks right on track to finish with the 3rd worst record in the league. They currently own the 3rd worst point differential in the league, which goes hand in hand with their record. And to ease your worried mind, they're currently 2-12 on the road. The "garbage" teams they play on the road are going to be favored (minus the Sixers) in every game.

I'm curious as to how much those stats were impacted by their horrid 0-7 start... since that time they are 8-14, which is by no means good, but it is not bad enough to be a top 3 worst team. And they also nearly stole a few other games too - e.g. against the Mavs, Kings, Warriors, Cavs - had they gone 2-2 in those 4 close games, they'd be 10-19, and 10-12 since their awful start.

Even using the 8-14 figure since the 0-7 start, over 82 games that would be a 29 to 30 win pace. And I think they are capable even at 8-21 to get to 27 or 28 wins.

HOWEVER, if there is a big injury or something, this would be moot. I just think realistically they will have 25-30 wins, and I also don't want to set hopes too high to have them cruelly dashed.

Like it or not the 0-7 start does matter and the Nets lost six in a row before upsetting Chicago.

It doesn't matter if I "like it or not" (and I don't). I'm just stating how they have been much better since then. No need to be snippy.

They have lost 6 of their last 7 games.  So they are 1 win better versus 0.  That is not much better.

They are competitive and barely lost to a decent team just the other night. I really *really* hope I'm wrong. I want Ingram on this team badly. We'll see...
You're assuming that the Nets will start winning while the teams above will start getting worse if I came across as snippy then I apologize but the nets lost 6 of their last 7 games even if they stayed close

Offline Anomandaris

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I haven't read through all the posts in this thead BUT:

I think the one thing everyone is overlooking is that after the AS break, a lot of teams will realise that they are out of the playoff hunt & start "Resting" their key players with minor/major injuries to safe them for the following season.  They won't officialy be tanking but they will rest half their team or trade away quality veteran players to give playing opportunities to their young players. = resulting a whole lot of losses.

The only team that will not follow this strategy are the Nets.  They don't have youngsters to develop, nor do they have a lotto pick that makes it worth resting their star players for.  They will most likely gain a few places in the standings during the last stretch of the season IMO.