Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[chambers]

Based on the Nets performance since their horrible start, and their schedule the rest of the year... I think that they are unfortunately likely get to 28-30 wins... maybe 25 if we get lucky.

Do not forget the Nets have a terrible schedule down the stretch. Starting in mid-Feb they play a whopping 18 out of 24 games on the road, including a 9 game West Coast swing.

I didn't know that. TP. That's reassuring.

[mef730]

Do we know yet why Bogdanovic sat out the rest of the game? Hollins refused to talk about it.

Mike

[Spicoli]

Do we know yet why Bogdanovic sat out the rest of the game? Hollins refused to talk about it.

Mike

I found this strange. The guy was on absolute fire.

[tomrod]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

[hwangjini_1]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

but the rub is that so will many other teams. lots of teams will have lots of money. so i dont see any premier free agents going to brooklyn, given their rickety and poorly built team.

they MIGHT be better with a few mid-range free agents, yes. but one injury to lopez's already damaged foot and this team is in the tank...even more.

this might eventually turn out to be ainge's best trade, or at least up there with the creation of the big three.

[mef730]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

I don't disagree with that second paragraph, but there are going to be a ton of teams with a lot of money throwing it at those players. Brooklyn will have to convince them why they are the best destination.

Mike

[mef730]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

but the rub is that so will many other teams. lots of teams will have lots of money. so i dont see any premier free agents going to brooklyn, given their rickety and poorly built team.

they MIGHT be better with a few mid-range free agents, yes. but one injury to lopez's already damaged foot and this team is in the tank...even more.

this might eventually turn out to be ainge's best trade, or at least up there with the creation of the big three.

TP, you beat me by 34 seconds.

There are going to be A LOT of overpaid mid-range free agents this year. And next.

Mike

[tomrod]

If that eases your mind 

But the market for pg's isn't huge, and theres a lot of them to be had. And if you throw a max at Eric Gordon (for two years) noone will match. They just have nothing to lose this next couple of years...

[tazzmaniac]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

but the rub is that so will many other teams. lots of teams will have lots of money. so i dont see any premier free agents going to brooklyn, given their rickety and poorly built team.

they MIGHT be better with a few mid-range free agents, yes. but one injury to lopez's already damaged foot and this team is in the tank...even more.

this might eventually turn out to be ainge's best trade, or at least up there with the creation of the big three.

TP, you beat me by 34 seconds.

There are going to be A LOT of overpaid mid-range free agents this year. And next.

Mike

Some teams are going to have to re-sign their own free agents to big contracts so I don't think there will be that many teams with lots of cap space.  Of course, that will also mean fewer good free agents will be available too.  It will definitely be a good time to be a mid-tier free agent.   

[mef730]

I think they are not a bad team, could end up better than Portland and Minnesota.
We got lucky with the RHJ injury, he was winning them games.

Also, I think this is the year to get a top 5 pick from them. Next year I see them throwing a lot of money around to the likes of Jennings, Conley, DeRozan, Eric Gordon, and screwing with the Lakers with Clarkson and with us with Sully. They could be a playoff team the next couple of years with a couple of FA's, plus RHJ, Lopez and Young.

but the rub is that so will many other teams. lots of teams will have lots of money. so i dont see any premier free agents going to brooklyn, given their rickety and poorly built team.

they MIGHT be better with a few mid-range free agents, yes. but one injury to lopez's already damaged foot and this team is in the tank...even more.

this might eventually turn out to be ainge's best trade, or at least up there with the creation of the big three.

TP, you beat me by 34 seconds.

There are going to be A LOT of overpaid mid-range free agents this year. And next.

Mike

Some teams are going to have to re-sign their own free agents to big contracts so I don't think there will be that many teams with lots of cap space.  Of course, that will also mean fewer good free agents will be available too.  It will definitely be a good time to be a mid-tier free agent.   

I'm totally okay with that. As long as the free agents don't go to Brooklyn, we're all good. It'll make me feel a lot better on the day that Mike Conley resigns with Memphis for the max.

Mike

[ReadyFor17]

If that eases your mind 

But the market for pg's isn't huge, and theres a lot of them to be had. And if you throw a max at Eric Gordon (for two years) noone will match. They just have nothing to lose this next couple of years...

Nothing to lose except just as many games as this year when they max Eric Gordon.

Cap is projected to jump to $90 mil. Brooklyn's cap space is middle of the pack. Some teams that will have around the same amount or more space include Phoenix, New York, Dallas, Indy, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Boston, LAL, Philly. There are others but those are just the big markets and/or potentially aggressive spenders.

As of now, zero teams project to be above the cap, and only Cleveland is within $10 mil of that $90 mil figure. Basically, every team will have the ability to retain their guys within the cap/under the tax if they're willing to pony up the dough, and with the cap projected to jump again the following summer I'm guessing many teams will be willing.

You also have to remember that sending out offer sheets ties up cap space for a week until the team does or doesn't match. If that's their plan A I imagine they will not like the results.

[mef730]

You also have to remember that sending out offer sheets ties up cap space for a week until the team does or doesn't match. If that's their plan A I imagine they will not like the results.

I did not know that. Thanks for the info! TP.

Mike

[saltlover]

You also have to remember that sending out offer sheets ties up cap space for a week until the team does or doesn't match. If that's their plan A I imagine they will not like the results.

I did not know that. Thanks for the info! TP.

Mike

Its actually 3 days now (was a week in the old CBA).  A little bit tougher for teams to get held up by an outstanding offer sheet.

[saltlover]

If that eases your mind 

But the market for pg's isn't huge, and theres a lot of them to be had. And if you throw a max at Eric Gordon (for two years) noone will match. They just have nothing to lose this next couple of years...

Nothing to lose except just as many games as this year when they max Eric Gordon.

Cap is projected to jump to $90 mil. Brooklyn's cap space is middle of the pack. Some teams that will have around the same amount or more space include Phoenix, New York, Dallas, Indy, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Boston, LAL, Philly. There are others but those are just the big markets and/or potentially aggressive spenders.

As of now, zero teams project to be above the cap, and only Cleveland is within $10 mil of that $90 mil figure. Basically, every team will have the ability to retain their guys within the cap/under the tax if they're willing to pony up the dough, and with the cap projected to jump again the following summer I'm guessing many teams will be willing.

You also have to remember that sending out offer sheets ties up cap space for a week until the team does or doesn't match. If that's their plan A I imagine they will not like the results.

Cleveland is over the cap unless you assume LeBron opts out and leaves.  Clippers are also essentially at or over the projected cap, depending what they do with Lance.  OKC is over the cap until Durant leaves, otherwise his cap hold puts them over, so they can't move on anyone else until he's decided.  Same with the Warriors and Barnes/Ezeli.  Barring retirements, Spurs would be near enough the cap that they'd only have the MLE to spend.

But the overwhelming majority of teams will have lots of money to spend.  Brookyln will have a difficult time convincing anyone of note to come there.

[tazzmaniac]

If that eases your mind 

But the market for pg's isn't huge, and theres a lot of them to be had. And if you throw a max at Eric Gordon (for two years) noone will match. They just have nothing to lose this next couple of years...

Nothing to lose except just as many games as this year when they max Eric Gordon.

Cap is projected to jump to $90 mil. Brooklyn's cap space is middle of the pack. Some teams that will have around the same amount or more space include Phoenix, New York, Dallas, Indy, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, Washington, Boston, LAL, Philly. There are others but those are just the big markets and/or potentially aggressive spenders.

As of now, zero teams project to be above the cap, and only Cleveland is within $10 mil of that $90 mil figure. Basically, every team will have the ability to retain their guys within the cap/under the tax if they're willing to pony up the dough, and with the cap projected to jump again the following summer I'm guessing many teams will be willing.

You also have to remember that sending out offer sheets ties up cap space for a week until the team does or doesn't match. If that's their plan A I imagine they will not like the results.

Cleveland is over the cap unless you assume LeBron opts out and leaves.  Clippers are also essentially at or over the projected cap, depending what they do with Lance.  OKC is over the cap until Durant leaves, otherwise his cap hold puts them over, so they can't move on anyone else until he's decided.  Same with the Warriors and Barnes/Ezeli.  Barring retirements, Spurs would be near enough the cap that they'd only have the MLE to spend.

But the overwhelming majority of teams will have lots of money to spend.  Brookyln will have a difficult time convincing anyone of note to come there.

Houston will be near cap assuming they retain Howard.  Chicago will be near cap assuming they retain Gasol.  Miami is at 48mil for only 6 players so they may not even be able to retain all three of their big free agents: Wade, Deng and Whiteside.   Sacramento will be near cap if they retain Rondo.   Toronto will be near cap to retain DeRozan.  NO is at 64 mil but that's without Anderson and Gordon.