Official 2015-16 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (21-59, 3rd slot as of 4/12)

[chambers]

Does anyone else wish Hubie Brown was sent off to the glue factory? The guy is just painful. He just doesn't stop talking and when he talks it's like he's directing it towards a 6 year old.
ugghhhh

[tazzmaniac]

  A healthy Nets team misses the playoff and provides a pretty good pick/lottery chances.  A team that suffers any sort of injury, as most every team does every year, is easily bottom 5.

I disagree with "any sort of injury."  I think an injury to Brook Lopez that causes him to miss a month or more, or a longer term injury to Jack or Thad Young, would be enough to set them on an extended run of losing.

Their point differential, even with their terrible start to the season (with a very difficult schedule), is only at -6.  That's bad, don't get me wrong, but a handful of other teams are around that mark or well below it, suggesting the Nets aren't a clear cut horrible team the way they appeared to be at the beginning of the season, when we were all (me included) dreaming of the Nets having a repeat of their 2009 season.

My feeling all along has been that the Nets will finish in the high 20s or low 30s unless Brook Lopez misses extended time.  A plausible but optimistic outlook would have them finishing around the same place the Celts finished two years ago, which was good for the #6 pick.  Not bad at all, but in this draft, probably not gonna yield a future All-Star.

The Nets are not a good team, but I don't think losing Deron Williams, Mirza Teletovic, and Mason Plumlee in exchange for Andrea Bargnani and RHJ is enough to turn them from a playoff team to a team that will compete with Philadelphia and LA for a top pick.

I'm not sure why that opinion gets treated like I'm denying climate change or the Big Bang Theory around here, but so be it.

It is because there are a bunch of people banking on the Nets picks being really good for our rebuild to be successful.  Without that happening, our future looks paved with mediocrity.   

[Quetzalcoatl]

There's 4:00 left in the second and the Nets just got to 30 points.  This is crazy

[chambers]

The Nets are officially the worst 3 point shooting team in the league. Percentage wise, makes and attempts.

29%

[Quetzalcoatl]

It is because there are a bunch of people banking on the Nets picks being really good for our rebuild to be successful.  Without that happening, our future looks paved with mediocrity.

Massive cap flexibility, Coach Stevens and 2 more Nets picks after this one.  Not to mention that we can package our pick, the Dallas pick and maybe even the Minnesota picks together to move up for a second lotto pick.  I am not that worried if we end up drafting Brown, Poeltl or Bender.

[mef730]

BKN getting Porzinger'd in NY thus far. 20 point lead after the 1st qtr.

Good.

I'd be watching it, "gleefully," but it's not available in League Pass.  I haven't watched enough of the Zinger.

I'm watching it on ESPN. Are you not able to get it?

Mike

[mef730]

Does this mean you are rooting for the Knicks to lose tonight so you can gleefully come on here and trot out the argument that their top 5 is solid?

Anybody who disagrees with you consistently must be doing so in a spiteful, gleeful manner with no regard for facts or context.  Yup.

I've repeated many times, I'd love for the Nets to go on a 50 game losing streak and hand us a top 5 pick, I just don't think it's likely to happen.  Nor do I think they're making the playoffs.

Their top 5 is solid.  I'm not just blindly repeating a statement with no basis.  Their main lineup is one of the best in the league by point differential.

There are persuasive arguments for why they might end up with a bottom record, but those arguments inevitably hinge on the belief that one or more of their main guys (specifically Lopez) will get injured for an extended period of time.  Certainly plausible, but by no means assured.


I wish it weren't the case.  I want to be all-in on getting excited about drafting Ben Simmons or Dragan Bender or whoever.  It would relieve many of my concerns about the rebuild.

Thank you. Everyone on here is a Celtics fan (I think.). We all want the same outcome. Getting upset over a disagreement about whether the Nets are a top-5 lock or not is silly. I'd love to believe that it's a lock. I don't think it is. And you know what? If they don't win another game for the rest of the season, I'll be the first person to get on here and say, boy, I was wrong.

But here's the deal: If the Nets do pull off a bottom-3 finish, first round of drinks at the lottery party is on me as punishment for my lack of faith. And I will very, very happily pull out my credit card for that one.

Having said that, where have these Nets been all season? You know it's bad for them when they hold their opponents scoreless for several minutes and go on a rally to pull within 23.

Mike

[chambers]

Knicks up by 24 points with 1 minute left in the 2nd.

[tazzmaniac]

It is because there are a bunch of people banking on the Nets picks being really good for our rebuild to be successful.  Without that happening, our future looks paved with mediocrity.

Massive cap flexibility, Coach Stevens and 2 more Nets picks after this one.  Not to mention that we can package our pick, the Dallas pick and maybe even the Minnesota picks together to move up for a second lotto pick.  I am not that worried if we end up drafting Brown, Poeltl or Bender.

Most teams will have cap flexibility.  There are going to be a lot of very well paid mediocre players after next free agency.  It is not that easy to combine picks to trade up into the lottery.  Ainge tried hard but couldn't get any trade done last draft. 

[esel1000]

These are the Nets as we know them

[mef730]

Meanwhile, Lopez has been in for 25 of the game's 28 minutes. Go Hollins, run up his minutes!

Mike

[Quetzalcoatl]

These are the Nets as we know them

When do you think they'll finally get to 50 points tonight?  3 minutes left in the 3rd?

I really hope they get demoralized soon.  They need a couple losses like this to really chip away at their confidence.  They can't hit the 3 to save their lives, so as long as they go down early, it's really hard for them to come back.  If they suddenly start having confidence issues, they will consistently go down early and it should just feed into itself.  They unfortunately have enough pride to rally after big losses, but if they can't do it, it could really cause a chain reaction. 

This is one of the more winnable away games they have and it's huge that they're blowing it, but I can't help but get greedy.  They play the Warriors again next, so there's a real chance that it happens.  Unfortunately, then it's Rockets/6ers, but if they lose those....

Also Porzingis for the 3.  Good god

[Big333223]

It is because there are a bunch of people banking on the Nets picks being really good for our rebuild to be successful.  Without that happening, our future looks paved with mediocrity.

Massive cap flexibility, Coach Stevens and 2 more Nets picks after this one.  Not to mention that we can package our pick, the Dallas pick and maybe even the Minnesota picks together to move up for a second lotto pick.  I am not that worried if we end up drafting Brown, Poeltl or Bender.

Most teams will have cap flexibility.  There are going to be a lot of very well paid mediocre players after next free agency.  It is not that easy to combine picks to trade up into the lottery.  Ainge tried hard but couldn't get any trade done last draft.

Ainge wasn't able to trade up this past year but there are a ton of examples of exactly that type of deal happening in the past. There's no reason to think he couldn't do it in a different draft when team's needs are different. We also don't have to move up in the draft because we could move the picks for current players.

The point is, the Celtics have picks, money, and young talent. There's a lot of reasons to think they'll be better than mediocre in the future.

[Vox_Populi]

Joe Johnson's first career ejection apparently. Will he get suspended? He hasn't been that good but his backups are even worse.

[mef730]

Joe Johnson's first career ejection apparently. Will he get suspended? He hasn't been that good but his backups are even worse.

I'd love it, but I don't even know if that Flagrant 2 will hold. I bet it gets reduced.

Mike