Rumor- C's dangling both 1st picks to move up

[Eddie20]

http://journaltimes.com/sports/basketball/bucks-beat-workouts-set-but-staff-isn-t/article_06d21a05-a7fb-5634-80fc-12fbf5684673.html

It’s hardly a secret a slew of teams, including several lottery ones, are exploring potential trades. One team that is making a concerted effort to move into the lottery, league sources claim, is Boston. The Celtics are dangling their two No. 1 picks: Nos. 16 and 18.

Obvious typo that should read "16 and 28"


Makes sense. We move up and get a better player, don't have to give the #28 a guaranteed contract, and create more roster room.

[footey]

Article would have more credence if they got the ## right.

[TA9]

Ainge is probably hoping that Stanley will fall to a late lottery pick. If he does a trade could very likely happen on draft day

[hpantazo]

I would be upset if they were not trying to use at least both picks to move up.

[Donoghus]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

[Endless Paradise]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

#16 and #19 plus a second rounder and taking on an unwanted contract was what it took to move up to #11 last year, so significantly less than that, I'd imagine.

Of course, the perceived depth of the two drafts might alter the worth of their respective picks.

[mahonedog88]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

[More Banners]

28 doesn't move us up much. 33 probably has more value than 28.

Personally, we don't have much room for rookies that probably won't play anyway. We could use to trade for a player if we can't move up much by swapping just picks.

[Rondo9]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

They needed to give up those assets anyway. There was no way Anige was going to draft 4 players.

[More Banners]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

They needed to give up those assets anyway. There was no way Anige was going to draft 4 players.

Do I remember Ainge saying that players aren't always tradable, but picks are?  And that was why he stockpiled so many?

We'll see...

[Evantime34]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

If we end up getting Aldridge or Love then the right decision was made. I'm not sure those guys give us as hard a look if we don't make the playoffs.

[heyvik]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

I said this 2 weeks ago...the C's didn't tank but Ainge, in hindsight, DID NOT want to make the playoffs for this very same reason. he didn't want to purposely lose games, but IMO he didn't want to go to the playoffs. He wanted to develop the Sully and KO.  Now Sully and KO, who didn't do much in the playoffs, basically the same value they would have had if they didn't make the playoff AND now Ainge has to sacrifice more assets because the C's aren't in the lottery. I'm sure #9 and #28 would certainly garner at least a few slots up to at least #6 without touching our current assets.

[PhoSita]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

#16 and #19 plus a second rounder and taking on an unwanted contract was what it took to move up to #11 last year, so significantly less than that, I'd imagine.

Of course, the perceived depth of the two drafts might alter the worth of their respective picks.

I think we can assume that #16 + #28 would have to be combined with one of the Celtics' young cheap role players in order to move up into the top 10.


The eagerness of the Celtics to move up really demonstrates the lack of belief in the group of guys they have now to become much more than what they are now.  The Celts want to do anything necessary to get some high level young talent.

[Endless Paradise]

I think we can assume that #16 + #28 would have to be combined with one of the Celtics' young cheap role players in order to move up into the top 10.

Almost certainly - either that or the Celtics would have to take on a bad contract.

[Donoghus]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

#16 and #19 plus a second rounder and taking on an unwanted contract was what it took to move up to #11 last year, so significantly less than that, I'd imagine.

Of course, the perceived depth of the two drafts might alter the worth of their respective picks.

I think we can assume that #16 + #28 would have to be combined with one of the Celtics' young cheap role players in order to move up into the top 10.


The eagerness of the Celtics to move up really demonstrates the lack of belief in the group of guys they have now to become much more than what they are now.  The Celts want to do anything necessary to get some high level young talent.

Key being "high level" because they sure have plenty of enough young talent on this roster already.  Emphasis more on young than talent.