Rumor- C's dangling both 1st picks to move up

[rickyfan3.0...]

Making the playoffs was the right choice. I imagine Lamarcus (or any other big FA) would have ZERO interest in coming to a team that couldn't make the Eastern Conference playoffs 2 years in a row.

Making it with that odd collection of players last year (and picking up IT) is going to show this team can contend in the East right away and will do wonders for recruiting.

[heyvik]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

The eagerness of the Celtics to move up really demonstrates the lack of belief in the group of guys they have now to become much more than what they are now.  The Celts want to do anything necessary to get some high level young talent.

agreed!!!

[hpantazo]

We've been accumulating assets for a reason, BUT, I believe Ainge would not just use them because he has to use them. If he is legitimately trying to move up, it means he has identified a player he sees as a key piece to the contender he is trying to build, and is worth cashing in some of these assets for.

[footey]

Making the playoffs was the right choice. I imagine Lamarcus (or any other big FA) would have ZERO interest in coming to a team that couldn't make the Eastern Conference playoffs 2 years in a row.

Making it with that odd collection of players last year (and picking up IT) is going to show this team can contend in the East right away and will do wonders for recruiting.

I don't think Aldridge would look at us any differently, whether we just missed the playoffs or barely got in.  He knows we are two great players (him being one) from competing with the likes of the Chosen One.

[Evantime34]

Making the playoffs was the right choice. I imagine Lamarcus (or any other big FA) would have ZERO interest in coming to a team that couldn't make the Eastern Conference playoffs 2 years in a row.

Making it with that odd collection of players last year (and picking up IT) is going to show this team can contend in the East right away and will do wonders for recruiting.

I don't think Aldridge would look at us any differently, whether we just missed the playoffs or barely got in.  He knows we are two great players (him being one) from competing with the likes of the Chosen One.

We got some good publicity in the first round with all those national tv games. The Knicks have as much cap room as we do, a high pick and already a star in place, yet he isn't rumored to have any interest in them. I think breaking through and making the playoffs had to have helped our chances with him.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

http://journaltimes.com/sports/basketball/bucks-beat-workouts-set-but-staff-isn-t/article_06d21a05-a7fb-5634-80fc-12fbf5684673.html

It’s hardly a secret a slew of teams, including several lottery ones, are exploring potential trades. One team that is making a concerted effort to move into the lottery, league sources claim, is Boston. The Celtics are dangling their two No. 1 picks: Nos. 16 and 18.

Obvious typo that should read "16 and 28"


Makes sense. We move up and get a better player, don't have to give the #28 a guaranteed contract, and create more roster room.

I'm annoyed that the writer wrote "two No. 1 picks." They're not No. 1 picks, they're first-round picks; there's a big difference.

[fairweatherfan]

The eagerness of the Celtics to move up really demonstrates the lack of belief in the group of guys they have now to become much more than what they are now.  The Celts want to do anything necessary to get some high level young talent.

I'd say it's more that we already have "depth" in the sense of having a lot of decent young players.  We don't need more of that kind of depth, and with a boatload of picks coming up, it makes sense to consolidate as much as we possibly can.  But it's not like we wouldn't be doing the same thing if we already had multiple stud prospects.

[LooseCannon]

How do you feel if Ainge is targeting a player he expects to be available in the 10-14 range?

[csfansince60s]

Realistically, what is the trade value of #16 & 28 combined?   A handful of draft slots?

A lot less than a #10/#11 and a 28.

Sorry for the curt answer and stating the obvious.

Just frustrated that assets we could have used elsewhere might be burnt (if we even have the opportunity) to move up to get someone Ainge is targeting.

[csfansince60s]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

TP for your honesty in changing your mind.

That's refreshing compared to all the rationalizations people are still holding onto, proffering and regurgitataing as to why it was better we made the playoffs than getting a 10/11 as opposed to a 16.

[BudweiserCeltic]

If this is true, it really just fuels the fire of people who didn't want to make the playoffs.  And now, I honestly am starting to agree.  And this is coming from someone who wanted to make the playoffs. 

But if you look now, the Celtics made the playoffs only to get swept (and in my opinion, there's nothing worse than being a playoff team that gets swept in the 1st round) and it cost them at least 6 spots in the draft this year.  Now Ainge has to give up more assets than he wanted in order to get into the top 10 for a draft that many teams feel is loaded.

You look at it now in hindsight, my mind has been changed.  I really wish we didn't make the playoffs.

If you wanted to make the playoffs vs. tanking, and didn't envision a decrease in assets going forward, then I don't know what you were analyzing.

There's no "in hindsight". This was the cost of going to the playoffs, always was.

I'm quite comfortable with my decision of wanting to go to the playoffs and it remains. Does it suck that we're not getting the lottery talent? Sure, but I still take going into the playoffs with a talented young team and a team who now has financial flexibility over tanking any day of the week.

From a purely roster building perspective, of course tanking is the "right" path to take. Not sure why this is a realization now. That we had an abundance of assets to use to improve the team even with making the playoffs is what made going into the playoffs something that this particular team could afford to do, even if they're still a bit far from our contending hopes.

We have too many first rounders anyways, we should consolidate when appropriate. Lesser first rounders than a tanking job would simply have made the consolidation a bit harder as well as trade targets.

But I'm comfortable with going to the playoffs, sadly whatever benefits we might have had in that run will be highly intangible for the most part, and more than probably not as valuable as a lottery pick, I still enjoyed going there even if we got swept. The way this team played this season, they deserved it and I was glad to see them play a bit more.

[krumeto]

I went to Detroit Bad Boys and offered James Young + 28 + 33 for 8. The counter-offers by Detroit fans I got were:

Young + 16 for 8
Sully + 16 for 8
Young + 16, 28 and 33 for 8 (they can dream:)
Crowder + 16 + future 2nd for 8

If that is what Detroit wants for the 8th pick (and the fans tend to overvalue) I am all aboard with this.

The Crowder one is not happening due to FA but the fans are somehow very high on him. The playoffs might have raised some value after all.

[Endless Paradise]

Detroit needs a reliable 3-and-D small forward (they were relying on Tayshaun Prince and Caron Butler, for goodness sakes) and Crowder has potential in that regard. Makes sense as to why they'd want him.

[YoungOne87]

if we would have "tanked" alll of our players would have lesser value..

[Celtics4ever]

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if we would have "tanked" alll of our players would have lesser value.

I think we the fans value them more than other GMs