Would you trade the 16 and 28 for Aaron Gordon?

[Tr1boy]

Magic GM Rob Hennigan says the club “intends” to bring back F Tobias Harris – a restricted free agent – “no matter what” the cost this summer. At $15 mill per year? Seeing is believing.

In addition the Magic are in line to draft SF Winslow or PF Porzingis. Or perhaps Johnson or WCS ,depending on how the lotto/draft shakes down. 

Gordon did not fit very well with the Magic last season plus are in line of a possible log jam in the pf/sf position. And he still has some more developing to do.

If they do bring back sf/pf Harris, draft one of the players above and are willing to take the 16 and 28 pick for Gordon, would you take the trade?

As some people here know, I'm a big fan of Gordon.  He is a mature player that is a really bad fit with an overall immature Magic team.   

Gordon adds the frontcourt explosiveness/above the rim play this team can use and would make Sullinger/KO or Zeller life easier on the defensive end.   

yay or nay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Fhin-1u3w

[Ilikesports17]

Magic GM Rob Hennigan says the club “intends” to bring back F Tobias Harris – a restricted free agent – “no matter what” the cost this summer. At $15 mill per year? Seeing is believing.

In addition the Magic are in line to draft SF Winslow or PF Porzingis. Or perhaps Johnson or WCS ,depending on how the lotto/draft shakes down. 

Gordon did not fit very well with the Magic last season plus are in line of a possible log jam in the pf/sf position. And he still has some more developing to do.

If they do bring back sf/pf Harris, draft one of the players above and are willing to take the 16 and 28 pick for Gordon, would you take the trade?

As some people here know, I'm a big fan of Gordon.  He is a mature player that is a really bad fit with an overall immature Magic team.   

Gordon adds the frontcourt explosiveness/above the rim play this team can use and would make Sullinger/KO or Zeller life easier on the defensive end.   

yay or nay?

I do it because I think he is a superior talent to the guys that we could get for 16 and 28. For this same reason Orlando does not do it.

I mean he was the 4th pick in the draft last year, hes younger than James Young and battled injuries all last year. Not even Orlando is dumb enough to give up on him this quickly.

[knuckleballer]

Magic GM Rob Hennigan says the club “intends” to bring back F Tobias Harris – a restricted free agent – “no matter what” the cost this summer. At $15 mill per year? Seeing is believing.

In addition the Magic are in line to draft SF Winslow or PF Porzingis. Or perhaps Johnson or WCS ,depending on how the lotto/draft shakes down. 

Gordon did not fit very well with the Magic last season plus are in line of a possible log jam in the pf/sf position. And he still has some more developing to do.

If they do bring back sf/pf Harris, draft one of the players above and are willing to take the 16 and 28 pick for Gordon, would you take the trade?

As some people here know, I'm a big fan of Gordon.  He is a mature player that is a really bad fit with an overall immature Magic team.   

Gordon adds the frontcourt explosiveness/above the rim play this team can use and would make Sullinger/KO or Zeller life easier on the defensive end.   

yay or nay?

Definately, but I don't think that's nearly enough for Gordon.  The kid is even younger than James Young.

[Ilikesports17]

Also I disagree that there would really be a log jam.

I mean Gordon, Harris, Vucevic are their only real talents at the 3-5 so having 4 talented players for 3 positions isnt enough to make Orlando look to move on from a top 5 draft pick who is 19 years old.

[Tr1boy]

The thing is we know Vucevic is their Center. Dedmon the backup.

Harris can play PF.  If they draft Winslow , they would want him to start at the SF spot

They can also draft Porzingiz and put Harris as the SF.   

Vucevic, then WCS as the PF and Harris as the SF.

You don't draft Aaron Gordon to come off the bench for the next 2 or 3 seasons.

This said, I agree it will prob take more than 16 and 28 for him.  I just think Gordon would really help add some key things missing for the team. CBS could do wonders to accelerate his development. Gordon also wanted to be drafted and play for the Celtics pre draft last season

[Tr1boy]

What about 16, 28, James Young and a future 76ers 2nd for Gordon. Would the Magic bite?

Magic can use more backcourt depth

[Who]

Yes, I would do that trade for Aaron Gordon.

[Rondo9]

Are the Magic even willing to let him go?

[Ilikesports17]

Yes

Yes would the magic bite or yes we should do it.

I still don't think the orlando magic are going to move a top 5 pick because he might have to come off the bench. There's still plenty of minutes to go around in Orlando for whoever they draft along with Harris and Gordon. If gordan and this years pick start playin at levels that demand 30+unites a night then you trade one. No need to do it at this point.

[Celtics18]

This is an amazing question.  Aaron Gordon was the fourth pick in what was supposed to be the best draft since the one that saw Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo and Chris Bosh enter the league.

Less than a year after he was drafted, still only nineteen years old, you actually think the Magic would give up on him for a 16th and a 28th pick?

To me the whole concept is slightly crazy.  It's like every kid in the draft, prior to playing a minute in the NBA is a potential superstar, then as soon as they aren't stars immediately in the big leagues, it's time to move on.

We all know it takes kids time to develop into pros.  Once they become pros, though, that patience gets tossed out right out the door.  Now it's "show me now!!"

[Tr1boy]

Are the Magic even willing to let him go?

Harris is ranked higher and if they get winslow , i could see them playing him alot of min at the sf spot

[indeedproceed]

I think there is a chance Orlando moves Gordon. Or S&T's Tobias. I don't really know what they're going to do with the pick, trading it makes some sense too.

I think that Orlando will probably be conservative though. They'll go BPA whomever they think that is (the Euro though makes a lot of sense, both in terms of filling a need and potentially being the BPA). They'll match the offer on Harris, and they'll try to figure out what to do with what they have.

Its not like they couldn't move anyone of their core. But I think they have been very particular about who they drafted or acquired, they're a team that puts a premium on culture, and part of a winning culture is roster consistency.

[Snakehead]

Harris will probably leave (overpaid by someone) and Gordon will stay.

I would do it if this was available but it won't be.

[crimson_stallion]

My god no...

I'm sure he's a nice fellow and all, but as a basketball player I just don't like this guy, and I really feel he has draft bust written all over him - Darius Miles 2.0 I think. 

To me, he's the perfect example of a guy who is all athleticism with so little skill to go with it.  During the draft everybody was going on about his versatility, his PG skills, his potential, etc.  I watched a lot of this guy, and I have no idea where people get that from.

He looks awkward when he's handling the ball, his passing are below par (0.8 assists per turnover), he doesn't have offensive range (27% 3PT) and has historically shown poor shooting form (<50% FT in college). 

To make matters worse, his defense (the one area where he was supposed to be a revelation) has sucked.  His 0.9 steals and 1 block per 36 minutes are nothing to write home about, nor has his Defensive Real Plus-Minus (-0.48) which is good for 67th among Power Forwards and 248th overall.  About 20 ranks worse than David Lee.

You can't even use the rookie excuse, because Marcus Smart's DRPM (+1.05) ranks him 6th at his position and 103rd among NBA players...and out of college Gordon was regarded as being just as good (if not better) defensively.

At this stage it seems like Gordon's only impressive skill/talent is his ability to jump high and dunk a lot.

Seems like a nice enough kid, but I'll pass.
Physically, his quickness/speed is IMHO vastly overrated, he's not especially long for his size (about average), he's too skinny for PF, and the list goes on.

Ultimately his only great strengths seem to be his vertical leaping ability and his perimeter defense, which is not a lot.

Again he seems like a nice enough kid, but no interest in this guy. At all.

[Tr1boy]

This is an amazing question.  Aaron Gordon was the fourth pick in what was supposed to be the best draft since the one that saw Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo and Chris Bosh enter the league.

Less than a year after he was drafted, still only nineteen years old, you actually think the Magic would give up on him for a 16th and a 28th pick?

To me the whole concept is slightly crazy.  It's like every kid in the draft, prior to playing a minute in the NBA is a potential superstar, then as soon as they aren't stars immediately in the big leagues, it's time to move on.

We all know it takes kids time to develop into pros.  Once they become pros, though, that patience gets tossed out right out the door.  Now it's "show me now!!"

Lets be honest , magic reached for Gordon at 4. I was reading they were nearly locked to draft Randle until they found out about his foot problem

Magic also were interested in Exum to pair with victorO but decided to grab Payton instead.

The Magic are still a mess and need to balance their lineup by adding more backcourt depth. But cant bypass on winslow, wcs, porzingis with their 1st pick

I dont think they take 16 and 28 but maybe add james young and who knows.  They could use more shooters in their lineup