Orlando obviously isn't doing that. The premise of this thread is absurd. Gordon was the youngest guy in the draft. Anyone saying he "didn't fit in" is probably just looking at stats and making assumptions. This is like another team saying, "would you trade two second rounders for James Young?"
Once again I feel folks are overestimating the value of a mid 1st. Lower them expectations.
And yes, Boston would obviously trade those two picks for Gordon. They'd obviously do it for wiggins, Jabari, noel, exum, embiid or randle as well. None of those trades seem plausible. You could possibly talk me into the plausibility of trading those two picks for Noah vonleh or nick stauskas... But that speaks more to my lack of respect for the Kings and Hornets management.
Welcome to the mind of LarBrd33, a peculiar place where Smart gets underrated for being a Celtic, but Gordon gets overrated for NOT being one.
Eddie... there's no way I'd trade Smart for #16 and #28. I rate him properly. I've repeatedly said he's our best asset.
You're about as likely to see Orlando trade Gordon for #16 and #28 as you are to see Boston trade Smart to Houston for #18 and #32
Next time someone makes one of these silly threads, they should imagine how furious they'd be if Boston dumped Marcus Smart for those two Houston picks (#18 and #32).
That's exactly the problem though. You consider Smart and Gordon on equal ground as far as prospects go, despite Gordon being a below average player last season.
You may have said Smart is our best asset, but that's a backhanded compliment since you've repeatedly criticized our overall assets and also compared Smart's ceiling to that of defensive role player.
I don't think they'll move Gordon..yet. However, when he sucks again next season and doesn't fit with their roster makeup they should be looking to deal him during mid-season. The same thing happened recently to Thomas Robinson, another undersized PF, with no perimeter game, who was drafted very high (#5 overall).
Gordon was drafted as a raw project. He was drafted for his potential. Same with Dante Exum. I don't think anyone expected those guys to light it up in year 1.
On the flip side, Marcus Smart was hailed as perhaps the 2nd most NBA-prospect in the draft. So yes, I think it's perfectly fine to compare their trade values. And we both know i'm not the only person who pegs Smart's ceiling as a solid defensive role player. National writers have said the same thing.
But Smart is still a good young player with some trade value. I've said it twice now, but he's a B- asset in a sea of C's and D's. There would be widespread outrage (me included) if we dumped him for Houston's #18 and #32 picks. I want people to understand that when they come up with these silly threads suggesting #16 for #28 for Gordon, it's on the same level of Boston trading Smart trading Smart to Houston for their crappy picks. If that sounds unappealing to you... then imagine how Orlando fans would feel if they gave up their 19 year old project (who they took #4) just 47 games into his basketball career. C'mon. Let's get real here. I don't buy the idea that Orlando looked at those 47 games and decided "BUST!!! BUST!!! PANIC!!!... QUICK, DUMP HIM FOR SOME CRAPPY #16 PICK!!" ... That's not happening.
Gordon showed alot of things last season. He just needs to become more consistent, find his spots. He is not as"raw" as you label him to be. Biyombo, Anthony Randolph are still raw. AG knows how to play. Good iq player. Good feel for the game.
Like I already stated the Magic team is a mess. You won't know if you play 5 min one night or 10 the other. Too many forwards riding the bench, lots of uncertainty
I mean, even if they are going to go the Chauncey Billups route and panic-trade their young player 51 games into his career... At least get more than some pick that is extremely likely to be a worse prospect.... at least get a 27 year old former all-star point guard coming off a season averaging 17.5 points, 7.1 assists, 2 steals, 43%/36%/77%.
An equivalent to trading Blllups for Kenny Anderson would be the Magic trading Gordon for someone like Ty Lawson.... not Gordon for #16.
I never really had a problem with the Billups trade. Sure, Billups ended up the better player, but Kenny was quite productive for us and helped us in a couple of playoff runs. I was much more upset with the Johnson trade, especially since the Suns reportedly would have taken Kedrick Brown.
As for Gordon, I tend to agree with you. Some players do get drafted too early, though, and it is quite evident early on that they aren't going to produce at a star level. A guy like Thomas Robinson was proposed a bust before he was even really given a chance. I think people may think that Gordon is already thought of as not being that good...but I think his value is much higher than we perceive.
Yeah... Robinson was also like 3 years older than Gordon when he was drafted. He played 3 years of College ball (was pretty weak his first two). I don't think anyone thought he had much potential.
Is there any alarm coming out of Orlando about Gordon? I though it was pretty understood he needed time. He should have a better season next year.
To be exact Robinson was 2 years older. Also, how many 3/4 tweeners, who can't shoot a lick, have thrived in the NBA in recent history? A very short list, which will only grow smaller with the priority placed on floor spacing and having a 4 who can stretch the floor.
Alarms out of Orlando? Maybe it has to do with Gordon showing no semblance of an offensive game, no touch around the basket, no real position, not a good fit with the weak shooting cornerstones of the franchise (Nik, Oladipo, and Payton), and a knack for dribbling the ball up the court, rather than giving it up and filling the lane. If you want to chalk it up as "hey, he's a project" that's ok. However, when a player can't get considerably more minutes than O'Quinn, Frye, and Dedmon on a bottom 5 team, then that's a red flag.
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