Would you trade the 16 and 28 for Aaron Gordon?

[jambr380]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

In this hypothetical scenario, I mentioned that Gordon's floor was Marion (which I do not believe in the slightest). I think Orlando would have to think twice before trading a guy whose absolute worst case scenario is being as good as Marion for a top pick in this draft.

[Bucketgetter]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

In this hypothetical scenario, I mentioned that Gordon's floor was Marion (which I do not believe in the slightest). I think Orlando would have to think twice before trading a guy whose absolute worst case scenario is being as good as Marion for a top pick in this draft.

I agree. If his floor is Marion, A 19 year old Shawn Marion would go 1st in this draft.

[Celtics18]

I just want to chime in on the whole Shawn Marion debate.  That guy was an absolute beast in his prime.  By far the most underrated player of his generation.

Steve Nash may have won two MVPs, but Shawn Marion was the MVP of those Suns teams. 

[Monkhouse]

Ummm, yes I would without any hesitation.

Despite his mediocre numbers, I still think Aaron Gordon is going to be a special player. He has the athleticism, and the competitiveness. I can see him and Smart being perfect teammates.

[LilRip]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

I don't know how those rookies-to-be's careers will end up, but Marion in his prime was an absolute beast. If Aaron Gordon's floor is Marion (which means there's a good bet he'll be better), then he's going to be a problem.

[Tr1boy]

Ummm, yes I would without any hesitation.

Despite his mediocre numbers, I still think Aaron Gordon is going to be a special player. He has the athleticism, and the competitiveness. I can see him and Smart being perfect teammates.

For me it would be a treat to watch these guys play on the same team. So much heart

This said we would still need to add another cold stone scorer to help IT.

[I told you so]

I don't think Orlando is ready to dump a #5 pick for a pair of non lottery picks after one year.  If the situations were reversed, would the Celtics make that deal?

[loco_91]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

In this hypothetical scenario, I mentioned that Gordon's floor was Marion (which I do not believe in the slightest). I think Orlando would have to think twice before trading a guy whose absolute worst case scenario is being as good as Marion for a top pick in this draft.

This argument is so dumb. "Would you trade Marcus Smart for #16 and #28 if his floor was Dwayne Wade?"

[colincb]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

I don't know how those rookies-to-be's careers will end up, but Marion in his prime was an absolute beast. If Aaron Gordon's floor is Marion (which means there's a good bet he'll be better), then he's going to be a problem.

BB-reference.com estimates Marion's HOF probability at 76% which was good enough for Dumars to get in.  Borderline HOFer vs untested rookie-to-be?  The allure of potential trumps performance? Anything is possible on CBlog.

There's no way that Marion is Gordon's floor either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

[Monkhouse]

I don't think Orlando is ready to dump a #5 pick for a pair of non lottery picks after one year.  If the situations were reversed, would the Celtics make that deal?

The Celtics should never ever trade away Smart, nor will the Magic either. The Magic are tinkering with the notion of being playoff bound, while ensuring their rookies get playing time to prove their worth. They brought in Payton. The results will show what happens when you put a passing point guard next to an athletic and dunking beast.

Kind of makes you wonder how a Rondo and Deandre Jordan would've looked like...

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

I don't know how those rookies-to-be's careers will end up, but Marion in his prime was an absolute beast. If Aaron Gordon's floor is Marion (which means there's a good bet he'll be better), then he's going to be a problem.

BB-reference.com estimates Marion's HOF probability at 76% which was good enough for Dumars to get in.  Borderline HOFer vs untested rookie-to-be?  The allure of potential trumps performance? Anything is possible on CBlog.

There's no way that Marion is Gordon's floor either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

Honestly, I don't think we'll ever see another Shawn Marion. Guy was the ultimate glue guy on a contender, he averaged over 10.1 RPG during his stint with PHX, and was a defensive monster.

People sometimes refer to Marion as their ceiling for players like MKG, Gordon, Taylor, etc, but I find that very disrespectful to how much of an impact player Marion truly was.

I believe Marion deserved the MVP at least once, for being a key clog in their offense, and especially; their defense.

[LilRip]

No because I think he is going to be like shawn Marion rather than Blake griffin in his career
Plus there is some value at the end of the first round and mid first round

Also magic would not trade him for only 2 picks they would want a young player in return like Bradley or sully to go along with the picks

If you wouldnt take Shawn Marion for picks 16 and 28 I dont know what to say.

If he had played fantasy basketball anytime from 2000-08, he would know just how valuable Marion was. If that is Gordon's floor, the Magic wouldn't give him up for the #1 pick this year, nevermind 16 and 28.

Come on.  Towns is a blue chip prospect

I would not give up Towns, Winslow, Russell, Mudiay for Marion (even at his peak)

I don't know how those rookies-to-be's careers will end up, but Marion in his prime was an absolute beast. If Aaron Gordon's floor is Marion (which means there's a good bet he'll be better), then he's going to be a problem.

BB-reference.com estimates Marion's HOF probability at 76% which was good enough for Dumars to get in.  Borderline HOFer vs untested rookie-to-be?  The allure of potential trumps performance? Anything is possible on CBlog.

There's no way that Marion is Gordon's floor either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html

"he's going to be a problem" is a compliment.

anyway, admittedly, i haven't been following college hoops at all this year so I don't know a lick about these rookies-to-be. but for example, in this bizarro world where Aaron Gordon's floor is somehow Shawn Marion, and one of those rookies turns out to be the next Durant or Lebron or Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan? then I'll take one of those guys over Marion.

Agreed though that in reality, there's no way that Marion is Gordon's floor.