Lucky17's Yahoo! Points Hoops League: 2014 Offseason: Post Lottery

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I would also welcome any and all perspectives of my roster. I tend to over-value my guys, I get attached, watching and rooting for them. I am not afraid that what anyone here says will devalue one or more of my guys.

[Rondo2287]

On my way back from jersey on a train and just finished my first dogfish head 90 minute IPA.  Looking to make a deal before I reach south station

[LarBrd33]

Ryno and Wes are on the move. DDs organization would like to thank the two for their service.

What idiot would acquire a guy coming off a torn achilles?

Mkogav had Jrue Holiday's points average dropping from 35-38fp to 25fp based on him aggravating a stress reaction that he previously recovered from and continued to average 35-38fp.   

The re-aggravation was caused by overuse or this is just a reoccurring thing with him. Perhaps, it was caused by the screw that they removed. Regardless, like Durant who failed to return healthy from a fracture, I don't expect their teams to run either player out for a full 35min per for 82 games.  I expect NO to bring Jrue along slowly. He's basically a point per min player. I estimated that he'll only log 25mins per games next season for the full season. However, if NO plays him 30-35 mins per game, I would expect him to average 30-35ppg.

2. Had this be the first tSo I'd be curious what kind of dip in production mkogav expects from a guy coming off a torn Achilles.

He ave 28.2 last season. It normally take 6-9 months to be ready to play ball at full speed. He's already 3 months in. If he resigns with POR, I expect his production to drop a bit based on not being fully ready for the start of the season and having his minutes monitored. I would guess ~23ppg.

Mk

I'm still waiting for Drummond and Beal to re-aggravate their stress fractures. 

[yall hate]

I'd be happy for someone to tell me information about my mediocre team.


pg: Kyrie Irving
pg: George Hill
sg: Trevor Ariza
sg: Kawhi Leonard
sf:  Wes Matthews
sf: Luol Deng
pf: Nikola Mirotic
pf: John Henson
c: Ryan Anderson
c: Blake Griffin
Util: Serge Ibaka

BENCH

J.J. Hickson
Mo Williams
Tony Allen
Cole Aldrich
Iman Shumpert

[Rondo2287]

Ryno and Wes are on the move. DDs organization would like to thank the two for their service.

What idiot would acquire a guy coming off a torn achilles?

Mkogav had Jrue Holiday's points average dropping from 35-38fp to 25fp based on him aggravating a stress reaction that he previously recovered from and continued to average 35-38fp.   

The re-aggravation was caused by overuse or this is just a reoccurring thing with him. Perhaps, it was caused by the screw that they removed. Regardless, like Durant who failed to return healthy from a fracture, I don't expect their teams to run either player out for a full 35min per for 82 games.  I expect NO to bring Jrue along slowly. He's basically a point per min player. I estimated that he'll only log 25mins per games next season for the full season. However, if NO plays him 30-35 mins per game, I would expect him to average 30-35ppg.

2. Had this be the first tSo I'd be curious what kind of dip in production mkogav expects from a guy coming off a torn Achilles.

He ave 28.2 last season. It normally take 6-9 months to be ready to play ball at full speed. He's already 3 months in. If he resigns with POR, I expect his production to drop a bit based on not being fully ready for the start of the season and having his minutes monitored. I would guess ~23ppg.

Mk

I'm still waiting for Drummond and Beal to re-aggravate their stress fractures.

Beam says pound sand

[LarBrd33]

How do you know his name is Christian?

Let's bring this back to FBB. I like a little drama, but the personal stuff is too much.

Since LB posted his roster, let's take a closer look.


Role players with potential both ways
8 - Bismack Biyombo

Bis can't score. By can't score, I mean hands of stone and the shooting touch of a catapult. He plays C and measure 6' 8" w/o shoes at the scouting combine. That said, if CP3 was his teams PG, he would be a smaller version of DeAndre Jordan b/c Bismack can rebound and block shots with the best. With a shooting PG like Kemba, he's relegated to garbage/injury time.

TP, it's comments like this that I read celticsblog for!

Careful how you talk about Boston's starting center next year.   We'll prob give Biz 8+ mil.  If you believe ssspence (longtime forum member), he's heard that Biz is Boston's target if we strike out on the bigger names.  Makes sense.  He has the capacity to be solid rim protector and supposedly Stevens thinks he can round out the rest of his game (biz is only 22 years old).   Only problem is, Biz turned heads during the last couple months of the season with his exceptional play and there's a good chance Charlotte matches any offer... they might look to move constantly injured Al Jefferson and pencil in Biz as their starting center... Zeller was playing most of his minutes at PF.

If that is the Celtics starting center next season, I'm also going to be like this:




I would love to see them sign or trade for Hibbert. CBS would do wonders with him, and he is actually a center with legit size, and he is very, very available right now.

I'd actually love if Boston brought in Biyombo.  He's been a binkie of mine for a while... hence why I traded for him.   Crazy length and athleticism.   His defensive rating would have been top 10 with qualified minutes.   He'd actually be a great fit for what we need.  Averages something like 12 rebounds and 3 blocks per 36 minutes.  The offense is poor, but he gets a lot of hustle put-backs and dunks (hence the high shooting percentages).  He started 21 games last season and in 27mpg he averaged 7 points, 8.4 rebounds, 2 blocks with 55% shooting and a respectable 63% from the line.    We need a rim protector... Bis would be a good addition.  He's also 22 years old and really hadn't played ball at all until joining the league... He's like Ibaka-lite.

Well, except that is not true, he began playing basketball at the age of 9 like most american kids, and has been a pro basketball player since age 14, so he must be totally maxed out on potential by now:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/columns/story?page=Biyombo-110614

But according to your statement, he didn't start playing until he entered the NBA, which makes me wonder how he even got drafted:

He had a vague familiarity with the game that he played occasionally in recess using a kick-ball and a home-made basket hand-woven personally by him.  He was discovered by Kevin Bacon deep in the jungles of the Congo fighting evil grey gorillas alongside Dr Frank-N-Furter and didn't start playing organized basketball until he was 16 years old. 

[hpantazo]

On my way back from jersey on a train and just finished my first dogfish head 90 minute IPA.  Looking to make a deal before I reach south station

send me a 2nd rounder for Utah's 2016 2nd 

[hpantazo]

How do you know his name is Christian?

Let's bring this back to FBB. I like a little drama, but the personal stuff is too much.

Since LB posted his roster, let's take a closer look.


Role players with potential both ways
8 - Bismack Biyombo

Bis can't score. By can't score, I mean hands of stone and the shooting touch of a catapult. He plays C and measure 6' 8" w/o shoes at the scouting combine. That said, if CP3 was his teams PG, he would be a smaller version of DeAndre Jordan b/c Bismack can rebound and block shots with the best. With a shooting PG like Kemba, he's relegated to garbage/injury time.

TP, it's comments like this that I read celticsblog for!

Careful how you talk about Boston's starting center next year.   We'll prob give Biz 8+ mil.  If you believe ssspence (longtime forum member), he's heard that Biz is Boston's target if we strike out on the bigger names.  Makes sense.  He has the capacity to be solid rim protector and supposedly Stevens thinks he can round out the rest of his game (biz is only 22 years old).   Only problem is, Biz turned heads during the last couple months of the season with his exceptional play and there's a good chance Charlotte matches any offer... they might look to move constantly injured Al Jefferson and pencil in Biz as their starting center... Zeller was playing most of his minutes at PF.

If that is the Celtics starting center next season, I'm also going to be like this:




I would love to see them sign or trade for Hibbert. CBS would do wonders with him, and he is actually a center with legit size, and he is very, very available right now.

I'd actually love if Boston brought in Biyombo.  He's been a binkie of mine for a while... hence why I traded for him.   Crazy length and athleticism.   His defensive rating would have been top 10 with qualified minutes.   He'd actually be a great fit for what we need.  Averages something like 12 rebounds and 3 blocks per 36 minutes.  The offense is poor, but he gets a lot of hustle put-backs and dunks (hence the high shooting percentages).  He started 21 games last season and in 27mpg he averaged 7 points, 8.4 rebounds, 2 blocks with 55% shooting and a respectable 63% from the line.    We need a rim protector... Bis would be a good addition.  He's also 22 years old and really hadn't played ball at all until joining the league... He's like Ibaka-lite.

Well, except that is not true, he began playing basketball at the age of 9 like most american kids, and has been a pro basketball player since age 14, so he must be totally maxed out on potential by now:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/columns/story?page=Biyombo-110614

But according to your statement, he didn't start playing until he entered the NBA, which makes me wonder how he even got drafted:

He had a vague familiarity with the game that he played occasionally in recess using a kick-ball and a home-made basket hand-woven personally by him.  He was discovered by Kevin Bacon deep in the jungles of the Congo fighting evil grey gorillas alongside Dr Frank-N-Furter and didn't start playing organized basketball until he was 16 years old.

again, NOT true. Read the ESPN article, it spells it out clearly. He said basketball was his life, he was playing since the age of 9, and he was a pro basketball player at the age of 14

His 'potential' must have maxed out long ago

[yall hate]

He had a vague familiarity with the game that he played occasionally in recess using a kick-ball and a home-made basket hand-woven personally by him.  He was discovered by Kevin Bacon deep in the jungles of the Congo fighting evil grey gorillas alongside Dr Frank-N-Furter and didn't start playing organized basketball until he was 16 years old.

again, NOT true. Read the ESPN article, it spells it out clearly. He said basketball was his life, he was playing since the age of 9, and he was a pro basketball player at the age of 14

His 'potential' must have maxed out long ago

He's lucky those gorillas didn't eat his stone hands.

[mkogav]

Ryno and Wes are on the move. DDs organization would like to thank the two for their service.

What idiot would acquire a guy coming off a torn achilles?

Mkogav had Jrue Holiday's points average dropping from 35-38fp to 25fp based on him aggravating a stress reaction that he previously recovered from and continued to average 35-38fp.   

The re-aggravation was caused by overuse or this is just a reoccurring thing with him. Perhaps, it was caused by the screw that they removed. Regardless, like Durant who failed to return healthy from a fracture, I don't expect their teams to run either player out for a full 35min per for 82 games.  I expect NO to bring Jrue along slowly. He's basically a point per min player. I estimated that he'll only log 25mins per games next season for the full season. However, if NO plays him 30-35 mins per game, I would expect him to average 30-35ppg.

2. Had this be the first tSo I'd be curious what kind of dip in production mkogav expects from a guy coming off a torn Achilles.

He ave 28.2 last season. It normally take 6-9 months to be ready to play ball at full speed. He's already 3 months in. If he resigns with POR, I expect his production to drop a bit based on not being fully ready for the start of the season and having his minutes monitored. I would guess ~23ppg.

Mk

I'm still waiting for Drummond and Beal to re-aggravate their stress fractures.

Some GMs post personal attacks and you brush it off. I post that Jrue's ppg will drop b/c I expect NO to take a cautious approach with him and u lash out.

I guess I can understand that.

Mk

[LarBrd33]

Ryno and Wes are on the move. DDs organization would like to thank the two for their service.

What idiot would acquire a guy coming off a torn achilles?

Mkogav had Jrue Holiday's points average dropping from 35-38fp to 25fp based on him aggravating a stress reaction that he previously recovered from and continued to average 35-38fp.   

The re-aggravation was caused by overuse or this is just a reoccurring thing with him. Perhaps, it was caused by the screw that they removed. Regardless, like Durant who failed to return healthy from a fracture, I don't expect their teams to run either player out for a full 35min per for 82 games.  I expect NO to bring Jrue along slowly. He's basically a point per min player. I estimated that he'll only log 25mins per games next season for the full season. However, if NO plays him 30-35 mins per game, I would expect him to average 30-35ppg.

2. Had this be the first tSo I'd be curious what kind of dip in production mkogav expects from a guy coming off a torn Achilles.

He ave 28.2 last season. It normally take 6-9 months to be ready to play ball at full speed. He's already 3 months in. If he resigns with POR, I expect his production to drop a bit based on not being fully ready for the start of the season and having his minutes monitored. I would guess ~23ppg.

Mk

I'm still waiting for Drummond and Beal to re-aggravate their stress fractures.

Some GMs post personal attacks and you brush it off. I post that Jrue's ppg will drop b/c I expect NO to take a cautious approach with him and u lash out.

I guess I can understand that.

Mk

Wait, is Drummond on your team?  I didn't even realize that.  I picked Drummond and Beal completely at random as two guys living with the horror of previous stress fractures. 

[LarBrd33]

Bismack Biyombo... savior of the Boston Celtics and the Bellevue Leprechauns:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2487399-bismack-biyombo-is-the-most-underrated-free-agent-for-celtics-this-offseason

The Boston Celtics are approaching their most intriguing offseason in years. No clear path presents itself, and questions abound regarding how aggressive they?ll be in trying to construct a winner.

There?s plenty of options out there, but none more appealing than Charlotte Hornets backup center Bismack Biyombo. This is the prototypical player Boston should go hard after: a young (he?s 22 years old!), under-the-radar restricted free agent whose best days are in the future.

What more? Biyombo?s skill set is exactly what the Celtics need. He?s quietly one of the best shot-blockers in the league and could evolve into the defensive anchor they sorely crave. The only players who posted higher block percentages last season were Rudy Gobert, Hassan Whiteside and John Henson (with a minimum of 1,000 minutes), per Basketball-Reference.com.

According to Synergy, in a small sample size, Biyombo held opponents to just 0.55 points per possession in isolation situations. That placed him in the 95th percentile. His numbers when defending the post were less impressive but still sturdy (55th percentile). Last year, the Hornets allowed 98.7 points per 100 possessions with Biyombo on the floor and 102.0 when he sat?the difference between the second- and 12th-best defenses in the league.

Hornets head coach Steve Clifford praised Biyombo in January, speaking to ProBasketballTalk?s Dan Feldman: "He?s very bright. The reason why his plus-minus is so good is he does what we do. He knows what?s supposed to happen, and he actually helps other guys play, too."

The danger of restricted free agency is that it forces teams to overpay for the players they want, but there?s a strong chance that Charlotte passes if Boston general manager Danny Ainge slides in near a four-year, $40 million deal. Matching that number isn?t impossible, but it?s hard to see Charlotte doing so with a smile on its face, especially with Vonleh waiting in the wings.

The 6?9" Biyombo has physical characteristics that can?t be taught. His wingspan is a pterodactyl-like 7?6", and he?s the rare center who's quick enough to chase smaller ball-handlers on the perimeter. Rim protection will always be valuable in the NBA, but big guys who can't do much else on defense are severely less useful than those who switch on screens 30 feet from the basket and hedge pick-and-rolls with quick enough feet to recover back to the paint. It?s a bonus and adds to Biyombo?s value.

But he impacts the boards and was ninth in offensive rebounding percentage among players who logged at least 1,000 minutes last season. The Hornets grabbed just 20.3 percent of their own missed shots with Biyombo on the bench but 25.9 percent when he played. That first number is worse than the 30th-ranked Atlanta Hawks, but with Biyombo, they nearly ranked in the top 10.

4 years 40 mil for Biyombo... sign me up.

[Kane3387]

Bismack Biyombo... savior of the Boston Celtics and the Bellevue Leprechauns:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2487399-bismack-biyombo-is-the-most-underrated-free-agent-for-celtics-this-offseason

The Boston Celtics are approaching their most intriguing offseason in years. No clear path presents itself, and questions abound regarding how aggressive they?ll be in trying to construct a winner.

There?s plenty of options out there, but none more appealing than Charlotte Hornets backup center Bismack Biyombo. This is the prototypical player Boston should go hard after: a young (he?s 22 years old!), under-the-radar restricted free agent whose best days are in the future.

What more? Biyombo?s skill set is exactly what the Celtics need. He?s quietly one of the best shot-blockers in the league and could evolve into the defensive anchor they sorely crave. The only players who posted higher block percentages last season were Rudy Gobert, Hassan Whiteside and John Henson (with a minimum of 1,000 minutes), per Basketball-Reference.com.

According to Synergy, in a small sample size, Biyombo held opponents to just 0.55 points per possession in isolation situations. That placed him in the 95th percentile. His numbers when defending the post were less impressive but still sturdy (55th percentile). Last year, the Hornets allowed 98.7 points per 100 possessions with Biyombo on the floor and 102.0 when he sat?the difference between the second- and 12th-best defenses in the league.

Hornets head coach Steve Clifford praised Biyombo in January, speaking to ProBasketballTalk?s Dan Feldman: "He?s very bright. The reason why his plus-minus is so good is he does what we do. He knows what?s supposed to happen, and he actually helps other guys play, too."

The danger of restricted free agency is that it forces teams to overpay for the players they want, but there?s a strong chance that Charlotte passes if Boston general manager Danny Ainge slides in near a four-year, $40 million deal. Matching that number isn?t impossible, but it?s hard to see Charlotte doing so with a smile on its face, especially with Vonleh waiting in the wings.

The 6?9" Biyombo has physical characteristics that can?t be taught. His wingspan is a pterodactyl-like 7?6", and he?s the rare center who's quick enough to chase smaller ball-handlers on the perimeter. Rim protection will always be valuable in the NBA, but big guys who can't do much else on defense are severely less useful than those who switch on screens 30 feet from the basket and hedge pick-and-rolls with quick enough feet to recover back to the paint. It?s a bonus and adds to Biyombo?s value.

But he impacts the boards and was ninth in offensive rebounding percentage among players who logged at least 1,000 minutes last season. The Hornets grabbed just 20.3 percent of their own missed shots with Biyombo on the bench but 25.9 percent when he played. That first number is worse than the 30th-ranked Atlanta Hawks, but with Biyombo, they nearly ranked in the top 10.

4 years 40 mil for Biyombo... sign me up.

Man that be trash. 40 mill? Biyombo is way too one dimensional.

[LarBrd33]

Bismack Biyombo... savior of the Boston Celtics and the Bellevue Leprechauns:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2487399-bismack-biyombo-is-the-most-underrated-free-agent-for-celtics-this-offseason

The Boston Celtics are approaching their most intriguing offseason in years. No clear path presents itself, and questions abound regarding how aggressive they?ll be in trying to construct a winner.

There?s plenty of options out there, but none more appealing than Charlotte Hornets backup center Bismack Biyombo. This is the prototypical player Boston should go hard after: a young (he?s 22 years old!), under-the-radar restricted free agent whose best days are in the future.

What more? Biyombo?s skill set is exactly what the Celtics need. He?s quietly one of the best shot-blockers in the league and could evolve into the defensive anchor they sorely crave. The only players who posted higher block percentages last season were Rudy Gobert, Hassan Whiteside and John Henson (with a minimum of 1,000 minutes), per Basketball-Reference.com.

According to Synergy, in a small sample size, Biyombo held opponents to just 0.55 points per possession in isolation situations. That placed him in the 95th percentile. His numbers when defending the post were less impressive but still sturdy (55th percentile). Last year, the Hornets allowed 98.7 points per 100 possessions with Biyombo on the floor and 102.0 when he sat?the difference between the second- and 12th-best defenses in the league.

Hornets head coach Steve Clifford praised Biyombo in January, speaking to ProBasketballTalk?s Dan Feldman: "He?s very bright. The reason why his plus-minus is so good is he does what we do. He knows what?s supposed to happen, and he actually helps other guys play, too."

The danger of restricted free agency is that it forces teams to overpay for the players they want, but there?s a strong chance that Charlotte passes if Boston general manager Danny Ainge slides in near a four-year, $40 million deal. Matching that number isn?t impossible, but it?s hard to see Charlotte doing so with a smile on its face, especially with Vonleh waiting in the wings.

The 6?9" Biyombo has physical characteristics that can?t be taught. His wingspan is a pterodactyl-like 7?6", and he?s the rare center who's quick enough to chase smaller ball-handlers on the perimeter. Rim protection will always be valuable in the NBA, but big guys who can't do much else on defense are severely less useful than those who switch on screens 30 feet from the basket and hedge pick-and-rolls with quick enough feet to recover back to the paint. It?s a bonus and adds to Biyombo?s value.

But he impacts the boards and was ninth in offensive rebounding percentage among players who logged at least 1,000 minutes last season. The Hornets grabbed just 20.3 percent of their own missed shots with Biyombo on the bench but 25.9 percent when he played. That first number is worse than the 30th-ranked Atlanta Hawks, but with Biyombo, they nearly ranked in the top 10.

4 years 40 mil for Biyombo... sign me up.

Man that be trash. 40 mill? Biyombo is way too one dimensional.

Yeah, but where else are you getting a potential formidable defensive anchor who is 22 years old?  Would you rather give up Olynyk, #16 and #28 to trade up for a tiny shot at landing WCS in the top 10... or just keep the assets and sign Biyombo... who is only a year older than WCS.

[barefacedmonk]

Ryno and Wes are on the move. DDs organization would like to thank the two for their service.

What idiot would acquire a guy coming off a torn achilles?

You bought low on those two guys. I know it. You know it. You're allowed to gloat