Boston BKN Blockbuster deal in works

[rondohondo]

I hope picks in 2016 and 18 are unprotected ......

[Snakehead]

Woj says 3 picks are

2014,16,18

Two picks in 2014 (awesome)

Two picks in 2015 (clippers/us)

Two picks in 2016

Two picks in 2018

No-brainer.

Plus keep in mind some of these can be packaged to move up in 2014 hypothetically (or another year).

If this happens, I can easily see a Rondo trade and full on tank.

[jpurthe1]

They are going to s+t bogans , so he will be a expiring

Awesome !!!!!!!


3 draft picks,Shengallia and expirings , plus Evans cheap salary!

We're still taking on Wallace's salary.

but sending back terry right?

Yes.

So we have 2 picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018.

8 picks in the 1st round and 1 in 2017.

WOW.

Plus cap relief after 2016.

[The Playmaker]

2 1st round picks in a crazy good draft class next year

[bdm860]

If the deal requires a sign and trade for Bogans, does that mean deal can't become official until like the 2nd week of July when FA's can sign?

[aingeforthree]

So what's the actual deal? And if we're trading Terry/PP/KG, then great.

Once all is said and done, I'm going to be a little sad watching us suck. But please basketball Gods... give us Wiggins or Parker!

Pierce/KG/Terry

for

Evans/Humphries/Bogans/Wallace/Shengelia/Low level salary player

+ 3 first rounders...2014, 2016, 2018

[Roy H.]

If the deal requires a sign and trade for Bogans, does that mean deal can't become official until like the 2nd week of July when FA's can sign?

Yes.

[Casperian]

I am still in awe and disbelief that we could potentially get so much for these guys at this point in their careers.

[CelticSooner]

Now this is the kind of trade you make to rebuild the right way.

Gives Pierce and KG a nice landing spot as well. It's a win-win for all involved.

[RyNye]

I hate this trade because it sends PP and KG to a mediocre team that can't truly contend.

Brooklyn is awful. Paul is an upgrade on Gerald Wallace, and KG will help their defense, but they still have an offense that revolves around the over-rated Brook Lopez and Deron Williams. I just don't see that team getting out of the first round in the foreseeable future.

PP and KG deserve better

[oldmanspeaks]

I disagree with those who say the Celtics would be getting 3 bad picks. Assuming the picks are in 2013, 2015 and 2017 the last two picks could become gold. The Nets would be an OLD team but with very high salaries so it would be difficult for them stay at a high level for more than a year so 2015 might be a solid pick and 2017 has a high likelihood of being an extremely high pick. Add to the pot the LAC 2015 pick, you have the makings of great rebuild potential.

I'm with this.  I don't think they'll end up being 3 late first rounders.  Some people seem pretty high on the Nets long term future, I just don't see it.  To me this is a 1-2 year window for the Nets, and the second year is pretty iffy in my book.

Depending on what year the picks are, I could think at least one could actually be pretty good, and another one has a chance of being decent.

Do they Nets have only their firsts? Or have they traded some away and/or obtained others?
I know Atlanta has the right to swap with them in 2014 and 2015.  So only taking that into consideration:

Cant’ trade picks in successive future years (though this year doesn’t count since it’s a current pick).

So Nets can trade 2013, 2014, and 2016
Or Nets can trade 2013, 2015, 2017
Or Nets can trade 2014, 2016, 2018

I imagine the Nets are probably not trading picks further out than that.

2013 – Nets have #22 pick.
2014 – Atlanta has right to swap. 
2015 – Atlanta has right to swap.
2016 – Nets regular pick
2017 – Nets regular pick
2018 – Nets regular pick

2014 - Barring any unforeseen major injuries, Nets will probably be good (20-30 range), and Nets will be higher than Atlanta (unless they land Howard and/or Paul).  So pick will be late first round.  Eh, nothing special.

2015 – Is this veteran team flat like the 2013 Celtics?  Did Pierce re-sign with the Nets?  Did Garnett retire?  If everybody sticks around then Williams is 30, JJ is 33, Pierce is 37, Garnett is 38, Lopez is 26.  Despite not being that old in NBA years, Williams already looked like he was declining in 2013, how effective will he be in 2015?  He could be the next Baron Davis, Stephon Marbury, or Steve Francis?  Just look about when their careers nosedived.  JJ already looks like the 2012 version of Ray Allen, we know it doesn’t get better.  Lopez I always thought was kind of overrated (a good player, just not a cornerstone).  They’ll be like the 2013 Celtics, fighting for a low playoff seed, and to me that’s best case scenario!  Think if Pierce and Garnett don’t come back.  Atlanta might be worse, might be better (but likely not much better).  I’m not confident either Atlanta or the Nets will be that good.  Could end up being a mid-first rounder, this could be decent.

2016 – The rebuild starts? If everyone stuck around they’re 31 (DW), 34 (JJ), 38 (PP), 39 (KG), 27 (BL).  I think everyone but Lopez will be toast.  Won’t have much cap room until after the season.  Sure they can make trades, and completely overhaul their roster.  But I like my chances that the 2016 Nets won’t be good.

2017 – Too far out to really speculate.  Could be a lottery pick, or could be mid or late first round?  This team will likely need to rebuild at some point before this, and that usually takes a while.

So we can get 2013 (low), 2014 (low), 2016 (potential to be high).
Or 2013 (low), 2015 (possibly mid?), 2017 (potential to be high).

I really think this could be like when the Grizzlies traded a 1st round pick that ended up being #2 in 2003, for 34 year old Otis Thorpe in ’97.

It’s tough to really speculate, as anything could happen.  But I think 2015 could be a decent pick, and any picks after that could be really good.

Basically, I don’t think this will be 3 late first rounders as some are speculating.  Sure it’s a long way off, but this could be huge a few years down the road.

good further breakdown-TP

[Snakehead]

I am still in awe and disbelief that we managed to get so much for these guys at this point in their careers.

Nets pushing all in on a title pursuit.  Very all in.

[badshar]

People will laugh at Celtics next year, but will cry when we land the first pick and draft GOAT Wiggins.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Now this is the kind of trade you make to rebuild the right way.

Gives Pierce and KG a nice landing spot as well. It's a win-win for all involved.

BUT BUT I READ HERE THAT DA IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rondohondo]

I hate this trade because it sends PP and KG to a mediocre team that can't truly contend.

Brooklyn is awful. Paul is an upgrade on Gerald Wallace, and KG will help their defense, but they still have an offense that revolves around the over-rated Brook Lopez and Deron Williams. I just don't see that team getting out of the first round in the foreseeable future.

PP and KG deserve better

KG has made 300 mil +
PP 150 MIL+

Have won a ring with c's

I am sure they will get over it , we owe them nothing, if KG waives his no trade he obviously disagrees with you.