The Celtic-Clipper trade talk (merged) - Clippers back out.

[celticinorlando]

since when is Sullinger undersized at PF?

you think Sully is a starting PF in the NBA? He struggled throughout college playing guys his size or bigger

Yes I think he has the talent to be a starting level PF. I don't expect him to be an all-star, but definitely starting material (if his back holds up)

I also don't think he's undersized, since when is 6' 9" in shoes with his length, reach, and weight undersized? Teams typically don't have 7 footers at both big man slots, never have and never will.

i have season tickets to osu basketball. I have watched him struggle with guys his size. Don't get me wrong...i love sully...think he works hard and is a smart basketball player. I hope he works out and would go with him over bass everyday of the week. I just don't know how much they are going to get out of him.

hope the back issue is resolved for the better.

[albas89]

wow, and I thought the Lakers' future is dim... this feels like 1992 all over again!

[Evantime34]

If we can get:

DeAndre Jordan
A couple first round picks
Another asset - even if it's not Bledsoe

and then the trade somehow helps us clear enough cap space of allows us to make a trade than then leands us Josh Smith (Who wants to play in Boston)

Then we will basically be rebuilt - in a week

Jordan / Free agent / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger
Jeff Green / Caron Butler
Bradley / Lee
Rondo / TWill - another point...

* All we'd need is a real sharp shooter at the two - and a coupel vet scorers off the bench.

Honestly, how good do people think that lineup would be? I say 5 seed in the East tops.

[kgainez]

If we can get:

DeAndre Jordan
A couple first round picks
Another asset - even if it's not Bledsoe

and then the trade somehow helps us clear enough cap space of allows us to make a trade than then leands us Josh Smith (Who wants to play in Boston)

Then we will basically be rebuilt - in a week

Jordan / Free agent / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger
Jeff Green / Caron Butler
Bradley / Lee
Rondo / TWill - another point...

* All we'd need is a real sharp shooter at the two - and a coupel vet scorers off the bench.

i mean...i see ur point...

[celticinorlando]

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop 1m
C's-Clips still trying, but talks have slowed down at this hour. Teams going about draft business, but keeping phones handy.

[j804]

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop 1m
C's-Clips still trying, but talks have slowed down at this hour. Teams going about draft business, but keeping phones handy.

still NOTHING about what the parameters of the deal are ??

[AB_Celtic]

If we can get:

DeAndre Jordan
A couple first round picks
Another asset - even if it's not Bledsoe

and then the trade somehow helps us clear enough cap space of allows us to make a trade than then leands us Josh Smith (Who wants to play in Boston)

Then we will basically be rebuilt - in a week

Jordan / Free agent / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger
Jeff Green / Caron Butler
Bradley / Lee
Rondo / TWill - another point...

* All we'd need is a real sharp shooter at the two - and a coupel vet scorers off the bench.

Honestly, how good do people think that lineup would be? I say 5 seed in the East tops.

If we can even get there! Even with this deal we don't have the cap space to sign Josh Smith outright. We'd need to dump one or two of Lee, Bass, Terry.

[LooseCannon]

If we're not getting Bledsoe what's the point then?

The point would be more flexibility.  It sounds like you can only trade Garnett to the Clippers.  The Clippers aren't going to give back pieces that make the Celtics better.   You can trade the players you get back for Garnett to teams that are not the Clippers.

[PhoSita]

Even if you think this deal is crap, you have to agree -- the biggest disaster at this point would be if the two sides walk away permanently.

Then the Celtics are basically left fumbling for some other option.

No way Doc Rivers comes back to coach this team, or that KG and Pierce are back next season. 

This deal is now the best chance the Celtics have of getting anything in return for these guys.  If it falls apart, we could see everybody go their separate ways, leaving the Celtics holding nothing but what they have right now (which is to say, a lot of junk).

[celticinorlando]

If we can get:

DeAndre Jordan
A couple first round picks
Another asset - even if it's not Bledsoe

and then the trade somehow helps us clear enough cap space of allows us to make a trade than then leands us Josh Smith (Who wants to play in Boston)

Then we will basically be rebuilt - in a week

Jordan / Free agent / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger
Jeff Green / Caron Butler
Bradley / Lee
Rondo / TWill - another point...

* All we'd need is a real sharp shooter at the two - and a coupel vet scorers off the bench.

Honestly, how good do people think that lineup would be? I say 5 seed in the East tops.

i think the idea boston is going to get josh smith is a pipe dream. And i also think people are overvaluing what the can get on the market with what the clippers send over.

[WeMadeIt17]

Ugh really now the talks are slowing down. This thing needs to happen already. I was calm but i was hoping because something would break soon.

[celticinorlando]

Even if you think this deal is crap, you have to agree -- the biggest disaster at this point would be if the two sides walk away permanently.

Then the Celtics are basically left fumbling for some other option.

No way Doc Rivers comes back to coach this team, or that KG and Pierce are back next season. 

This deal is now the best chance the Celtics have of getting anything in return for these guys.  If it falls apart, we could see everybody go their separate ways, leaving the Celtics holding nothing but what they have right now (which is to say, a lot of junk).

honestly..i prefer that...at least they would have a chance to get a dynamic young player in the lottery.

I don't want to watch a team struggle to be the 8 seed and get swept by miami over and over again.

[celticinorlando]

Just like I thought...deal is just jordan and picks...maybe one pick and a low one:

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1m
Details emerge on trade talks for KG (and whether he's in it or just cut loose, Doc): #Clippers offer DeAndre + No. 1. #Celtics want 2 1s.
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[Evantime34]

Just like I thought:

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1m
Details emerge on trade talks for KG (and whether he's in it or just cut loose, Doc): #Clippers offer DeAndre + No. 1. #Celtics want 2 1s.
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Not happy with this, we either need to get Bledsoe or unload some long term contracts for Butler. If we get neither this will be a loss.

Since they apparently have all the leverage, I doubt we get either now.

[SHAQATTACK]

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop 1m
C's-Clips still trying, but talks have slowed down at this hour. Teams going about draft business, but keeping phones handy.

still NOTHING about what the parameters of the deal are ??

yeah....

we close our eyes and bend over