Right, but all things on the field being equal you'd sign Tebow over Vick or Cutler for the jersey sales and PR, right?
The fact that people who get paid to evaluate football talent seem to have reached a conclusion on his ability is telling. At least to me.
The same people that picked JaMarcus Russell #1 and Ryan Leaf #2 and didn't like Flutie? And passed over Tom Brady? Yup. Same people
I'm not sure I can ignore the fact that you're talking about practice the draft, which is speculation based on performance at the college level and predicting translatable skills, when I'm talking about evaluating the proven talents (or lack thereof) of a player who has played professionally for a season and a half.
The proof is in the pudding. Tebow, thus far, seems to fall fairly well into the mold of Christian Laettner--great in college, no big deal in the pros.
He's a winning QB in the pros. Not only is he a winning QB but he can take over a losing team and take it to the playoffs. It would be like if Laettner had gone to the Wolves...they were losing...they finally let him play. He plays well and hits a bunch of buzzer beaters, has a very good first round....then people say "i don't know. He can't hit the three or free throws and once they started defending him a little tighter he lost. He probably shouldn't be in the league". Hey I guess he's a lost cause then
Except what if instead, for this analogy to actually be accurate, his teammates hit a bunch of buzzer beaters after he missed most of his shots in comical and laughable fashion.
Well is he the point guard and they were always missing before he started passing to them? Did they then get Chris Paul and did no better?
Your claim that they did no better with Peyton than with Tebow is inaccurate at best. The Broncos were much better.
Even if wins and losses is your only measure, 13-3 is better than 7-4.
Where are the post season results to show for it? Not to mention Tebow was a first year starter. Peyton is a HOFer. But Tebow's first year of starting was far more successful by any measure than Peyton's
I find it funny that you've praised Flutie in this thread and also often express the opinion that only playoff results really matter.
Flutie's playoff record is 0-2 and his playoff stats are putrid. I'd be willing to guess that you didn't even know you were contradicting yourself.
Peyton lost to the eventual Super Bowl champions in overtime. Tebow was embarassed in one of the worst playoff showings in a long time. That's how their playoff runs finished, by the way.
Right. The Hall of Famer lost at home and the rookie lost on the road. Right. And his loss wasn't as bad as most of Peyton's playoff trips to Foxboro
Peyton earned home field with a 13-3 record. Right.
hey Peyton was handed a playoff team by a first year starter and took it to 13-3. If you want to give Peyton a trophy for that go right ahead. I don't mind. It can go with all those other trophies he's been handed while Tom made him look junior varisty
I didn't know this turned into a Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning debate. They are both far better QBs than Tim Tebow.
Anyway, since you seem to think football is an individual sport and not a team sport, why hasn't Brady won a Super Bowl since 2004? By your ridiculous method of QB evaluation, Brady must've been awesome in 2001, strangely became a worse player in 2002, became great again in 2004, and worse since.