2013 Patriots Football

[Fafnir]

So if they miss one obvious holding call in the first quarter then they can't call a different obvious hold later in the game?

[nickagneta]

Just one of the dumbest rules I have ever heard of. Players blitzing and or stunting on other plays constantly push their own linemen into players to create space to get through the line of scrimmage. Its been happening in football since forever. Heck its something you are taught as a player in high school and college.

Now they want to change the rule to protect offensive linemen. Protect them from what? Having to make a block?

Just an asinine rule if you ask me.

That said, Brady's poor play and god awful accuracy throwing the ball and a lack of offensive balance throwing and running the ball cost the Pats this game.

[Rondo2287]

Just one of the dumbest rules I have ever heard of. Players blitzing and or stunting on other plays constantly push their own linemen into players to create space to get through the line of scrimmage. Its been happening in football since forever. Heck its something you are taught as a player in high school and college.

Now they want to change the rule to protect offensive linemen. Protect them from what? Having to make a block?

Just an asinine rule if you ask me.

That said, Brady's poor play and god awful accuracy throwing the ball and a lack of offensive balance throwing and running the ball cost the Pats this game.

I can understand if you make it so that you can't do this over the long snapper since he is now a defenseless player.  But making it so that it applys to all o-linemen is overboard in my opinion

[CelticG1]

People really can't admit that this was a ridiculous call?

There is plenty of calls that refs overlook throughout games. You can call holding whenever you want. Generally you try to avoid gift wrapping a game like that.

Do people really not agree that a defensive 3 second violation shouldn't be called in a tie bball game with 10 seconds left? Haven't seen that call made before and if it was it would be a joke. And people wouldn't be talking about the player not knowing the rule but about the ref putting on show which is what this guy did

[Eja117]

You're right, the outcome of a game should never hinge on questionable calls invoking suspicious rules.

If the result of this week's call had been to have to kick a field goal in a blizzard, go into OT, and then do it again I'd be more ok with it.

That field goal was exactly like every other in the history of high school, college, and pro football, with the exception that a horrific call was made at exactly the wrong time on a horrific rule.

The tuck rule was actually a real rule, and was actually called correctly.  Weird rule. Eveeennttuaallly they got rid of it I think.

[Fafnir]

I get if you think the rule is stupid. I don't see the point of it either, I doubt a ton of players got hurt via this tactic.

But why are they supposed to not call it? If you put in a rule about how you're not supposed to block FGs by "x" tactic. If you're not willing to call it during a game winning FG situation then you shouldn't have the rule at all.

This same thing has happened multiple times with the leaping rule when the NFL started enforcing that more strictly. (I can't recall whether it was a new rule or they just started calling it but its also cost teams games early on)

[BleedGreen1989]

Just one of the dumbest rules I have ever heard of. Players blitzing and or stunting on other plays constantly push their own linemen into players to create space to get through the line of scrimmage. Its been happening in football since forever. Heck its something you are taught as a player in high school and college.

Now they want to change the rule to protect offensive linemen. Protect them from what? Having to make a block?

Just an asinine rule if you ask me.

That said, Brady's poor play and god awful accuracy throwing the ball and a lack of offensive balance throwing and running the ball cost the Pats this game.

Man, you couldn't be more right. What is going on with Tom? He missed Dobson pretty badly on what would of been a huge play, yet the rookies take all the heat. He missed Gronk pretty bad down the seam on one pass too.

I don't ever remember him being this inaccurate. I mean, isn't that really his calling card?

[D.o.s.]

You're right, the outcome of a game should never hinge on questionable calls invoking suspicious rules.

If the result of this week's call had been to have to kick a field goal in a blizzard, go into OT, and then do it again I'd be more ok with it.

That field goal was exactly like every other in the history of high school, college, and pro football, with the exception that a horrific call was made at exactly the wrong time on a horrific rule.

The tuck rule was actually a real rule, and was actually called correctly.  Weird rule. Eveeennttuaallly they got rid of it I think.

This was actually a real rule, and was actually called correctly.

They did get rid of the tuck rule, it's just A)hilariously giffable, and B)a great example of a similar phenomenon--especially when an earlier poster had said "if they called this in an important game it would ruin football forever..."

[Rondo2287]

Ben Volin‏@BenVolin15m
But Chris Jones did push Will Svitek in the back on the #Saints 4th quarter FG last week pic.twitter.com/qwKAabyEvW

So theres a picture of jones doing it last week.  Belichick also said it wasnt jones' fault it was his and the coaching staffs for being wrong on the rule.

[Rondo2287]

Also, did anybody see this from yesterdays game?

http://deadspin.com/male-jets-fan-decks-female-fan-in-metlife-stadium-fight-1448796519?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[Eja117]

I get if you think the rule is stupid. I don't see the point of it either, I doubt a ton of players got hurt via this tactic.

But why are they supposed to not call it? If you put in a rule about how you're not supposed to block FGs by "x" tactic. If you're not willing to call it during a game winning FG situation then you shouldn't have the rule at all.

This same thing has happened multiple times with the leaping rule when the NFL started enforcing that more strictly. (I can't recall whether it was a new rule or they just started calling it but its also cost teams games early on)

The rule has been in there all year. That's the fist time it has been called. So not only were they not willing to call it in a game winning situation. They weren't willing to call it at all.  Now all of a sudden they do it in a crucial situation. Basically a good game dominated by the arbitrary introduction of a new rule that nobody likes.

[PhoSita]

It was technically the right call, but the wrong call to make it in that situation.

It didn't affect the outcome of the play.  The rule was put in place to help with player safety.  That's fine and good, but the right time to call that penalty for the very first time is IN THE PRESEASON.  Not when the call will decide the outcome of the game.

[D.o.s.]

I get if you think the rule is stupid. I don't see the point of it either, I doubt a ton of players got hurt via this tactic.

But why are they supposed to not call it? If you put in a rule about how you're not supposed to block FGs by "x" tactic. If you're not willing to call it during a game winning FG situation then you shouldn't have the rule at all.

This same thing has happened multiple times with the leaping rule when the NFL started enforcing that more strictly. (I can't recall whether it was a new rule or they just started calling it but its also cost teams games early on)

The rule has been in there all year. That's the fist time it has been called. So not only were they not willing to call it in a game winning situation. They weren't willing to call it at all.  Now all of a sudden they do it in a crucial situation. Basically a good game dominated by the arbitrary introduction of a new rule that nobody likes.

How do you feel about the NBA's new post-basket delay of game rules?

[Eja117]

You're right, the outcome of a game should never hinge on questionable calls invoking suspicious rules.

If the result of this week's call had been to have to kick a field goal in a blizzard, go into OT, and then do it again I'd be more ok with it.

That field goal was exactly like every other in the history of high school, college, and pro football, with the exception that a horrific call was made at exactly the wrong time on a horrific rule.

The tuck rule was actually a real rule, and was actually called correctly.  Weird rule. Eveeennttuaallly they got rid of it I think.

This was actually a real rule, and was actually called correctly.

They did get rid of the tuck rule, it's just A)hilariously giffable, and B)a great example of a similar phenomenon--especially when an earlier poster had said "if they called this in an important game it would ruin football forever..."

So Chris Jones just happened to not push on the other field goals, then suddenly did on this one? And all the other players on both sides too? And every player in every game?  Does the real rule in the rule book say "Refs shall not call this penalty at all during the season till they randomly do it in a crucial situation?"  Because that's what happened. Doesn't get called at all. Then gets called. Total BS. Brady actually did tuck it. That's why it was called the "tuck" rule. Nothing arbitrary about it. It's not like it happened 5 times that game, then suddenly they call it.

Just horrid officiating. This isn't the way people should learn about new rules. It makes me wonder if there's any other bizarre rules out there we don't know about that will be introduced in a crucial situation.

[Roy H.]

Also, did anybody see this from yesterdays game?

http://deadspin.com/male-jets-fan-decks-female-fan-in-metlife-stadium-fight-1448796519?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

That's not a particularly proud moment for either the Jets fan or the Pats' fans.