2012 - CB draft board "Let's get it on!"

[Rondo2287]

IP you are forgetting the price that Yoki paid for lowry in the first place


4) Bulls Send Kyrie Irving, 4.5, 5.20
Cavs Send: 2.1, 3.1. 5.1

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Sure along the road Irving might be top 5 PG, but Lowry  will not be that much far off.

Why give up that potential when you're building to the future?

I don't see a viable case to do so unless you're convinced that Irving "won't" get better.

No I admit I gave up potential. Potential.

Lowry is and will be a near all star level PG in the next 3 years, that where Kyrie turns superstar, I get that. The team got better defensively, Lowry and MKG will shut wings down.

I got a pick this round to add more solid depth to the team.

I understand the team is no longer a TOTF candidate, but as of right now, Kyrie and Lowry are not that far apart. Kyrie is a better scorer, Lowry better defender. The team is still a nice fit, complete with shooters, inside prescense and defense is even better.

[WeMadeIt17]

Yoki did you see your PM?? if so could you send me something back kind sir.

[Rondo2287]

Honestly, im not even mad, im just dissapointed

[indeedproceed]

IP you are forgetting the price that Yoki paid for lowry in the first place


4) Bulls Send Kyrie Irving, 4.5, 5.20
Cavs Send: 2.1, 3.1. 5.1

No, I'm not. The price was fair. He bought the next point guard superstar in the NBA. 

[WeMadeIt17]

Anybody looking for someone who can spread the floor and flat out score. Please send me a pm. thank you!

[jgod213]

Sure along the road Irving might be top 5 PG, but Lowry  will not be that much far off.

Why give up that potential when you're building to the future?

I don't see a viable case to do so unless you're convinced that Irving "won't" get better.

No I admit I gave up potential. Potential.

Lowry is and will be a near all star level PG in the next 3 years, that where Kyrie turns superstar, I get that. The team got better defensively, Lowry and MKG will shut wings down.

I got a pick this round to add more solid depth to the team.

I understand the team is no longer a TOTF candidate, but as of right now, Kyrie and Lowry are not that far apart. Kyrie is a better scorer, Lowry better defender. The team is still a nice fit, complete with shooters, inside prescense and defense is even better.

no it's still a TOTF candidate, the thing is you went from lock winner to probably not going to win it.

[Lucky17]

RIPRED, check PMs, please.

Pick will be made at 10:30 at the latest.

[Evantime34]

Wilson Chandler is on the block, pm me with offers.

[Roy H.]

Sure along the road Irving might be top 5 PG, but Lowry  will not be that much far off.

Why give up that potential when you're building to the future?

I don't see a viable case to do so unless you're convinced that Irving "won't" get better.

No I admit I gave up potential. Potential.

Lowry is and will be a near all star level PG in the next 3 years, that where Kyrie turns superstar, I get that. The team got better defensively, Lowry and MKG will shut wings down.

I got a pick this round to add more solid depth to the team.

I understand the team is no longer a TOTF candidate, but as of right now, Kyrie and Lowry are not that far apart. Kyrie is a better scorer, Lowry better defender. The team is still a nice fit, complete with shooters, inside prescense and defense is even better.

no it's still a TOTF candidate, the thing is you went from lock winner to probably not going to win it.

He's still got time.

[Kane3387]

Trade

Lowry, 6.21, 11.20, 13.20

for

Irving, 10.15, 11.1, 12.15

Terrible trade. I thought Lowry outplayed Kyrie last year but there is no way that is going to continue to happen going forward. Irving should surpass Lowry next season or least move past him by his third year.

The Cavs were a team built for the future. Not a win-now team. It's a terrible move to sacrifice Irving's potential (as a top five PG) for a guy like Kyle Lowry (a low level star who looks to be a third to fourth best player on a dominant team).

You don't sacrifice top tier talent for role players.

Yeah that's the biggest issue. I don't think Irving is all that much better than Lowry right now, but going forward?

^ I agree. What is the difference PRESENTLY between Kyrie and Lowry? Other then Lowry is a better defender. Now Kyrie goes from always having the ball in his hands to primarily playing off the ball. This honestly seems like a lateral move to me since this game is played in the short term.

[Kane3387]

trade

Boston get 8.19 and Miami get Anthony Randolph

Thanks wdleehi.

TP.

[Fafnir]

Sure along the road Irving might be top 5 PG, but Lowry  will not be that much far off.

Why give up that potential when you're building to the future?

I don't see a viable case to do so unless you're convinced that Irving "won't" get better.

No I admit I gave up potential. Potential.

Lowry is and will be a near all star level PG in the next 3 years, that where Kyrie turns superstar, I get that. The team got better defensively, Lowry and MKG will shut wings down.

I got a pick this round to add more solid depth to the team.

I understand the team is no longer a TOTF candidate, but as of right now, Kyrie and Lowry are not that far apart. Kyrie is a better scorer, Lowry better defender. The team is still a nice fit, complete with shooters, inside prescense and defense is even better.

So you want to be a team that's outside the playoffs and has a lesser future?

[Roy H.]

This honestly seems like a lateral move to me since this game is played in the short term.

All I can say is watch them both this year.  You're going to be surprised about how big the gap becomes, and very quickly.  Irving is a superstar. 

[Lucky17]

With the 6.2, Detroit selects Spencer Hawes.