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Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2012, 09:43:37 PM »

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Still a lot of misconceptions about how good Green is.

He was played out of position most of the time in OKC. He would have been a starter on 50% of teams in the NBA, but had a future Hall of Famer in Durant ahead of him at the 3.

If Paul Pierce was played mostly at the PF position for the first 5 years of his career, we probably would have thought he stunk too.

Green came to Boston last year in the worst of circumstances: right before a play-off run, with teammates who were reminded of their Perk-traumatic-stress-disorder every time they looked at him. Hard to get comfortable in that environment.

Now he knows everybody, and has a much greater comfort level with the team and his role on it.

Locking this guy up at $40 mil/4 years isn't a big stretch, and it pretty much assures the Celtics of a smooth transition during Pierce's decline and beyond.

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This deal will not happen.


Even proven starting SF that are not stars have trouble getting close to 10 million a season. 



Green is the furthest thing from a proven staring SF for everything you listed.


And what team pays 10 million a year to back up Pierce?

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2012, 09:45:51 PM »

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no way he gets 10 mil a year...and falk knows it..my guess is 7.5 or 8....don't mind the term...

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2012, 09:47:17 PM »

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Still a lot of misconceptions about how good Green is.

He was played out of position most of the time in OKC. He would have been a starter on 50% of teams in the NBA, but had a future Hall of Famer in Durant ahead of him at the 3.

If Paul Pierce was played mostly at the PF position for the first 5 years of his career, we probably would have thought he stunk too.

Green came to Boston last year in the worst of circumstances: right before a play-off run, with teammates who were reminded of their Perk-traumatic-stress-disorder every time they looked at him. Hard to get comfortable in that environment.

Now he knows everybody, and has a much greater comfort level with the team and his role on it.

Locking this guy up at $40 mil/4 years isn't a big stretch, and it pretty much assures the Celtics of a smooth transition during Pierce's decline and beyond.

Nothing but sunshine for the foreseeable future in Celticland.
 


This deal will not happen.


Even proven starting SF that are not stars have trouble getting close to 10 million a season. 

Green is the furthest thing from a proven staring SF for everything you listed.


And what team pays 10 million a year to back up Pierce?


We would be spending roughly 27 million just in one position. Major smh.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #93 on: July 05, 2012, 09:48:41 PM »

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no way he gets 10 mil a year...and falk knows it..my guess is 7.5 or 8....don't mind the term...

Even that seems to be too much. 6-7 million per year is about right.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #94 on: July 05, 2012, 09:54:02 PM »

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Still a lot of misconceptions about how good Green is.

He was played out of position most of the time in OKC. He would have been a starter on 50% of teams in the NBA, but had a future Hall of Famer in Durant ahead of him at the 3.

If Paul Pierce was played mostly at the PF position for the first 5 years of his career, we probably would have thought he stunk too.

Green came to Boston last year in the worst of circumstances: right before a play-off run, with teammates who were reminded of their Perk-traumatic-stress-disorder every time they looked at him. Hard to get comfortable in that environment.

Now he knows everybody, and has a much greater comfort level with the team and his role on it.

Locking this guy up at $40 mil/4 years isn't a big stretch, and it pretty much assures the Celtics of a smooth transition during Pierce's decline and beyond.

Nothing but sunshine for the foreseeable future in Celticland.
 


This deal will not happen.


Even proven starting SF that are not stars have trouble getting close to 10 million a season. 



Green is the furthest thing from a proven staring SF for everything you listed.


And what team pays 10 million a year to back up Pierce?

If you are a starter making 10+ per year, you have to have a couple of elite skills on your resume. Green doesn't do anything at an elite level. He does everything at an OK level. That to me means he's a bench player and should be paid as such.

Guys that are paid that kind of money and are just below all star level:

Josh Smith - elite athleticism, rebounding, defense.
Lamar Odom (pre-Dallas) - elite rebounding, and then elite handle and passing for a 6-10 player
Al Jefferson - elite rebounding and low post scoring
Paul Milsap - elite rebounding and scoring, lesser Al Jefferson
Deandre Jordan - elite althleticsm, rebounds, blocks, dunks
Stephen Jackson - elite scorer and defender
...and so on.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #95 on: July 05, 2012, 09:54:45 PM »

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if Green can prove

You said the magic words. Green may wind up an All-Star; he may wind up a solid No. 3 option on a title contender; he may wind up going into politics after his basketball career. The point is, he missed a whole season, and in his one half a season with Boston--in which he was admittedly thrown into the fire as part of a controversial trade--he often appeared lost and out of step. I like Jeff Green, and I want him on the Cs, but he hasn't earned a 4-year, $40 million contract.

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Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2012, 09:56:36 PM »

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This (if by some chance it was true) is at the level of the contracts Detroit gave out to Charlie V and Ben Gordon.

Yup

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2012, 10:10:17 PM »

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I'd do 7 per for 3 years. I think that's pretty fair, and I fully expect Green to have a great season next year.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2012, 10:17:54 PM »

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Still a lot of misconceptions about how good Green is.

He was played out of position most of the time in OKC. He would have been a starter on 50% of teams in the NBA, but had a future Hall of Famer in Durant ahead of him at the 3.

If Paul Pierce was played mostly at the PF position for the first 5 years of his career, we probably would have thought he stunk too.

Green came to Boston last year in the worst of circumstances: right before a play-off run, with teammates who were reminded of their Perk-traumatic-stress-disorder every time they looked at him. Hard to get comfortable in that environment.

Now he knows everybody, and has a much greater comfort level with the team and his role on it.

Locking this guy up at $40 mil/4 years isn't a big stretch, and it pretty much assures the Celtics of a smooth transition during Pierce's decline and beyond.

Nothing but sunshine for the foreseeable future in Celticland.
 
He's been in the league like 5 years and has proven nothing.  There is always some excuse why he hasn't maximized his talent.  He has not improved since his second year in the league.  That money would be very Ben Gordonish.  And Gordon was far more proven prior to signing the contract.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2012, 10:20:12 PM »

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love how everyone is bashing Green let's see if he plays super aggressive comin into da season like i think he's capable of doin he gon have a chip on his shoulder from havin da game almost taken away from him

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2012, 10:21:03 PM »

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this 4/40 talk is based on nothing, folks. not from green or his agent or celtics management or ownership. i think its safe to say green isn't getting that kind of deal, esp. coming off heart surgery. he was set to make $9m last year prior to the heart issue. he's not making MORE after. i'd leave this thread alone entirely, honestly. wait until we hear any info from sources re: the contract.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2012, 10:21:21 PM »

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He's worthy every [dang] bit of that money, too. Jeff Green is one of the most talented players that we have in the NBA, and his ceiling is absolutely skyhigh.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3209/jeff-green

Check his last nba season, the number of points he put up, but make sure to look at the average number of shots that he took. They are on the low side. If Green takes more shots, he'd be scoring close to 30 almost every game. He has that much ability.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2012, 10:22:08 PM »

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love how everyone is bashing Green let's see if he plays super aggressive comin into da season like i think he's capable of doin he gon have a chip on his shoulder from havin da game almost taken away from him


Not bashing Green.


Bashing the bad rumor with a ridiculous contract, yes.

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2012, 10:23:26 PM »

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love how everyone is bashing Green let's see if he plays super aggressive comin into da season like i think he's capable of doin he gon have a chip on his shoulder from havin da game almost taken away from him

Das dope what u be sayin I think he gon be a good playa 2 but not 4 da money

Re: Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)
« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2012, 10:25:41 PM »

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Jeff Green is one of the most talented players that we have in the NBA

Below average rebounder.
Below average passer.
Below average three-point shooter.
Below average defender.

Average scorer.
Average efficiency.

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If Green takes more shots, he'd be scoring close to 30 almost every game. He has that much ability.

Guys that score close to 30 points per game are Durant, Kobe, and Lebron.  If Green was capable of doing that, he'd do it.

Green has great length and very good athleticism.  He's got a nice post game.  He's shown some flashes as a defender.  Right now, though, he's very average.


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