Jeff Green to get 4-year 40 million deal (report)

[crownsy]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

[the_Bird]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I don't like Green at the PF, but it's probably the best, realistic option.  Really hoping that either Sully or JJJ does a Bradley and forces themselves into the rotation; Sully, in particular, seems to have the potential to add some rebounding and interior play to the team, which we are still very lacking in.  Let's hope he can develop into a Powe/Baby hybrid; bigger than Powe, but with his interior scoring and Baby's D.

[jdub1660]

Boo.

Too much money unless its stretched out and that includes bonus incentives

7, 9, 11, 13

[Fafnir]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

[wdleehi]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

Agreed.


Bass is the starter unless (or until) one of the young big men beat him out.

[Jon]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I agree with your last sentiment, but I'd question whether Green is not in fact part of our best lineup. Boston had had great success with the likes of Posey and Pietrus playing the 4. Green is more of a power forward than either of those two.  

Furthermore, he's arguably the most offensively complete player to compliment the Core Four in the Big Three Era. He is definitely a guy who they can go to when the shot clock is running down to create his own shot, something Bass cannot do.

Finally, Bass was known as a poor defender coming to Boston. Learning from and playing with KG likely contribute to the change. I think Green could also improve.

Regardless of how things play out, I suspect Green will get significant time at the 4 spot. Thetr's simply no other way to get him significant minutes, especially of Ray comes back (eradicating any chance that PP will ever swing down to the 2, even for a few minutes per game).

[the_Bird]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I don't know if Green's better than Bass.  I'm not a big Bass fan, so I think it's pretty close. 

Our opinions are pretty worthless, though.  If Danny's committing $10M/year to him, that tells you a lot about how Danny views Green.  He's looking at Green as being one of the key players for the team's ongoing rebuild, not a complementary depth player.   

[celticinorlando]

starting line up will be what it was last year....now until AB comes back, i expect PP to start at the 2 and green at the 3....Jet and pietrus backs them up

[Fafnir]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I agree with your last sentiment, but I'd question whether Green is not in fact part of our best lineup. Boston had had great success with the likes of Posey and Pietrus playing the 4. Green is more of a power forward than either of those two.  

Furthermore, he's arguably the most offensively complete player to compliment the Core Four in the Big Three Era. He is definitely a guy who they can go to when the shot clock is running down to create his own shot, something Bass cannot do.

Finally, Bass was known as a poor defender coming to Boston. Learning from and playing with KG likely contribute to the change. I think Green could also improve.

Regardless of how things play out, I suspect Green will get significant time at the 4 spot. Thetr's simply no other way to get him significant minutes, especially of Ray comes back (eradicating any chance that PP will ever swing down to the 2, even for a few minutes per game).

Since when has Green been an aggressive shot creator, especially playing out of position?

Bass has been viewed as a poor team defender in Orlando, but he's never been the disaster at PF on the glass and individually that Jeff Green was in OKC.

Green will likely get minutes at PF, the league is going smaller more and more. But he shouldn't start there.

[BudweiserCeltic]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I agree with your last sentiment, but I'd question whether Green is not in fact part of our best lineup. Boston had had great success with the likes of Posey and Pietrus playing the 4. Green is more of a power forward than either of those two. 

Furthermore, he's arguably the most offensively complete player to compliment the Core Four in the Big Three Era. He is definitely a guy who they can go to when the shot clock is running down to create his own shot, something Bass cannot do.

Finally, Bass was known as a poor defender coming to Boston. Learning from and playing with KG likely contribute to the change. I think Green could also improve.

Regardless of how things play out, I suspect Green will get significant time at the 4 spot. Thetr's simply no other way to get him significant minutes, especially of Ray comes back (eradicating any chance that PP will ever swing down to the 2, even for a few minutes per game).

Since when has Green been an aggressive shot creator, especially playing out of position?

Bass has been viewed as a poor team defender in Orlando, but he's never been the disaster at PF on the glass and individually that Jeff Green was in OKC.

Green will likely get minutes at PF, the league is going smaller more and more. But he shouldn't start there.

The problem with Green at the 4, is that he also played plenty with Krstic as his defensive anchor, an up and coming, but not there yet, Ibaka, and an undersized Collison.

I think with KG anchoring the defense, he'd be just a bit better, particularly with Rondo dishing, and Pierce drawing defenders, and KG spacing the floor, and X random dude who's going to shoot the ball well enough to be with our starters.

[Jon]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I agree with your last sentiment, but I'd question whether Green is not in fact part of our best lineup. Boston had had great success with the likes of Posey and Pietrus playing the 4. Green is more of a power forward than either of those two.  

Furthermore, he's arguably the most offensively complete player to compliment the Core Four in the Big Three Era. He is definitely a guy who they can go to when the shot clock is running down to create his own shot, something Bass cannot do.

Finally, Bass was known as a poor defender coming to Boston. Learning from and playing with KG likely contribute to the change. I think Green could also improve.

Regardless of how things play out, I suspect Green will get significant time at the 4 spot. Thetr's simply no other way to get him significant minutes, especially of Ray comes back (eradicating any chance that PP will ever swing down to the 2, even for a few minutes per game).

Since when has Green been an aggressive shot creator, especially playing out of position?

Bass has been viewed as a poor team defender in Orlando, but he's never been the disaster at PF on the glass and individually that Jeff Green was in OKC.

Green will likely get minutes at PF, the league is going smaller more and more. But he shouldn't start there.

Green should have a field day getting to the basket against bigger, slower PFs.  He'd run circles around the likes of Elton Brand and Carlos Boozer.  And while I'm certainly not suggesting he's Kevin Durant, he's certainly a better shot creator than pretty much anyone we've ever had to compliment our core over the past 5 years. 

The league is getting smaller as you said.  I'm not saying it will happen, and I'm not even saying it should happen (yet), but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Green start at the 4.  Ultimately, I don't think it will matter that much who starts and who comes off the bench.  I think that whole business is dramatically overrated.  It's really about how the coach runs his rotations throughout the game, not who starts the first 5-7 minutes of a game. 

[crownsy]

First of all, i hope the moneys wrong. I'd do like, 32 mill/4

second, if the money is right, then i have to believe your thinking Green starts games at the Powerforward spot then moves to SF when pierce goes to the bench and they rotate Bass in at the 4 right?

So essentially starters:

PG: rondo
SG: bradley
SF:pierce
PF:green
C: KG

then when pierce and KG go to the bench:

PG: rondo
SG: terry
SF: green
PF: bass
C: TBD



i gotta say...i don't hate that rotation...i don't love it, but i don't hate it.

Thoughts?

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

oh agreed, but if your really paying JG 10 mill a year, he's got to be getting starters minutes/ a starting role right?

Why pay him like that if your the Celtics if thats not your plan for him?

so i just don't see how else the accomplish that unless he's starting at the 4 and spelling pierce at the 3 to get bass in.

[Fan from VT]

Remmember when Denver got slammed for giving Al Harrington a 5 year 35 million dollar contract? Well now Boston is apparently giving MORE money for FEWER years of a guy who has proven NOTHING but being a LESS effective Al Harrington Clone...but missing a full year due to HEART PROBLEMS.

Unbelievable.

[Fafnir]

I hate it. If you're going to play a weak rebounding PF who is primarily a jump shooter as your starter you should use Bass.

He can at least defend the position adequetely, Jeff Green had several years and proved he cannot. Especially against opposing starting PFs.

You play your best lineups, not the the highest salaried players.

I agree with your last sentiment, but I'd question whether Green is not in fact part of our best lineup. Boston had had great success with the likes of Posey and Pietrus playing the 4. Green is more of a power forward than either of those two.  

Furthermore, he's arguably the most offensively complete player to compliment the Core Four in the Big Three Era. He is definitely a guy who they can go to when the shot clock is running down to create his own shot, something Bass cannot do.

Finally, Bass was known as a poor defender coming to Boston. Learning from and playing with KG likely contribute to the change. I think Green could also improve.

Regardless of how things play out, I suspect Green will get significant time at the 4 spot. Thetr's simply no other way to get him significant minutes, especially of Ray comes back (eradicating any chance that PP will ever swing down to the 2, even for a few minutes per game).

Since when has Green been an aggressive shot creator, especially playing out of position?

Bass has been viewed as a poor team defender in Orlando, but he's never been the disaster at PF on the glass and individually that Jeff Green was in OKC.

Green will likely get minutes at PF, the league is going smaller more and more. But he shouldn't start there.

Green should have a field day getting to the basket against bigger, slower PFs.  He'd run circles around the likes of Elton Brand and Carlos Boozer.  And while I'm certainly not suggesting he's Kevin Durant, he's certainly a better shot creator than pretty much anyone we've ever had to compliment our core over the past 5 years. 

The league is getting smaller as you said.  I'm not saying it will happen, and I'm not even saying it should happen (yet), but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Green start at the 4.  Ultimately, I don't think it will matter that much who starts and who comes off the bench.  I think that whole business is dramatically overrated.  It's really about how the coach runs his rotations throughout the game, not who starts the first 5-7 minutes of a game. 

Go look at his numbers, against Brand/Boozer/Randolph etc he didn't exactly take the league by storm.

[crownsy]

starting line up will be what it was last year....now until AB comes back, i expect PP to start at the 2 and green at the 3....Jet and pietrus backs them up

Paul will get slaughtered at the 2.

You think he's going to be able to chase SG's off screens at this point in his career?

He'll have the advantage on offense, but any fast, young athletic 2 is going to eat his lunch in transition and off screens.