NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC

[jyyzzoel]

Celtics also owns the Cavs 2nd rounder in 2013 (Harangody-Erden trade) unprotected.

And now the Bobcats 2nd rounder, both likely 31-35. Their own 2nd rounder and their number 21 and 22 this year, those are 5 picks the C's can trade this summer.

Yes, but we've got 48 hours to trade or use the two first rounders -- I'm hoping one of those gets traded for a future first.

what do you mean we have 48 hours?

The picks will be become players if we haven't traded them before we draft on Thursday night.

but danny waited for a while til he signed moore and johnson last year to see if you could sign and trade em to new orleans with chris paul. as far as i know, its only after the guy sign with us that they become untradeable until the trade deadline in feb i think... or am i wrong?

[Snakehead]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

[eugen]

Stupid trade with OKC was a tramendous proffesional mistake made by Cs General Manager. OKC got Perkins and Cs got a ill guy.

[bfrombleacher]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

[Snakehead]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

[bfrombleacher]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

[celtsfan84]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.  The chances of a successful lawsuit seem very slim with the information that is out there and I thhink we are all just making assumptions for the sake of trying to manufacture a story.

There will be no lawsuit.

[Snakehead]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.  The chances of a successful lawsuit seem very slim with the information that is out there and I thhink we are all just making assumptions for the sake of trying to manufacture a story.

There will be no lawsuit.

I don't think withholding medical information to a player for the benefit of trading him with value is "making a mountain out of a molehill".  It is a corrupt, ethically wrong thing to do.

I don't know the evidence, we'll have to see it, but if that's the story (and I'm going off what is reported around on this) then there is a case.

This isn't me coming from an angle of how we got screwed with Jeff Green or something.  That's just a very dangerous and wrong thing to do.

There should at least be an investigation into this.  Then we can see what evidence there is.

[celtsfan84]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.  The chances of a successful lawsuit seem very slim with the information that is out there and I thhink we are all just making assumptions for the sake of trying to manufacture a story.

There will be no lawsuit.

I don't think withholding medical information to a player for the benefit of trading him with value is "making a mountain out of a molehill".  It is a corrupt, ethically wrong thing to do.

I don't know the evidence, we'll have to see it, but if that's the story (and I'm going off what is reported around on this) then there is a case.

This isn't me coming from an angle of how we got screwed with Jeff Green or something.  That's just a very dangerous and wrong thing to do.

There should at least be an investigation into this.  Then we can see what evidence there is.

But that is just you making an assumption.  It is far more likely that they saw something that is usually symptomatic of nothing, assumed it was nothing, and traded him without mentioning it to the Celtics.

This type of thing has happened many times before (Cuttino Mobley, Jerome Harrison are examples) and there has been no lawsuit.

If it was an obvious red flag, OKC wouldn't have dealt him knowing that Boston would give him a physical.  They more likely found some irregularity that means nothing in 99.99% of occasions.

No doctor can test everyone for everything.  This aortic aneurysm is a rare ailment that is more likely seen in smokers aged 65-75 and often has no symptoms. OKC was not negligent in not testing for it.  The NBA itself has said OKC wasn't negligent.  Instead of being upset that OKC didn't catch a rare ailment, Jeff Green should be thrilled that the Celtics did.

[Snakehead]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.  The chances of a successful lawsuit seem very slim with the information that is out there and I thhink we are all just making assumptions for the sake of trying to manufacture a story.

There will be no lawsuit.

I don't think withholding medical information to a player for the benefit of trading him with value is "making a mountain out of a molehill".  It is a corrupt, ethically wrong thing to do.

I don't know the evidence, we'll have to see it, but if that's the story (and I'm going off what is reported around on this) then there is a case.

This isn't me coming from an angle of how we got screwed with Jeff Green or something.  That's just a very dangerous and wrong thing to do.

There should at least be an investigation into this.  Then we can see what evidence there is.

But that is just you making an assumption.  It is far more likely that they saw something that is usually symptomatic of nothing, assumed it was nothing, and traded him without mentioning it to the Celtics.

This type of thing has happened many times before (Cuttino Mobley, Jerome Harrison are examples) and there has been no lawsuit.

If it was an obvious red flag, OKC wouldn't have dealt him knowing that Boston would give him a physical.  They more likely found some irregularity that means nothing in 99.99% of occasions.

That's fair.  I just find it odd that they are giving us a 2nd round pick then... why is that happening if they did nothing wrong?

Nothing wrong with an investigation as well if there is nothing to hide.  The Players Associaton should owe Jeff Green one, he pays dues.

[celtsfan84]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Wouldn't the doctor be in trouble then? Not the league?

The doctor is an employee of the team.  I would find it extremely hard to believe that no one besides the doctor would know about it, and then it's a Thunder organization issue.  Why would the doctor not tell anyone?  And I would go after the Thunder organizaton.  You are talking about a life threatening medical issue here.

Good point. I don't think there has been any precedence of this...wonder what would happen... Real shady stuff going on right now.

I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.  The chances of a successful lawsuit seem very slim with the information that is out there and I thhink we are all just making assumptions for the sake of trying to manufacture a story.

There will be no lawsuit.

I don't think withholding medical information to a player for the benefit of trading him with value is "making a mountain out of a molehill".  It is a corrupt, ethically wrong thing to do.

I don't know the evidence, we'll have to see it, but if that's the story (and I'm going off what is reported around on this) then there is a case.

This isn't me coming from an angle of how we got screwed with Jeff Green or something.  That's just a very dangerous and wrong thing to do.

There should at least be an investigation into this.  Then we can see what evidence there is.

But that is just you making an assumption.  It is far more likely that they saw something that is usually symptomatic of nothing, assumed it was nothing, and traded him without mentioning it to the Celtics.

This type of thing has happened many times before (Cuttino Mobley, Jerome Harrison are examples) and there has been no lawsuit.

If it was an obvious red flag, OKC wouldn't have dealt him knowing that Boston would give him a physical.  They more likely found some irregularity that means nothing in 99.99% of occasions.

That's fair.  I just find it odd that they are giving us a 2nd round pick then... why is that happening if they did nothing wrong?

Nothing wrong with an investigation as well if there is nothing to hide.

It seems like the NBA and Boston's doctors did investigate.  The NBA would have a huge liability on their hands if they thought one of their teams was putting a player's life in jeopardy in a negligent fashion and did nothing other than strip a 2nd Round pick.  I think the investigation stops there.  The NBA has plenty to lose and nothing to gain from protecting the Thunder.

The 2nd Round pick is compensation for Boston's doctors catching something their doctor's didn't and for OKC's doctors not passing on information that was most likely meaningless but potentially meaningful.  Let's not act like they awarded us Durant or Westbrook.  It's a 2nd Round pick, which normally amounts to nothing.

My assumption is that all parties are glad this is over and have moved on. OKC is in the clear. Boston has an extra pick. Jeff Green is healthy and allowed to continue his career.

[BballTim]

That's fair.  I just find it odd that they are giving us a 2nd round pick then... why is that happening if they did nothing wrong?

  They might have unknowingly done something wrong if they withheld information that they deemed meaningless.

[Chris]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Well, who's to say Jeff Green didn't know about it?  If the cardiologists did not believe it was that serious (which is likely the case, since they cleared him to play), then it was in his best interest to keep his mouth shut.

[slamdunk]

Well it makes sense now why okc was so eager to trade Green and not Harden.

[j804]

Could Jeff Green sue OKC and the NBA over this?

Mr Hobbs?

What I'd look for here is the Players Assosciation to sue the Thunder.  Now that I'm hearing what about this doctor's witholding information thread in the story, how could there not be a case?

I expect to hear about this again.  If you're Jeff Green how are you not going to your Players Association rep about this?

Well, who's to say Jeff Green didn't know about it?  If the cardiologists did not believe it was that serious (which is likely the case, since they cleared him to play), then it was in his best interest to keep his mouth shut.

I was thinking the same thing wonder if Jeff knew about it