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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 12:48:26 PM »

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So we have 3 2nd rounders from other teams next year (Brooklyn, Minnesota, now OKC/Charlotte)???

I expect a trade by us involving these picks this year.

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 12:51:12 PM »

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So we have 3 2nd rounders from other teams next year (Brooklyn, Minnesota, now OKC/Charlotte)???

I expect a trade by us involving these picks this year.

I think the Nets pick is in 2014.


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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 12:52:43 PM »

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OK - still a good deal for us.  I would trade the Brooklyn pick ASAP before Howard gets traded there.

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2012, 12:55:15 PM »

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The NBA has granted Boston a 2013 second-round pick from Oklahoma City in a dispute over Jeff Green's medical condition, sources tell Y!

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Oklahoma City will send Boston a 2013 second-round pick that it owns from Charlotte, a source said.

Should be a top 35 pick

OKC giving up a 2nd round draft pick is a drop in the bucket considering they traded us a player with a condition in place of our former starting center :-[ :-X

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2012, 12:58:30 PM »

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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2012, 01:02:06 PM »

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So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2012, 01:10:37 PM »

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I think the 2 2013 2nd rounders could help us move up to get Rivers...just my thoughts but I expect tomorrow night to be wild.

Imagine if we could get Rivers and White?

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2012, 01:13:15 PM »

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So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 01:18:53 PM »

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So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode
Perkins would get a bid if he was amnestied.

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2012, 01:19:25 PM »

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So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode

Perk may very likely get amnestied, but no way in heck does he not get bid on during the waiver portion of the amnesty process.  I could easily see some team, including us, bidding to pay $3-4 mil per year for the contract.  He's overpaid with his current contract, but he's above vet min quality.

That said, you are correct.  If we get him for the vet min, I will explode.

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 01:49:36 PM »

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Found money, indeed. And the timing on the announcement couldn't be better (or coincidental).

But, it definitely puts a bit of tarnish on Sam Presti's "golden boy" image. If this is punitive, then what, exactly, did OKC do?
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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 01:50:15 PM »

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This is very confusing.

Why is OKC being forced to give us a pick?  On the surface, it would seem to imply OKC knew something.  Otherwise, how is trading a player with an undiscovered condition the fault of OKC?

If OKC did know something, how are they getting away with only having to give up a 2nd round pick?

My guess is OKC knew about the symptoms and just never acted on them.  Since OKC didn't have confirmed evidence of an actual heart condition, and the Celtics didn't exactly discover this right away either, this is why we are only getting a 2nd rounder.

Esentially, since the Celtics were never told about the symptoms and didn't discover them at first, they have plausible deniablity as to not acting sooner.  OKC on the other hand, failed to act on the discovery of the symptoms, thus the granting of a 2nd round pick to the C's.  The only part that I wonder about is, are more sanctions against OKC following?

If OKC did in fact know about the symptoms and fail to act, that is highly negligent.  I would hope, if true, the league would punish OKC further.  Maybe strip them of a future 1st and fine them.  Also, Green could very easily have a legitimate lawsuit against OKC.

This raises so many more questions.

Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 01:57:26 PM »

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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 02:17:45 PM »

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Did anyone even know this dispute was out there?

My completely in-expert guess is that Celtics medical staff was able to demonstrate that OKC was either hiding information or utterly incompetent.  They can't rule out incompetence so the punishment isn't as severe as it would be if there were a smoking gun.  That's my guess, anyways.
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Re: NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 02:23:28 PM »

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Did anyone even know this dispute was out there?

My completely in-expert guess is that Celtics medical staff was able to demonstrate that OKC was either hiding information or utterly incompetent.  They can't rule out incompetence so the punishment isn't as severe as it would be if there were a smoking gun.  That's my guess, anyways.

Here is the problem though...in either of those instances, we should be hearing about a massive lawsuit, not a compensatory draft pick.

Something doesn't add up. 

My theory is that this is the league making a pre-emptive strike to "punish" OKC, so when the lawsuit comes to the league, they can show that they punished the guilty team, and are not part of the problem.  Basically like the NFL did with "bountygate"